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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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Holy Horrible Tire Stores!!!!!

Ok, So I took the HFP wheels and Yoko tires to the local tire store to get them mounted and balanced. I'm not going to put them on the car just yet as the weather isn't acceptable enough for me, however I like having them ready to go and the wheels and tires were just taking up too much space.

So I threw them in the back of the truck, took them down,.........

**Jeopardy Theme**

and then threw them in the back of the truck and brought them home all mounted and pretty. I brought them into the house and put them in the basement so I could clean them up a little. They used, what perceive to be, pretty damn cheap sticky weights. I took a friend of mine down to show them off and on two of the wheels, the weights had damn near fallen off.

So here's my question, has anyone ever had this issue with sticky weights before? I'm assuming it's because the wheel was either cold when they were initially put on or it wasn't a clean surface. I pressed them back on and applied some pressure for a few minutes to each and that seemed to keep them on, but what about once they're on the car? Am I going to lose them after the first rain or the first carwash? The factory alloy's seem to have a different style of sticky weight that looks to be lower profile and made of metal. The ones I have are plastic. Blah. Never seen anything like them before.

You think I could get some different ones off of the web that would work better?
 
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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I'd go back there and get it rebalanced for free, you can't just stick some wheel weights in there.
 
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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whenever i get new wheels, i wipe down the inner rim with alcohol to
remove any oils so that the weights stick on well.

if you bought a wheelset from a store the very first thing you should
do is push down on the weights to make sure they are not loose.

if they were mounted in cold weather, use a heat gun to heat it up
nice and push them down.

once it's on there usually the weights will push itself into the inner
rim from centripetal force and mount itself, but ive seen weights fall off
until they were driven.
 
Old Jan 11, 2008 | 11:03 PM
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The weights they used are strange, never seen anything like them before. They're little plastic tubes filled with sand. They suck is basically what they do.

I'm going to go back and see if I can get the regular lead sticky weights. The ones they put on all fell off even after I reseated them. The material they're made of basically tries to straighten itself and pulls itself off the wheel. Seems like a really bonehead design to me.

If they don't have the other weights, I'll go somewhere else.
 
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 03:55 AM
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The weights they used are strange, never seen anything like them before. They're little plastic tubes filled with sand. They suck is basically what they do.
what the hell? can u post a pic please i wanna see what this thing looks like.
 
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 06:56 AM
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Sure. I'm at work now but when I get home I'll post some pictures of them. I planned on taking some anyways lol. I need to keep a couple, it's a good conversation piece.....and paperweight.
 
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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interested in seeing picts too...

sounds pretty bad...
 
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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Ok, here's the pictures of them....full of steel particles lol I'm going to call on Monday and see if I can get the lead sticky weights. These things suck. Here's the company that sells them. IMI - XACTBalance&reg
Sorry, I'm not convinced.


 

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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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weird i've never seen those before haha
 
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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Ok, after reading the site, I understand the concept, but I'm just not sold on them. Maybe it's because the concept of them is worthless if they're on the ground lol
 
Old Jan 12, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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WTF. lol! very poor design. be better off duct taping rocks for weight.
 
Old Jan 13, 2008 | 12:12 AM
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Those are pretty space age... Looks like they needed to tone down on the design and invest in better adhesive.

They actually look good. Id rather see those in the back of my wheels.
I use stickies on all my wheels. If I needed to on older wheels I would sand the area down to make sure they stuck well.
 
Old Jan 13, 2008 | 03:12 AM
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One of my friends is a Honda tech and lives out in NC. He said that Honda recommends that your Honda be road surface balanced. From what he told me, they use a tire balancing machine that simulates the wheel actually being on the road for a better balance. One of the weights should be on the inside of the wheel and one should be on the outside.

If you keep adding weight till the machine says "0", you're not doing it right. AHHHHHH why didn't anyone tell me this was going to be such a PITA lol
 
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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That machine is a Hunter Roadforce balancer. That is what we use for everything. We do use stick on weights for every wheel we balance. Occasionally you will loose a weight but not very often. I have never seen the weights in the picture either. If they came off I would take them back and have them redone.
 
Old Jan 17, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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I took them back and had the other sticky weights put on and had it done correctly. The guy who did them the second time basically told me he wasn't sure why they even use those weights. I wasn't the only one who came back with weightless wheels lol.

Thanks for the info Jim. I was told those Hunter machines are pretty sweet and offer a great balance. I need to check and see if any of the local Honda dealers have one. My buddy told me if you ask them about Hunter roadforce balancing and they don't know what you're talking about, you're better off to just hang up lol.
 
Old Jan 17, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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i ask 2 questions, actually...

if they use a TC3500 mounter or newer and GSP9700 roadforce or newer.
 
Old Jan 17, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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Mental note....I'll have to remember those when I call. Thanks for the info.

I just want to get a decent balance on a machine that isn't from the stone age.
 
Old Jan 19, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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Check out our web site under installation. We have a list of installers listed by zip code. They all sould have newer equipment.
 
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