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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DeNNis.
supercharged will kill life span on motor faster...
That's not absolute fact. If the kit is installed and tuned right, it could very well last as long as the bone stock motor.
 
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 03:51 AM
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don't plan on getting 35mpg with boost on the L15a. Barely gets 35mpg as it is bone stock, lol.

FWIW, my 400whp turbo 350z got 25+mpg highway. Not bad for a car that runs 12 second 1/4's on street tires.
Doubt my mileage will change much. I'm not exactly easy on the go pedal as is.
 
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 11:09 AM
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yeah as long as you stay out of boost it will act just like a stock fit pretty much


i think the l15 has some potential but i'm sure it will get very costly when/if they start coming out with aftermarket cam, pistons, rods, valves, springs, etc.

as of right now they make a real nice increase of power on stock internals w/ turbo kit
 
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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If i had the choice id prefer the turbo. I like the way the Fit handles and i wouldnt want to lose handling with a heavier motor. Unless you wana be sleeper status with a K20 at the drag strip.
 
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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im curious about something, everyone mentions the handling for a K20 swapped Fit is horrible but SportCompactCar magazine did an article about their K-swapped Fit, with nothing but coil-overs, rims, and sticky tires (and MAYBE a weight reduction if i remember correctly) and they say it handled like a beast on the track. they even mentioned how they gave rides with some of the other drivers that day (many of them using Ferraris and Corvette ZO6s) and many of them laughed at how well and how fast this little car handled. so honestly.....who is right and who is wrong, im not saying any of you are liars or that you dont know what you are talking about.....its just weird to see SCC praise the K-swapped Fit for its handling and everyone here makes it seem like its a speeding train carrying solid cement.
 
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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Were the SCC people driving it?
 
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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FYI, sticky tires on an autocross course (35-45 seconds long) are worth as much as 4 seconds on certain cars. Thats a LOT of time just from good sticky tires.

Not saying the tires made it handle way better, but if you've never raced a street tire car and compared to the times of an equivalent car on race tires, you'd be surprised at the difference in times.
 
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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With a K20 swap, you would have no choice but to go with custom made coilovers (if not all the way around, at least the front), or a custom made spring/shock setup to account for the added weight. If you don't, then that's where it comes on as "a scary ride" as what some have referred to it as. If you've got unlimited resources, you could definitely make a K20 swap superior to a turbo kit Fit. Just takes lots of effort and time to do it.
 
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr B
With a K20 swap, you would have no choice but to go with custom made coilovers (if not all the way around, at least the front), or a custom made spring/shock setup to account for the added weight. If you don't, then that's where it comes on as "a scary ride" as what some have referred to it as. If you've got unlimited resources, you could definitely make a K20 swap superior to a turbo kit Fit. Just takes lots of effort and time to do it.
yeah i agree with this. im sure K20 in a fit will own the crap outa turbo Fit but just needs modding to compensate for the added weight and what not. but the turbo L15A just seems somewhat more natural, its what the Fit would have wanted, instead of a heart transplant. LOL.
 
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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there are lots of available parts for the kswap.. FITswap.com
 
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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i believe so BlueCell, i'd have to go back and read it....its been at least a year or so since i came across it. i DO believe that several of the writers for Sport Compact Car are accomplished drivers that really know what they are doing, many of them test and do write-ups on cars all the time. so doing a K-swap isn't necessarily BAD from what i gather....its just all in what you do to make up for the added weight. other than the K-swap, coil-overs the Fit they drove was basically stock...same brakes and everything i DO believe...i think that particular Fit was a project car they were working on. damn....i'll dig up that issue some time today, whenever i get home from work....it was a VERY interesting read, oh well...i got some boxes to go through when i get home.
 
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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Hmm I have that article in an Import Tuner mag. It was the Hasport Fit against a stock SI. The SI stock tires were chewed up.

If you look at some of the more recent pictures of the K20 Fit, the Rotors were eaten up. To me, thats too much weight on the car to eat up rotors. But pads can do that too.

Edit: Might be SCC Mag. I'd have to look again.
 
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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lol my economics professor just gave us a cost/ benefit analysis to do for extra credit on any subject we want, im totaly doing swap vs. FI on the Fit
 
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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Does a light car like the Fit really need 400whp?

Turbo is a fairly cost effective way to get more power and it seems reliable as lots of people run this setup either from HKS or T1R with no major problems. You keep your car light and balanced compared to a swap, plus if you ever decide to flip it you can tear it off easily.

Anybody who needs 400whp should be looking at a different platform to modify IMO.
 
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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If I wanted 400 whp this is exactly the platform I would be looking at. How many 400 whp Fits do you know of? Its the rarity of it that catches my attention.
 
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboManGT
If I wanted 400 whp this is exactly the platform I would be looking at. How many 400 whp Fits do you know of? Its the rarity of it that catches my attention.

Just one FI over 400whp I know of. If I'm not mistaken, the Supercharged K20 Fit was on sale not too long ago. I wonder if it sold.
 
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboManGT
If I wanted 400 whp this is exactly the platform I would be looking at. How many 400 whp Fits do you know of? Its the rarity of it that catches my attention.
rarity is one thing, but that power would be absolutely useless.

first, you'd need stronger axles to take the power. Second, only way you're putting that power to the ground is with slicks.

Can't drive on the street with slicks. It's illegal and dangerous.

So you've got a dyno queen. Great. But not a dyno queen like a Supra that can go out and run 9's. You've got a dyno queen that, if you use slicks on it, could snap the axles with ease, and is pretty much only good for going in a straight line.

Now....how cool do you think you'd be if you showed up at the track or the races with a 400whp car that runs 13's, maybe 12's at best if you can get traction?
 
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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CHimmike has got a point. If you do the swap, be prepared to pour more cash into the fit to accomodate the swap. As for me I'd prefer turbo still. I'm sure my fit will appreciate it way more than if i were to give it heart surgery. LOL
 
Old Nov 5, 2008 | 08:29 PM
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heart surgery... you mean heart replacement right? lol
 

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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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Ok so Turbo it is but...as there is always something else to add how about adding a WR intake manifold as well...???
 



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