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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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Thumbs up Sport Automatic - - blip on downshifts??

Hey everybody - - I have money on a Stone Silver Sport with the automatic - - the paddles should make it a little more fun to drive - anyhow my question is does the automatic blip the throttle on downshifts when using the paddles?? A friend had a MR2 spyder with buttons on the steering wheel to shift, and it blipped the throttle on the downshifts - pretty cool - - I heel and toe regularly in manual cars so I'm hoping the Fit automatic does it - -

Thanks - - the car should be here by the end of the month according to the dealer
 
Old Aug 14, 2006 | 01:01 PM
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Iam pretty sure other people will be confused with what are you talking about a BLIP?!
 
Old Aug 14, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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When you downshift a car with a manual transmission, you "blip" the throttle to increase the engine RPM to match more closely to the lower gear your going into - - makes for much smoother transition when slowing into a corner, etc.

Search for heel and toe downshifting on the web to get full description of the "dance"
 
Old Aug 14, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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ah, well.. I got a MT but I was just trying to clerify it for an AT that would be able to answer your question.
 
Old Aug 14, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sz28r
Hey everybody - - I have money on a Stone Silver Sport with the automatic - - the paddles should make it a little more fun to drive - anyhow my question is does the automatic blip the throttle on downshifts when using the paddles?? A friend had a MR2 spyder with buttons on the steering wheel to shift, and it blipped the throttle on the downshifts - pretty cool - - I heel and toe regularly in manual cars so I'm hoping the Fit automatic does it - -

Thanks - - the car should be here by the end of the month according to the dealer
YES YOU CAN!

i have a track and a semi-track car....both other hondas and the Fit is auto. It will not blip the throttle on its own HOWEVER you can heel toe like you normal would a manual car which makes the paddles much more fun. drives like a manual without the clutch really enjoy
 
Old Aug 14, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by milano sol
YES YOU CAN!

i have a track and a semi-track car....both other hondas and the Fit is auto. It will not blip the throttle on its own HOWEVER you can heel toe like you normal would a manual car which makes the paddles much more fun. drives like a manual without the clutch really enjoy
sounds interesting - - my left foot isn't going to know what to do - lol
 
Old Aug 14, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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too bad Honda didn't include that feature - - you'd think it wouldn't be to hard with an advanced transmission and drive by wire - - oh well, maybe I should send Honda an email and tell them to drive a MR2
 
Old Aug 14, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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you can't drive any autobox like a manual. there is no clutch. I did test a sport paddle fit AT. It didn't blip the throttle as much as use the torque converter to rev the engine up for a downshift.
 
Old Aug 14, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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so THATS what it's called lol. newayz yeah most of the time when i downshift w/ my automatic i tap the gas so i can rev-match the engine. i feel it gives a quicker acceleration and it sounds dope too!
 
Old Aug 14, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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it's a blast when done right - - I've raced cars quite a bit, currently racing in the Skip Barber series formula dodge - - I get all of the crazy driving out of my system there and drive pretty calm on the streets
 
Old Aug 14, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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The last MR2 Spyder actually was available with an SMG transmission; it doesn't have a torque convertor like the Fit Sport 5AT. The SMG on the MR2 as I recall reading didnt offer lightning fast shifts and also for some reason, lacked an automatic mode.

Regardless, the 07 Acura TL 5AT will actually blip the throttle on downshifts. It's too bad that the Fit Sport 5AT doesnt do this, but it isnt a big loss anyways.
 
Old Aug 14, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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Interesting topic. I have the AT fit sport and you can heel toe it without difficulty using the paddles. I will probobly get some argument, but the rev time on the engine is a little slow so I think that it would actually take more time to rev the engine a couple thousand rpms than it would using the torque converter to do it. Just mashing the pedal when you use the left paddle gives the illusion of a little torque. Oh, and for others that dont use the term "blip," some gear heads refer to it as double clutching (if you are fast enough) as you drop a gear to rev the engine to match the next gear down and let the clutch out in neutral and into the gear. I once rode (white knuckled) with my brother in law in a '72 Camaro with a 454 and dual 4 barrel carbs and he made it look effortless. It turned 10.9 in the quarter mile....sorry, tend to get off topic.
 
Old Aug 15, 2006 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Sz28r

Search for heel and toe downshifting on the web to get full description of the "dance"
I love to dance
 
Old Aug 16, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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I've got the manual.

I can't do the heel-to-toe! My feet won't fit, I need another 2 inches between the clutch and brake .

Oh well, I bought it to commute with not for racing
 
Old Aug 16, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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hummmm ????

When you heel-toe, your left foot always stays on the clutch pedal and your right foot uses the brake and throttle pedal (at the same time) - - no need for your foot to fit between the clutch and brake pedals - -
 
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Originally Posted by ManassasPaul
I've got the manual.

I can't do the heel-to-toe! My feet won't fit, I need another 2 inches between the clutch and brake .

Oh well, I bought it to commute with not for racing
Yes, your left foot's job is just to depress the clutch and move to a dead pedal. Your right foot does the heel-toe.

Just keep working on it. Master rev-matching without heel-toeing first (down-shifting and blipping the throttle). Once you master that, try some straight "heel/toeing "towards a stop light. Then try some heel-toe as you approach a corner. Just make sure you complete your rev-match before the turn so you can power out of it.

I find myself doing it everyday and it has become reflexive now. Fun stuff
 
Old Aug 16, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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No, no. I mean that with my right foot across the brake and gas, it's hard to get my left foot on the clutch as my right heel gets in the way.

When I turn my right foot sideways it covers the brake and gas as well as a third of the clutch and well you get the picture. I wear size 11 wide shoes. Then again I can just about cover the brake and gas with my foot at a 45deg angle; have to try that one!
 
Old Aug 16, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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One question WHY? You will not go any faster or make the shift any quicker - It's a freaking 5 speed AUTO with a lock up torque convertor. If you're in the lock up range, and drop below the rpm's it does lock at, wouldn't you actually loose some possible forward thrust because of additional slippage that you're intentionally inducing by dropping revs?
 
Old Aug 16, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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I cant blip or shift in a turn...

cause I can't reach the paddles
 
Old Aug 16, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonniedee
One question WHY? You will not go any faster or make the shift any quicker - It's a freaking 5 speed AUTO with a lock up torque convertor. If you're in the lock up range, and drop below the rpm's it does lock at, wouldn't you actually loose some possible forward thrust because of additional slippage that you're intentionally inducing by dropping revs?

i think the lock up is electronic controlled, not just rpm based like american muscle.
 



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