Pondering purchase - 6MT or CVT?
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Pondering purchase - 6MT or CVT?
Howdy, I've on this forum since May 2006. I put 93000+ miles on a 2007 5MT (1st gen)- traded it in on a 2013 5MT (2nd gen) which now has 40000+ miles on it. Sorta thinking about a getting a 2019 Fit (3rd gen) with some new bells and whistles/safety stuff and pondering whether to go with a CVT with paddle shifters or a 6MT. Been driving stick since the late 1950s - enjoy the control, engine braking of the MT (not to mention the theft deterrent effect of an MT car). But intrigued about the CVT with paddle shifters. MT cars are really scarce these days. Opinions, comments - pro and con on the choices......
Last edited by baldddguy; 02-11-2019 at 04:42 PM.
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Howdy, I've on this forum since May 2006. I put 93000+ miles on a 2007 5MT (1st gen)- traded it in on a 2013 5MT (2nd gen) which now has 40000+ miles on it. Sorta thinking about a getting a 2019 Fit (3rd gen) with some new bells and whistles/safety stuff and pondering whether to go with a CVT with paddle shifters or a 6MT. Been driving stick since the late 1950s - enjoy the control, engine braking of the MT (not to mention the theft deterrent effect of an MT car). But intrigued about the CVT with paddle shifters. MT cars are really scarce these days. Opinions, comments - pro and con on the choices......ONE OTHER question.- on the back of the Fit brochure - it says "Follow or share the Fit experience across the Fit Facebook page....) There are several Fit facebook pages. Which one it THE ONE??
Just go and test drive one and see if it's something you'd like.
If you do a lot of highway driving, the CVT has lower RPMs at highway speed.
#3
I owned the GK with 6MT for 3 years and don't regret one bit switching to the CVT model last year. And also... the CVT does engine braking automatically as soon as you let off the gas.... at least mine does... not sure about the 2018's or later models. I have the 2016 ex-l with paddles. Also, you will appreciate the low rpms on the hwy. As for the paddles, I use them rarely... and when I use them it's to overtake on the hwy or when descending long/steep hills.
#4
Pros (cvt) - lower highway rpm, ease of use in traffic, anyone can drive it
cons (cvt) - anyone can drive it, not as engaging, twisty roads not as fun
pros (6MT) - engaging, not everyone can drive it, the feeling you get when you nail a perfect down shift
cons (6MT) - traffic, higher engine rpm on highway, can’t take a day off from shifting
Its really up to what you want from the car and your intentions with it. If it was a DSG auto it would be better.
cons (cvt) - anyone can drive it, not as engaging, twisty roads not as fun
pros (6MT) - engaging, not everyone can drive it, the feeling you get when you nail a perfect down shift
cons (6MT) - traffic, higher engine rpm on highway, can’t take a day off from shifting
Its really up to what you want from the car and your intentions with it. If it was a DSG auto it would be better.
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I drove a CVT CR-V last week.
I hated the thing so much I almost wished it had regular automatic transmission...
Go test drive one. I guess they are not too bad since people buy them.
I hated the thing so much I almost wished it had regular automatic transmission...
Go test drive one. I guess they are not too bad since people buy them.
Last edited by carotman; 02-13-2019 at 11:57 AM.
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I owned the GK with 6MT for 3 years and don't regret one bit switching to the CVT model last year. And also... the CVT does engine braking automatically as soon as you let off the gas.... at least mine does... not sure about the 2018's or later models. I have the 2016 ex-l with paddles. Also, you will appreciate the low rpms on the hwy. As for the paddles, I use them rarely... and when I use them it's to overtake on the hwy or when descending long/steep hills.
#10
What did you end up doing anyways?
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That's what we used to think -- until last summer, when my wife's 2000 Jeep Cherokee, with a 5-speed stick, got boosted -- right out of our parking lot at home! They didn't get far -- the cops called us a couple of days later to say that they'd ditched it, and it had been towed to a garage. Vandalized -- ignition switch was ripped out, probably with a dent puller, and with no way to turn on the ignition, there was also no easy way to close the windows!
We had it towed home... and they tried to steal it again! It couldn't be strted, of course, but they may have been complete idiots and thought they could push-start it. Failing in this, they just left it in the parking lot, near the entrance.
We ended up junking it -- it had around 260K miles on it and was pretty much used up, but it still ran well!
So a manual gearbox may not have as much deterrent effect as we think! Just one data point, of course. They found out quickly that it's tough being the baddest homey in the 'hood when word gets around that you can't drive a stick.... ha, that Cherokee was a beast to drive, until you got used to it....
Urb
We had it towed home... and they tried to steal it again! It couldn't be strted, of course, but they may have been complete idiots and thought they could push-start it. Failing in this, they just left it in the parking lot, near the entrance.
We ended up junking it -- it had around 260K miles on it and was pretty much used up, but it still ran well!
So a manual gearbox may not have as much deterrent effect as we think! Just one data point, of course. They found out quickly that it's tough being the baddest homey in the 'hood when word gets around that you can't drive a stick.... ha, that Cherokee was a beast to drive, until you got used to it....
Urb
#16
The first thief to come along may not know how to drive a manual, but the second might!
#18
How does a Continuously Variable Transmission shift? Faux paddle shifters.
CVT is the worst pick. MT being the best and a regular auto being second best.
CVT really stands for Crappy Version of Transmission. Worst reliability and most expensive to repair. BTW, when the chain/metal belt goes kaboom the whole tranny is littered with metal.
That said, a low torque application, like the Fit, is where the CVT does the least amount of harm and Honda's CVTs have been better than average. Still anyone who gets a CVT when they could have gotten a MT does not have a life worth living -- now you know.
CVT is the worst pick. MT being the best and a regular auto being second best.
CVT really stands for Crappy Version of Transmission. Worst reliability and most expensive to repair. BTW, when the chain/metal belt goes kaboom the whole tranny is littered with metal.
That said, a low torque application, like the Fit, is where the CVT does the least amount of harm and Honda's CVTs have been better than average. Still anyone who gets a CVT when they could have gotten a MT does not have a life worth living -- now you know.
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Urb
#20
always is a debate. very valid point!!