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Old Jan 5, 2021 | 05:05 PM
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CVT Went at 104k Miles - No OEMs anymore

My CVT tranny on my 2015 completely went at 104k miles. The car is totally stock and I am an old fart not racing. In fact it just went while doing 20 mph. Pieces of metal came out all over the place when the dealer drained it. They also told me Honda makes no longer makes an OEM replacement so they have to source outside. I called Honda America and they basically said tough luck no goodwill support. I bought this car to be dependable and low ownership cost but this is what I get. Beware.
 
Old Jan 5, 2021 | 07:42 PM
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How could that be? They have three years worth of cars still under warranty.
 
Old Jan 5, 2021 | 08:20 PM
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CVT Trans.

From your description sounds like your trans is going to the junk yard. You might find a CVT Trans from a wrecked 2015. If not junk your Fit and get one with a manual trans.
 
Old Jan 7, 2021 | 12:03 AM
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Am I the only one thinking this sounds like the 'brake failure' thread?
 
Old Jan 7, 2021 | 01:25 PM
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Am I the only one thinking this sounds like the 'brake failure' thread?
Possibly! One interesting thing though is the transmission says "discontinued" when I look it up on parts sites. The manual is still available for the GK, GE, and even GD, but the auto's say disco'd.

I suspect that they are only available as rebuilds and maybe not even by Honda since I don't see that option.
 
Old Jan 7, 2021 | 05:05 PM
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Manual Transmission.

A manual transmission doesn't sound so bad right now.
 
Old Jan 7, 2021 | 08:05 PM
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That;s crazy! Perhaps it's time for a class action suit.
 
Old Jan 7, 2021 | 09:22 PM
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Pretty much 95% of fits were sold with the cvt. Sucks for the OP but let's be honest a few are gonna go bad premature.

We also have no idea how it was maintained. Was the cvt fluid changed and how often?
 
Old Jan 8, 2021 | 10:29 AM
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There is much more to this store than the OP is saying. CVT trans don't go bad for no reason at that low of mileage. Unless not taken care of or worked on improperly. Also CVT trans are still available at Honda new just that is a load of BS. You need to go see another dealer and get some real help elsewhere. Honda CVT's are not known for failure like the Toyota CVT's.
 
Old Jan 8, 2021 | 11:03 AM
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There is much more to this store than the OP is saying. CVT trans don't go bad for no reason at that low of mileage. Unless not taken care of or worked on improperly. Also CVT trans are still available at Honda new just that is a load of BS. You need to go see another dealer and get some real help elsewhere. Honda CVT's are not known for failure like the Toyota CVT's.
They are failing fairly regularly in the Civic and Accord. On both FB groups, there are daily reports of failures at low miles. Often within warranty period.

That said, the Fit makes half the torque and does not seem to be near as hard on the CVT. Reports of failure are much, much less common.
 
Old Jan 8, 2021 | 03:49 PM
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I looked up the CVT part# for 2015 Fits (20031-5T4-A01), and surprisingly the part is showing discontinued:
https://www.hondapartsnow.com/genuin...1-5t4-a01.html
 
Old Jan 8, 2021 | 04:30 PM
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Is it the same part number for later models? (and is it the same actual part?)
 
Old Jan 8, 2021 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jared592
I looked up the CVT part# for 2015 Fits (20031-5T4-A01), and surprisingly the part is showing discontinued:
https://www.hondapartsnow.com/genuin...1-5t4-a01.html
I did a quick check on that site specifying both a 2017 and 2018 LX Fit. That is/was the correct CVT transmission for a 2017 model but it is NOT the correct CVT for a 2018. So I guess there is another CVT transmission for 2018 and up Fits. They probably were fixing some issue(s) on the 2015-7 transmissions and the updated transmission will have a new part number. Change done during the makeover of the 2018 model year. Would the 2018 transmission fit in the 2017 Fit? Only Honda knows for sure.
 
Old Jan 8, 2021 | 11:35 PM
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What I hear is that the fluid should be changed, you shouldn't floor it, and your foot should be on the brake when shifting. Also, come to a full stop when backing up prior to shifting to drive.
 
Old Jan 8, 2021 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Chitown Fit
A manual transmission doesn't sound so bad right now.
I see no reason not to. My last 3 new cars were sticks, and I never wore out a clutch or needed trans fluid (except to change it).
 
Old Feb 2, 2021 | 04:07 PM
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There is much more to this store than the OP is saying. CVT trans don't go bad for no reason at that low of mileage. Unless not taken care of or worked on improperly. Also CVT trans are still available at Honda new just that is a load of BS. You need to go see another dealer and get some real help elsewhere. Honda CVT's are not known for failure like the Toyota CVT's.
There really is not much more to the story. Trans fluid was changed at 45K and 90k miles. All other service work done. It is in Phoenix so a lot of hot weather driving. The dealer sourced a used one and install for $2800. They requested some good will relief from Honda but they wouldn't do anything. Yes there probably should be some sort of class action if this shows up more and more. Many of the newer Fits aren't at 100k miles yet so maybe the $#@^ will hit the fan soon.
 
Old Feb 6, 2021 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Rex Maddox
My CVT tranny on my 2015 completely went at 104k miles. The car is totally stock and I am an old fart not racing. In fact it just went while doing 20 mph. Pieces of metal came out all over the place when the dealer drained it. They also told me Honda makes no longer makes an OEM replacement so they have to source outside. I called Honda America and they basically said tough luck no goodwill support. I bought this car to be dependable and low ownership cost but this is what I get. Beware.
Yikesssss.
 
Old Jul 31, 2021 | 03:15 AM
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The cvt fluid should be changed every 30k miles after the first.
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I doubt the majority of Fit's on the road (of the GK variety) have had even one fluid change.
Yet it doesn't seem like a common issue (yet).
 
Old Jul 31, 2021 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rex Maddox
. They requested some good will relief from Honda but they wouldn't do anything. Yes there probably should be some sort of class action if this shows up more and more. Many of the newer Fits aren't at 100k miles yet so maybe the $#@^ will hit the fan soon.
The Fit CVT has been extremely reliable. Any problems like yours have been rare. Your talk of class action is nonsense, not supported by anything. With 100K miles on the car I would not expect ANY manufacture to extend any financial goodwill so Honda's response is fully expected. I am disappointed that the CVT went at that mileage but on the other hand there are Fits with higher mileage than you still driving around with no such problem.
 
Old Aug 1, 2021 | 01:23 AM
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There really is not much more to the story. Trans fluid was changed at 45K and 90k miles. All other service work done. It is in Phoenix so a lot of hot weather driving. The dealer sourced a used one and install for $2800. They requested some good will relief from Honda but they wouldn't do anything. Yes there probably should be some sort of class action if this shows up more and more. Many of the newer Fits aren't at 100k miles yet so maybe the $#@^ will hit the fan soon.
Here is your problem:
After the first CVT fluid change, Honda recommends changes every 30k miles.
The recommended mileage for you would be 45k + 30k = 75k miles.
You delayed the follow up CVT fluid change by 15k miles, an extra 50% of miles over recommended interval.
This is, frankly, your neglect that failed your Honda, not the Honda product failing you.
 

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