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Without taking the time for an in-depth study of fatal collisions in LA, I have to wonder how many of them are primarily due to problems with road design, and how many are primarily due to reckless or other criminal driving? There's a long history of hooliganism, street racing, and utter disregard for the law in parts of the city, and while I'm not going to say a significant part of the deaths happen during the races, those morons probably drive dangerously everywhere else they go.
Increased enforcement, longer sentences, and crushing their cars into cubes might help somewhat. It's not a full solution, but a necessary part of one.
Actually auto accidents are the leading cause of teen fatality. More than guns, drugs and violent crimes combined. Unfortunately more parents don't take advantage of the Tire Rack Street Survival program. It teaches necessary skills that most teens learn the hard way.
Yeah I thought it was more like "auto accidents are the leading cause of deaths for teens in LA". Just had to post what was in the article. My bet is on most losing their lives by doing dangerous stuff on their phones.
The following shows how dangerous it is for pedestrians out in the real world. Fortunately no one gets hurt. The drunk driver should be deported if he's an illegal. Just about every other country would do this if it happened in their country.
Actually auto accidents are the leading cause of teen fatality. More than guns, drugs and violent crimes combined. Unfortunately more parents don't take advantage of the Tire Rack Street Survival program. It teaches necessary skills that most teens learn the hard way.
Thanks for posting that, I wasn't aware they had it. I didn't watch the whole video, but that reminds me of kind of the skills we were taught in Motorcycle Safety Foundations Basic Riders Course. We learned panic stops and emergency lane changes for example. At the start of the riding season, I like to find myself a nice empty parking lot and practice those skills since I'm sure I get rusty during the winter months when it's just too dang cold to ride.
When my kids are driving age, I'll have to see if the program is still around.
Actually auto accidents are the leading cause of teen fatality. More than guns, drugs and violent crimes combined. Unfortunately more parents don't take advantage of the Tire Rack Street Survival program. It teaches necessary skills that most teens learn the hard way.
Yes thanks for posting that!!! I have never heard of it but if it is around when my kids are of that age I will definitely be sending them. As soon as my kids can reach the pedal they will be practicing in a car/truck. My daughter at 4 helps me back the car out of the garage and I want to keep her interested in driving and not scared of it.
Our drivers ed system is very flawed and in my state a joke. Parents attitudes toward it don't help the situation either. Driving is a privilege not a right!
That totally makes sense. I’m surprised I survived 🤪. The good news is, although we certainly didn’t consider cars in the 80s or 90s to be death traps at the time - today’s cars are FAR safer both in avoiding and surviving a crash.
Did anyone else notice the other driver's error in the video at #4? Not sure in AZ, but in CA the driver is suppose to yield to the peds in the crosswalks. The driver in the white car, at the beginning of the video, failed to yield to the peds in the crosswalk. In fact came pretty dang close to the peds! This is example of what they face on a pretty much daily bases (not the being rescued from another car).
Yes thanks for posting that!!! I have never heard of it but if it is around when my kids are of that age I will definitely be sending them. As soon as my kids can reach the pedal they will be practicing in a car/truck. My daughter at 4 helps me back the car out of the garage and I want to keep her interested in driving and not scared of it.
Our drivers ed system is very flawed and in my state a joke. Parents attitudes toward it don't help the situation either. Driving is a privilege not a right!
I autocross or do SCCA Solo. That was how I found out about it. A year or so before my son turned 16 I volunteered and took the instructor class. I figured I should give back if I expected someone to teach my son. (not saying you or anyone else has to do what i did) Most of the students seem to be children of SCCA members or BWW owners kids even though it's open to anyone. My student was court ordered to attend after her auto accident. She was struggling with the emergency braking portion. Eventually she was able to get it and asked if she could repeat it. The answer was yes. She probably did that exercise a dozen more times. After the school was over she thanked me for being her instructor. She then commented had she braked like in the emergency braking exercise, she probably would have avoided her accident. It was very rewarding. to hear that.
It was like pulling teeth to get my son to go. One day the brakes failed on his $800 beater car and he had enough forethought to see there wasn't any oncoming traffic, so he swerved into their lanes to avoid rear ending the car in front of him. Before anyone says anything he's been offered my 2017 Fit numerous times to replace his beater. Anyway, then he decided maybe it wasn't a bad idea to attend. He was scared to attend but landed up enjoying the class and has been trying to talk his friends into attending ever since.
Yes thanks for posting that!!! I have never heard of it but if it is around when my kids are of that age I will definitely be sending them. As soon as my kids can reach the pedal they will be practicing in a car/truck. My daughter at 4 helps me back the car out of the garage and I want to keep her interested in driving and not scared of it.
Our drivers ed system is very flawed and in my state a joke. Parents attitudes toward it don't help the situation either. Driving is a privilege not a right!
Hopefully driving is not the mainstream act/requirement in twelve years that it is today.
Originally Posted by fujisawa
That totally makes sense. I’m surprised I survived 🤪. The good news is, although we certainly didn’t consider cars in the 80s or 90s to be death traps at the time - today’s cars are FAR safer both in avoiding and surviving a crash.
As long as you’re not a pedestrian ...
People drive more now than they did in the 80's/90's. There are more cars on the road. More distractions. Etc.
Originally Posted by Rob H
I autocross or do SCCA Solo. That was how I found out about it. A year or so before my son turned 16 I volunteered and took the instructor class. I figured I should give back if I expected someone to teach my son. (not saying you or anyone else has to do what i did) Most of the students seem to be children of SCCA members or BWW owners kids even though it's open to anyone. My student was court ordered to attend after her auto accident. She was struggling with the emergency braking portion. Eventually she was able to get it and asked if she could repeat it. The answer was yes. She probably did that exercise a dozen more times. After the school was over she thanked me for being her instructor. She then commented had she braked like in the emergency braking exercise, she probably would have avoided her accident. It was very rewarding. to hear that.
It was like pulling teeth to get my son to go. One day the brakes failed on his $800 beater car and he had enough forethought to see there wasn't any oncoming traffic, so he swerved into their lanes to avoid rear ending the car in front of him. Before anyone says anything he's been offered my 2017 Fit numerous times to replace his beater. Anyway, then he decided maybe it wasn't a bad idea to attend. He was scared to attend but landed up enjoying the class and has been trying to talk his friends into attending ever since.
All the skills in the world can't prevent distracted driving.
