Problems w/ a Friend (Ex-Friend)
#21
i cant really say ive been in this situation exactly before, but ive been in friendships and relationships that ended badly, and when they come back in touch, its never really been a positive experience. it sucks being used. just do what you think is right.
#23
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 8,956
Im no expert but it sounds like he went after the girl you didnt like and tried to keep it from you till he felt comfortable bringing her around you. Then when him and her fell apart he took some time to himself and is now trying to get back into your good graces. Maybe i read something wrong but thats what i take from it. I say talk to him and just see what happens. If he is a Tool (sorry Tyler) then stop kickin it with him and if he is back to normal and everything is cool then your all good. Thats my thoughts atleast.
After a week or so they act like he doesnt exist. Id always give him advice, and in the end Id always be right.
Originally Posted by LOZA
Man Ray knowing that we dont know the whole story(both sides) it seems like he was using you for the help. Hopefully the friendship was more than that though. I believe you can always forgive friends...but like you said things wont be as tight as it use to. I had almost the same situation happen to me but he was my friend since I was in 3rd grade and im 21 now. We talk every now and then, but its rare. Anyhow, I have to agree with you on releasing your stress by going on drives. Because I do that often when I have lots on my mind. Its great. Hope things work out man.
Im sure that everyones had similar problems as me. The reason why Im not being so forgiving is that I havent known him that long. Like my other friend Ive known since my freshman year of high school.
Originally Posted by yeamans17
I think he probably hid that he was with the girl you hate because he knew you didn't like her, and sometimes when you start dating someone new its like you don't even realize the rest of the world is there. I'd say give him another chance
Explain? Hahah
Originally Posted by fit_love
i cant really say ive been in this situation exactly before, but ive been in friendships and relationships that ended badly, and when they come back in touch, its never really been a positive experience. it sucks being used. just do what you think is right.
Last edited by Raaaaaaaaaay.; 04-01-2008 at 09:12 PM.
#24
Pretty sure it wasnt the girl. Hes with a lot of different girls, whats funny is that he always gets hurt. I always give him advice not to get cozy with them because he meets them on Myspace.
After a week or so they act like he doesnt exist. Id always give him advice, and in the end Id always be right.
After a week or so they act like he doesnt exist. Id always give him advice, and in the end Id always be right.
#25
Privacy my friend. What i usually do is put everything on thought, see the ups and downs of every choice i have and then come to an agreement(with what ill do) and act.
(sorry for this speech, i already noticed my mind is not keeping in touch with my english)
Last edited by fits_all; 04-01-2008 at 09:29 PM.
#27
I've got no explanation then. LOL. I don't know man, I've had friends that only come around when they want work done on cars, or when they know I'm selling my car parts, they chime in trying to get something for dirt cheap. Good luck
#28
Ray, I don't want to say that I am an expert on this kind of stuff, but I am an expert on this kind of stuff. Forgive me if i am repeating anything. I didn't feel like reading everyones replies. Girls are the number one reason that friends stop being friends (usually only until they stop hanging out with the one). I know that I am very guilty of that. It is nothing personal towards my friends. It is just that I would rather hang out with my girl more.
His time spent with you would dwindle because he will spend more time with her. If he knows that you don't like the girl then he will cut it off faster and he will be stupid about it. Guys tend to do that over chicks and will give up on things that they cherish for them. But if he knows that she doesn't like you then this will be exponentially worse. I wouldn't take this one personally.
Bottom line here is that he was a good friend to you and made you feel level. Give him another shot, but be forward with him about his behavior. Call him out. I bet he will come around. Use your best judgment though.
His time spent with you would dwindle because he will spend more time with her. If he knows that you don't like the girl then he will cut it off faster and he will be stupid about it. Guys tend to do that over chicks and will give up on things that they cherish for them. But if he knows that she doesn't like you then this will be exponentially worse. I wouldn't take this one personally.
Bottom line here is that he was a good friend to you and made you feel level. Give him another shot, but be forward with him about his behavior. Call him out. I bet he will come around. Use your best judgment though.
#29
Ray, I don't want to say that I am an expert on this kind of stuff, but I am an expert on this kind of stuff. Forgive me if i am repeating anything. I didn't feel like reading everyones replies. Girls are the number one reason that friends stop being friends (usually only until they stop hanging out with the one). I know that I am very guilty of that. It is nothing personal towards my friends. It is just that I would rather hang out with my girl more.
His time spent with you would dwindle because he will spend more time with her. If he knows that you don't like the girl then he will cut it off faster and he will be stupid about it. Guys tend to do that over chicks and will give up on things that they cherish for them. But if he knows that she doesn't like you then this will be exponentially worse. I wouldn't take this one personally.
Bottom line here is that he was a good friend to you and made you feel level. Give him another shot, but be forward with him about his behavior. Call him out. I bet he will come around. Use your best judgment though.
His time spent with you would dwindle because he will spend more time with her. If he knows that you don't like the girl then he will cut it off faster and he will be stupid about it. Guys tend to do that over chicks and will give up on things that they cherish for them. But if he knows that she doesn't like you then this will be exponentially worse. I wouldn't take this one personally.
Bottom line here is that he was a good friend to you and made you feel level. Give him another shot, but be forward with him about his behavior. Call him out. I bet he will come around. Use your best judgment though.
#30
Ray, I don't want to say that I am an expert on this kind of stuff, but I am an expert on this kind of stuff. Forgive me if i am repeating anything. I didn't feel like reading everyones replies. Girls are the number one reason that friends stop being friends (usually only until they stop hanging out with the one). I know that I am very guilty of that. It is nothing personal towards my friends. It is just that I would rather hang out with my girl more.
His time spent with you would dwindle because he will spend more time with her. If he knows that you don't like the girl then he will cut it off faster and he will be stupid about it. Guys tend to do that over chicks and will give up on things that they cherish for them. But if he knows that she doesn't like you then this will be exponentially worse. I wouldn't take this one personally.
Bottom line here is that he was a good friend to you and made you feel level. Give him another shot, but be forward with him about his behavior. Call him out. I bet he will come around. Use your best judgment though.
His time spent with you would dwindle because he will spend more time with her. If he knows that you don't like the girl then he will cut it off faster and he will be stupid about it. Guys tend to do that over chicks and will give up on things that they cherish for them. But if he knows that she doesn't like you then this will be exponentially worse. I wouldn't take this one personally.
Bottom line here is that he was a good friend to you and made you feel level. Give him another shot, but be forward with him about his behavior. Call him out. I bet he will come around. Use your best judgment though.
#32
I'm wondering if it's the girl??? 'Sounds like a threesome that doesn't work.
Could be he's going through a bad time, and now maybe he's coming out of it which explains the sudden 'Hey bud, wassup?' attitude. It really screws with your head. Go forward cautiously, and see if he'll be honest with you. If not, check back in with other fun friends.
I really miss a friend that was so easy and soooooo fun to be with - NEVER thought it would end, but it did, we're completely out of touch now.
Sorry to hear this, hope he's a stand-up guy and fesses up to you (honestly).
Could be he's going through a bad time, and now maybe he's coming out of it which explains the sudden 'Hey bud, wassup?' attitude. It really screws with your head. Go forward cautiously, and see if he'll be honest with you. If not, check back in with other fun friends.
I really miss a friend that was so easy and soooooo fun to be with - NEVER thought it would end, but it did, we're completely out of touch now.
Sorry to hear this, hope he's a stand-up guy and fesses up to you (honestly).
#33
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 8,956
I'm wondering if it's the girl??? 'Sounds like a threesome that doesn't work.
Could be he's going through a bad time, and now maybe he's coming out of it which explains the sudden 'Hey bud, wassup?' attitude. It really screws with your head. Go forward cautiously, and see if he'll be honest with you. If not, check back in with other fun friends.
I really miss a friend that was so easy and soooooo fun to be with - NEVER thought it would end, but it did, we're completely out of touch now.
Sorry to hear this, hope he's a stand-up guy and fesses up to you (honestly).
Could be he's going through a bad time, and now maybe he's coming out of it which explains the sudden 'Hey bud, wassup?' attitude. It really screws with your head. Go forward cautiously, and see if he'll be honest with you. If not, check back in with other fun friends.
I really miss a friend that was so easy and soooooo fun to be with - NEVER thought it would end, but it did, we're completely out of touch now.
Sorry to hear this, hope he's a stand-up guy and fesses up to you (honestly).
Hahah! jk.
He has good taste in girls, look wise. Personality is always the same though. Only one girl he hangs out with is perfect all around. Shes so awesome. Me and her click together great, but hes not interested in her as a GF. I find so odd.
They go together so well too. And they never fight, if they do its solved within hours. Maybe its one of those sister/brother relationships?
But yes, osborne its obviously its girls thats causing him to act that way. Not THE girl, girls. Its always a different girl probably weekly for him.
He needs to get his shit straight IMO.
The reason why I didnt plan on talking to him anymore is the car factor. I know a lot of people that call me when they need something and only when they need something. I ended all that by not answering the phone anymore for them.
When I was 16 to 18 I was the car master. I did clutches, transmissions, engine swaps, ALL that. When people started wanting free bees that I would refuse to do is when I found out who my real friends were.
And now that I do some paint work.
Life sucks, at times.
#34
I hear ya on the people only calling when it benefits them. I went through that for many years when i lived in the barracks on base. I spent almost every weekend at the shop on base fixing everyones junk and for nothing more then a pat on the back and a thanks. It was garbage and really pissed me off so i ended it by quoting people prices for what they wanted me to do for them. Not crazy prices but fair for my time and it stopped really quick. I call it cutting the fat. haha. Now i got true friends that if they need stuff done i do it and receive lots back to comp my time and we always are there for each other. Good luck with your friend Ray and hopefully things work out. He doesnt sound like a bad guy just a little off the beaten path and needs to listen to friends like you that dont want him to fall on his face over and over again. Thats what true friends are there for.
#35
What is it with the human race that makes people take such advantage of each other? And it's always us nice people that learn so slowly to say NO!! I've had the same problem with sewing over the years - even my stupid sister. (she's not really stupid - only when I hate her I'd say to her "Why don't you do it, you know how to sew!" And she'd tell me that I could do it faster and better. AAAAAAAAAAKKKK SHE MUST DIE!!!!
(Don't worry, she's still alive). I started telling people (including she who must not be named) that there are people that do it professionally and I don't have time.
(Don't worry, she's still alive). I started telling people (including she who must not be named) that there are people that do it professionally and I don't have time.
#36
not that im goin personal with this page, but when i replied to this thread before, i was goin through some kind of problems-situations, but now that im all chill, i read this again, and what Osborne says, is something im doing. I have ditched many "friends" due to problems with my girl, and its not something that im love-blinded, its that im seeing the real personality in them, and sometimes its just that, id rather be with her. So my advice is, be cool, if you can talk to him, do it. Whenever life brings him back, you can hit him in the head with that comprehensive thing you were doing while he was all ignorant. But give the guy some space tho.
btw i didnt saw b4 that u became a moderator..grats on that
btw i didnt saw b4 that u became a moderator..grats on that
#37
he probably needs your help on his car.
pssh i hate people who do that. leave, dont talk to you for awhile and all the sudden come back.
for me, friends are replaceable. even your BEST friends are replaceable.
short story even shorter....ask him what happen? if its not a good excuse then thats not even worth your friendship. haha like that, excuse.
ive had a couple of girly friends dip out on me.been there for them but for some reason the boys are always more important. but when they need help they come runnin back. the first time i was like alright. the second time i was like **** you, dont talk to me.
and i havnt talked to them since. some 3 years, some 4.
those kind of people arent worth my time.
pssh i hate people who do that. leave, dont talk to you for awhile and all the sudden come back.
for me, friends are replaceable. even your BEST friends are replaceable.
short story even shorter....ask him what happen? if its not a good excuse then thats not even worth your friendship. haha like that, excuse.
ive had a couple of girly friends dip out on me.been there for them but for some reason the boys are always more important. but when they need help they come runnin back. the first time i was like alright. the second time i was like **** you, dont talk to me.
and i havnt talked to them since. some 3 years, some 4.
those kind of people arent worth my time.
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