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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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Hey guys i was wondering how to adjust the rear camber on a gd3. i looks just like a straight axle. do you have to remove the hubs and install angled plates??? that the one way i can see it happening. please help??
 
Old Oct 18, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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washers.

there are not camber shims made for our cars like the scions.


i know felixy had something else like a hub
 
Old Oct 18, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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^^he did...
 
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An Orlando guy has the same thing Felix has. Its like $500 and special order.

It all depends on what you want to adjust it for. If youre trying to adjust the OEM camber to 0 dont do it. Theres a reason why Honda made the car with natural rear camber.

If you want the shims, Ingalls has them.
Scroll down to Fit and give them a call.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 12:33 PM
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no i dont want to adjust to 0 i want it more negative. thanks for all the help.
 
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no i dont want to adjust to 0 i want it more negative. thanks for all the help.

-5 in the rear
 
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-5 in the rear

i wish

So far I have only seen a -3 set-up available.

Garson or Dipark may make one for the Fit, but again expect to pay a little over $500
 
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Aeroover is ur answer -3
 
Old Oct 21, 2008 | 12:45 PM
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Is there a website for that???
 
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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Anyone find out if a US company makes these yet? Or anywhere I can buy them?

I wish I had a friend in Japan.
 
Old Dec 6, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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Anyone find out if a US company makes these yet? Or anywhere I can buy them?

I wish I had a friend in Japan.
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i haven't seen any yet. i wonder if the ones they make for the xb would work??
 
Old Dec 6, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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I heard they don't work.

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i haven't seen any yet. i wonder if the ones they make for the xb would work??
 
Old Dec 7, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Previc93
Hey guys i was wondering how to adjust the rear camber on a gd3. i looks just like a straight axle. do you have to remove the hubs and install angled plates??? that the one way i can see it happening. please help??


All you have to do is remove the 4 bolts that hold the hub to the axle plate and shim the bolts to get negative camber and change the toe as well. Be warned however, the shimming is very exacting and requires machine shop capabilities or lots of filing to get the correct shim thicknesses. And several muonts/dismounts to verify the alignment.
Its an all day job to get it right.
 
Old Dec 7, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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Washer's are not the option I would take into canyons, track or driving my family. It works, but I would rather do it the way it is supposed to be done.
Spare yourself machine shop route! You can get shims for under $9!
$500!!! You have to be brain dead to pay that, too!
Here is the place to get it from:

 
Old Dec 7, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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Washer's are not the option I would take into canyons, track or driving my family. It works, but I would rather do it the way it is supposed to be done.
Spare yourself machine shop route! You can get shims for under $9!
$500!!! You have to be brain dead to pay that, too!
Here is the place to get it from:

The tapered plate requires machining to correct that particular Fits backplate. They aren't all the same. And remaching. And ...
Shims are indeed far easier and less expensive but unless you have a lot of stainless washers 1" OD by 9/16" ID x ,010 you will do a lot of filing. A very small change in thickness of the washer stack makes a big difference in the alignment.Even then some filing or machining may be needed.
Out of curiosity why wouldn't you use washers? Their load capacity and adjustment is excellent. Remember you get little from the areas between the bolts. Interesting you don't like washers.
Its hard to tell what youe site offers.
 
Old Dec 8, 2008 | 12:28 AM
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Mahout, I do not like them as a recommendation to an average Joe who got a hold on to some tools and has no wrenching experience! They will loose fingertips if not entire fingers getting Dremel happy!
I worked on cars for living and I understand what you are talking about mahout. Your advices make sense to me and I understand how to go about it, but great majority of our fellow members have zero experience and if they do not attempt to do something themselves they will find somebody more than willing to take their cash and do everything they ask for regardless of safety or reliability. That is the part that worries me. I am sure you understand my angle now.
For that reason I do not recommend washers. To much guess work for average Joe. SPC shims are tabbed, numbered disc which with the help of their web site calculator and a printout from your alignment shop takes all guesswork out of the equation! No grinding, sanding, or multiple tries and trips to an alignment shop!
Link to Fit stuff on SPC web site:
Welcome to SPC Performance - Performance Suspension Tuning for Sport Compacts, Racing, Hod Rods, Muscle Cars and More!

SPC shim calculator:EZ SHIM Online Application - SPC Alignments

I do not recommend altering it for making insane angle to tuck in extra wide offsets. That will wear out wheel bearings in less time than it will take to destroy a tire. I also do not like loosing additional clamping grip from mated surfaces of spindle and a beam. I witnessed a guy shearing off bolts that held a spindle because he played with too many washers. We were in the canyon and by pure miracle he did not fly off!
Regardless of angle on the shim, when you get down to torquing bolts to specs, you are stretching bolt heads to get them flat to created angled surface by twisting them! Keep that in mind before you decide to do it.

I recommend shimming it only for fixing out of OEM specs alignments and only if they are way out of whack, period. Even then you really need to evaluate if it is worth the risk. New spindle is cheaper than human limbs or a life.

Just my $0.02.
 
Old Dec 8, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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ya id rather get the whole rear hub that felix has. i think the smins put more stress on the bolts. because they wont go in straight. especially cause i want -3 degrees. those shims dont go that high i think
 
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ok so im kinda lost after reading all this stuff lol i know alot about car i just got the ez shim rear camber kit what do i need to do to get thm to work so i can camber my rear rims?? has anyone used them before? becasue i really need to camber them to fit my bbs

i was gonna go the washer route but i know its very dangerous what hub does felix have?? ive asked him before but he just told me he used washers i need help in this camber and suspension is not really my strongest field of expertise
 
Old Dec 9, 2008 | 01:39 AM
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ok so im kinda lost after reading all this stuff lol i know alot about car i just got the ez shim rear camber kit what do i need to do to get thm to work so i can camber my rear rims?? has anyone used them before? becasue i really need to camber them to fit my bbs

i was gonna go the washer route but i know its very dangerous what hub does felix have?? ive asked him before but he just told me he used washers i need help in this camber and suspension is not really my strongest field of expertise
I am sorry man, but I have not used this stuff yet. I only know in principle how it works. Start with a alignment printout, download EZ Shim calculator and play with it. If you can't get the results you are looking for, call them up and ask them to help you. I have no doubt that with additional 1-1/2 degrees of negative camber you will be able to clear that pesky rear bumper screw. Again, your bearings and tires will suffer.
Nice wheels BTW! I considered getting VW BBS wheels from a Corrado and GTi, but could not find any. No doubt they would not be cheap either.

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^^Towelie..pm me. I'll explain it to ya. I have a good grasp on the Camber thing (math) and I bought the kit that Felixy had =)

Oh yeah I also have the SPC shims...after I saw them and held them in my hand i said "NO"
 



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