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Old Dec 25, 2020 | 11:04 AM
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Was discontinuing the Fit a mistake?

I know it's a low-volume car and with gas so inexpensive people aren't buying small cars.
So Honda's discontinuing the Fit.
But many of its competitors are also being discontinued (Chevy Sonic, Toyota Yaris among them) so I wonder if they'd sell more Fits in 2021 if they kept it around.
 
Old Dec 25, 2020 | 05:24 PM
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It is only discontinued in the US. US consumers actively seek the worst vehicle they can find, so unless the new Fit is terrible it wouldn’t sell.
 
Old Dec 25, 2020 | 08:01 PM
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Honda doesn't want to sell more Fits, they want to sell more HR-V's where the volumes/margins/profits are greater. With demand for small cars collapsing, Honda had too many small car brands for the market in North America. Between the Civic, the Fit and the HR-V something had to give, and the Fit was the obvious choice. Even though I don't like what they did, from a business viewpoint it was the right decision.
 
Old Dec 25, 2020 | 08:16 PM
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Sure, but the next car up from Honda is $5000 more. Yaris buyers aren't going to pay that if they don't have to.
 
Old Dec 25, 2020 | 08:51 PM
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Sure, but the next car up from Honda is $5000 more. Yaris buyers aren't going to pay that if they don't have to.
Then they should keep their Yaris or buy a used car.

It is increasingly obvious any ICE personal vehicle is a bad way to spend any amount of money as daily transportation.
 
Old Dec 25, 2020 | 08:54 PM
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I meant someone who would buy a Yaris... but hasn't yet. They're not left with a lot of options in small cars.

I think what happens is, car companies independently decide to eliminate models and only find out later that their competition did the same thing.

But what's an ICE personal vehicle?
 
Old Dec 25, 2020 | 09:30 PM
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I meant someone who would buy a Yaris... but hasn't yet. They're not left with a lot of options in small cars.

I think what happens is, car companies independently decide to eliminate models and only find out later that their competition did the same thing.

But what's an ICE personal vehicle?
Internal Combustion Engine, sorry.

I’m of the mindset that buying a gas powered car as the shift to electric is rapidly happening, is a great way to buy something potentially valueless shortly thereafter. Especially if american cities follow the european lead and take measures to keep gas cars out of their city centers

buying a new car anytime is also a massive environmental negative
 
Old Dec 25, 2020 | 09:36 PM
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This is America. It'll be forever before you can't buy gas for a car.

They've been working on unleaded avgas (for piston engine airplanes) forever and it's still not done. Why? Because some old planes need leaded gas. Instead of just saying screw off, you need a new engine now for the good of the environment.

Until about a decade ago NYC still had schools heated by coal.
 
Old Dec 25, 2020 | 11:04 PM
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Just ignore Mike. He's obviously off his meds again.

(IB4 Mike calls someone a Nazi...)
 
Old Dec 26, 2020 | 12:24 AM
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It's because korea is making shitty, disposable sedans and gas is affordable. Why buy a small economy car when you can have an Accord-clone that'll break down as soon as your lease is up?
 
Old Dec 27, 2020 | 02:17 PM
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My Next Car.

After my 2015 EX is gone I'm buying a Prius.
 
Old Dec 27, 2020 | 02:57 PM
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Most of the taxis around here are Prius. That's why I would never buy one. Also as those taxis start getting dumped into the used market I would think that would depress the resale prices for anyone else owning one.
 
Old Dec 27, 2020 | 03:04 PM
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Used off-lease Nissan Leafs (Leaves?) Can be had super cheap. If I didn't need the range, I'd much rather go that route than a hybrid.
 
Old Dec 27, 2020 | 03:34 PM
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Prius Resale.

Originally Posted by woof
Most of the taxis around here are Prius. That's why I would never buy one. Also as those taxis start getting dumped into the used market I would think that would depress the resale prices for anyone else owning one.
Resale value doesn't concern me. I own cars until it's too much to fix or get wrecked. Besides there's a great indy Prius shop near me.
 
Old Jan 11, 2021 | 05:50 AM
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Honda Motor Co. is going the way of Sony.

No founder influence on the corporate level.

MBA's running things (very bad for customers)

I think Honda is in 5 place in car sales now, is this correct, and reliability is close to the bottom with the Germans.

Rick
 
Old Mar 22, 2021 | 10:07 AM
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I'm due to trade cars this year (I usually trade every six years give or take) and for the first time in my life, I honestly cant find a new car I have the slightest interest in. Unfortunately, after seven winters, my '15 Fit is starting to show signs of deterioration.
 
Old Jun 11, 2021 | 11:49 AM
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It's really sad that there are not enough people realizing that they do not need big cars, and this was not considered by fleets. For all those looking for greener vehicle ... even a smaller/efficient vehicle is a "greener" vehicle.

The HRV offers no significant gain except the height ... and it is not even that much. At least they should have made it plug-in hybrid.
 
Old Jun 12, 2021 | 11:41 PM
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Business wise and as much as I hate to admit, it made sense to pull the plug on the Fit for the US market. Much like we all know, there is am increasing trend of compact and larger SUVs being purchased here. For example and looking at it logistics wise, having to build and design the Fit for US and Canadian markets with its own front clip and rear bumpers to pass their crash safety then have noticeably different clips for other markets didn't make sense to me on paper.

With the HR-V/Vezel/XR-V, the body remained pretty much the same regardless of the market with the exception of various smaller trim pieces and engine configurations... Like the 1.5L I4T we didn't get in the US but Europe did. -.-

Also in my honest opinion.. I feel that the GK wasn't really allowed to thrive our market due to price point vs standard equipment. Looking within the Honda family alone, it wasn't too much of an unreasonable jump to a slightly larger and better equipped HR-V or a Civic which usually had better sales incentives and promos (especially the FK7 hatches which were ALL 1.5Ts) for a couple grand more over a period of X amount of years. Doing loose math from MSRPs, that's MAYBE a difference of 50 to 100 bucks a month with going for say a Fit Sport or EX compared to a HR-V LX or Sport or Civic Hatch LX or Sport over 4 or 5 years depending on interest and of course trim configuration.

I could ramble on BUT its been a long day and its late, I've lost my train of thought multiple times typing this. haha
 
Old Jun 23, 2021 | 08:42 AM
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Seems like Honda is trying to shift this market to the HRV
 
Old Jul 11, 2021 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by cyclist007
It's really sad that there are not enough people realizing that they do not need big cars, and this was not considered by fleets. For all those looking for greener vehicle ... even a smaller/efficient vehicle is a "greener" vehicle.

The HRV offers no significant gain except the height ... and it is not even that much. At least they should have made it plug-in hybrid.
I for one don't want all wheel drive, because it's costlier to service. I don't want more ride height either, because of reduced cornering ability.
 



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