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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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Compresion ratio

Is the fit's compression high? it's 10.4:1. I was reading the review for skyline redline which has a compression of 9.2:1, which edmunds says is "relatively high" http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=116655

Boost peaks around 18 psi, and power builds progressively without obvious lag and with useful off-boost torque, thanks to a relatively high 9.2:1 compression ratio and variable valve timing on both cams.
If 9.2 is high, so is fit's 10.4 right? How certain are we that we shouldn't go higher than reguloar unleaded?
 
Old Sep 5, 2006 | 01:37 AM
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9.2 is a little high for a boosted motor but 10.4 is not too high for a NA motor with modern engine management computers. This is an apples to oranges comparison.

As for the answer to your question, it would be best to look at the compression ratio of cars with premium recommended. Anybody out there have info on this?

There have been lots of other threads pertaining to octane and fuel grades.
 
Old Sep 5, 2006 | 02:00 AM
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EP3 JDM have 11.5 and you can buy Toda piston for heaving 12.5
Just change the head gasket increase the ratio for 0.4. But for this time, we don't have head gasket for L13A or L15A.
 
Old Sep 5, 2006 | 02:16 AM
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You can have a high compression motor and still be turbo, you just better be damn good with tuning.

The Fit is 10.1.
 
Old Sep 5, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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can somebody please explain what a compression ratio means.. and how it affects us or our engines.
 
Old Sep 5, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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THAT IS A GOOD ONE!!! should be quite educational for us non-engineers.
Thnks sLiVeRwOrM!!!
 
Old Sep 5, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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thanks... I try lol
 
Old Sep 5, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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oh that sounds easy enough to understand. So if we were to get a turbo or something we want very little boost or to lower the compression ratio..
 
Old Sep 5, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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yeah i noticed skunk 2 installed lower compression pistons to lower the compression for the turbo kit. that is probably the smartest cause you can always make more power by turning up the boost but put the motor in much more risk for detonation if you still ran the stock compression. turbos make it too tempting to add boost by turning a dial or pushing a button, but I still like em
 
Old Sep 5, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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yes, nice move on their part..

you would prorably want to do the same thing if you used NOS huh


what if you were to lower the compression w/ out adding boost or NOS? what would happen.. massive power loss?
 

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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sLiVeRwOrM
yes, nice move on their part..

you would prorably want to do the same thing if you used NOS huh


what if you were to lower the compression w/ out adding boost or NOS? what would happen.. massive power loss?
pretty much, you think your using less air and fuel room to compress with less mechanical energy. The goldylocks theory for using compression adding components is to find a safe compression ratio between the increased densities being added and the compression of the motor. For NOS though, i don't think compression is an issue too much because it is not adding too much in overall cylinder compression but a more volitole fuel/air additive for burn...wouldn't hurt though just too much investment for such a small cost to power adder(NoS)
 
Old Sep 6, 2006 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jits14
yeah i noticed skunk 2 installed lower compression pistons to lower the compression for the turbo kit. that is probably the smartest cause you can always make more power by turning up the boost but put the motor in much more risk for detonation if you still ran the stock compression. turbos make it too tempting to add boost by turning a dial or pushing a button, but I still like em
A friend have a EP3 with turbo, he changed the piston and rod for more duty (less height) and down compression to 9.0
He have 600hp... (he limit the HP on 1-230hp, 2-300hp, ...)
 
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