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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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Hi dudes...

I just want to give my opinion. I think the CRX is an icon of the Honda history. Who did not want one of them? . My point is, I think the Honda Fit will be the next CRX in the history of Honda and it will be an Icon to the brand. A lot of k20 Fits are emerging from the underneaths and that is something that will atract the performance fans. What do you think? Do you believe the FIT will be as famous as the CRX? Let's the fun beggin
 

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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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I think the CR-X will be the next CR-X, but that's just me. lol

I think the CR-X is the most popular Honda in it's history. Granted the C100 Super Cub sold more (50 million worldwide), the Integra Type-R is still lauded as the best handling front-wheel drive machine ever and the NSX-R is still considered the pinnacle of Honda's simple, but effectively raucous, obsessive performance engineering (mesh shift boot reduces grams.........GRAMS...), but there's an appeal in the CR-X that's not in the Fit simply by nature of it's design. The car had it's faults, but it was quirky, fun to drive and excellent in value. The Fit, too is quirky, fun-to-drive and excellent in value, but it's still viewed as too "minivan-ish" by most Honda and non-Honda consumers who can't see beyond the exterior packaging and look into the brilliant and versatile interior design.

And for that reason alone, the Fit won't be the next CR-X. It's not that it can't be. But there are still a lot of people who wouldn't give it the time of day based on the way it looks. Shame too.
 
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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i think it would be the S2000. Fit is not that popular...yet.
 
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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I think the CR-X will be the next CR-X, but that's just me
Hahah +1

The GD3 may be an icon for Honda, NOT the 2009 next gen Fit. I think they killed the Fit name with that car to be honest. For some reason i have a growing dislike toward the 2009 Fit.

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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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IMO the days of the CRX are over. We will probably NEVER see another equivalent of the CRX again. Cars now are far too complex and complicated. It never stops. Heated seats, tri-zone a/c, weight sensing seats, auto dimming mirrors, backup sensors, CVT transmissions, sequential gearboxes, etc.etc.etc.

The crx was a shell of a car that had a massive engine bay (for the size of the car) and begged to have a h22/b16t swapped in to it, handled very well due to low wight and simplistic suspension that was mildly tweeked. The transmission was one of the most user unfriendly pieces that honda ever produced, but was strong and gave a good feel. There were rattles from the factory in the body panels, and the interior was drab and basic, but functional. -But the car worked!!! Very well!-

THOSE DAYS ARE OVER. consumers now will not tolerate a modern CRX.
 
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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The fit is a slow car, and without boost or a swap it's pretty gutless. Not all car enthusiasts want to have to swap or boost to get performance, and trying to get any sort of "all motor" performance out of the L15 is pretty useless at this point in time.

I don't think it will be an icon of the Honda brand. The GD is only out in north america for 2 years as well. K20 swaps might not even be possible in the GE's
 
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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The GD3 may be an icon for Honda, NOT the 2009 next gen Fit. I think they killed the Fit name with that car to be honest. For some reason i have a growing dislike toward the 2009 Fit.
agreed.
that neo-minivan is going to ruin the fit's name.
from what i've seen jdm, it doesn't look that great with mods.
not as great as our gd3's :3
 
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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the new cr-x will prolly be the cr-z:

 
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cavie187
IMO the days of the CRX are over. We will probably NEVER see another equivalent of the CRX again. Cars now are far too complex and complicated. It never stops. Heated seats, tri-zone a/c, weight sensing seats, auto dimming mirrors, backup sensors, CVT transmissions, sequential gearboxes, etc.etc.etc.

The crx was a shell of a car that had a massive engine bay (for the size of the car) and begged to have a h22/b16t swapped in to it, handled very well due to low wight and simplistic suspension that was mildly tweeked. The transmission was one of the most user unfriendly pieces that honda ever produced, but was strong and gave a good feel. There were rattles from the factory in the body panels, and the interior was drab and basic, but functional. -But the car worked!!! Very well!-

THOSE DAYS ARE OVER. consumers now will not tolerate a modern CRX.
While you have a point, I think if the right person were to propose the car to Honda, you might actually have a winner. Somebody who knew what the original car was about and came up with a smart plan to build a modern CR-X, with modern conveniences at a weight slightly lighter than the Fit (which is already lighter than a majority of its competition). By virtue of evolution, you'll never get a sub-2000lb entry-level Honda, which isn't like an Elise that could use pricey materials to achieve that goal, but I still nonetheless think it's possible.

The double wishbones were simple but not inexpensive when compared to struts. It's just struts haven't been done properly by Honda when compared to their double wishbones. *sigh*
 
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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I’m buying my fit because it reminds me of my old 87 CRX si. The Fit IS a spiritual successor to the CRX in almost every way (except the whole 4 seat thing). The CRX was never fast (even in its time). It was a lightweight well handling car for its day. The Fit is the same for the year 2008 (aka 2500 pounds is light now-a-days).
 
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Nerdsrock22
the new cr-x will prolly be the cr-z:


What about the Y!?
 
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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super-secret JDM only!!!1!!! ahve to enter secret code on GT5 to get!
 
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RDS
While you have a point, I think if the right person were to propose the car to Honda, you might actually have a winner. Somebody who knew what the original car was about and came up with a smart plan to build a modern CR-X, with modern conveniences at a weight slightly lighter than the Fit (which is already lighter than a majority of its competition). By virtue of evolution, you'll never get a sub-2000lb entry-level Honda, which isn't like an Elise that could use pricey materials to achieve that goal, but I still nonetheless think it's possible.
I agree, but I still think that though the process of modern translation there will be a big part of the (potential) car missing. It will not have the same feel. Just as the Fit does not have the same "part of the road" feel of the CRX. Technology is over-complicating everything to the point of the human missing out on the driving experience. Look at the majority of sports car enthusiasts... look at what they drive and note what makes their car different than that of a supercar. I think you will find that the more simplistic the better in most enthusiasts eyes -MAINLY because the feel is soooooooooooo much more direct and unmolested.


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The double wishbones were simple but not inexpensive when compared to struts. It's just struts haven't been done properly by Honda when compared to their double wishbones. *sigh*
The wishbones were a substitute to lots of r&d time. In honda's book, it was cheaper to try a new idea than to get the old one right. The old "Find something that works and apply it to make things better" approach.
 
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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I'm glad you've said all of this. I'm sure if Honda is reading any of that and were actually building a CR-X, all of these things will be taken into consideration.



I prefer Honda's "simpler is cheaper but also better" approach.
 
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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they really are building the CR-Z...its not really a fantasy anymore.

thats not saying itll be as good as the og crx.

but hey. there really is one coming.
 
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Nerdsrock22
they really are building the CR-Z...its not really a fantasy anymore.

thats not saying itll be as good as the og crx.

but hey. there really is one coming.
I wouldn't be so sure. It is going to drop at the auto show, that's not to say they are building it for sure (as a production model).
 
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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I wouldn't be so sure. It is going to drop at the auto show, that's not to say they are building it for sure (as a production model).
He said CR-Z, not CR-X. The CR-Z has been confirmed for production in both Europe and Japan, but not America. Honda showed it at the auto shows to gain interest, but I don't think they're sold entirely on the idea of a dedicated hybrid to replace the beloved gas-sipping CR-X. That car got 45-50mpg city and highway without the use of the more complicated, weight-adding IMA system. If anything, it'll come here as is, but won't be what everyone thinks it's supposed to look like. Which brings me to:

Originally Posted by Nerdsrock22
they really are building the CR-Z...its not really a fantasy anymore.

thats not saying itll be as good as the og crx.

but hey. there really is one coming.
The CR-Z isn't the CR-X and will never be a replacement for the CR-X. Anybody who's ever driven one knows this. Otherwise, they would've called it the CR-X. lol.
 
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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I stand corrected. (or in this case, sit corrected)
 
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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Honda CR-Z Concept to make production

seems to be that some form soon be introduced in the next couple of years..

**posted before I saw you corrected, not trying to pwn you or anything**
 
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 03:49 PM
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If the production CR-Z looks as good as the concept. I might be tempted to trade in the Fit...depends on what MPG and final specs come out as there are almost always last minute design and mechanical changes.

Gonna be tuff to beat the utility of the Fit however...I can fit lots of crap in the back...cant do that with the CR-Z.
 



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