In article <1115161055.7f41e6e8c0eb35c36f1c72c83eea4a99@teran ews>, Tae Oh
<taeoh@hondasucks.com> wrote:

> I am not sure what the designers at Honda were smoking when they designed
> the Civic 2000. This model has a clearance that is lower than typical
> parking bars. So every time you pull up a parking spot or getting out of a
> drive way that is uneven with the road, you'd almost always manage to
> scrape off the bottom front part of your car!
>
> What the f*ck is wrong with those morons at Honda????

Trade it in on a car or SUV that have a higher clearance. I agree that
Honda engineers have done some stupid things but they have also done some
great things. I really rented a car made by another company--it was much
worse than my Honda Accord.

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>In article <1115161055.7f41e6e8c0eb35c36f1c72c83eea4a99@teran ews>, Tae Oh
<taeoh@hondasucks.com> wrote:
>
> I am not sure what the designers at Honda were smoking when they designed
> the Civic 2000. This model has a clearance that is lower than typical
> parking bars. So every time you pull up a parking spot or getting out of a
> drive way that is uneven with the road, you'd almost always manage to
> scrape off the bottom front part of your car!
>
> What the f*ck is wrong with those morons at Honda????

The Oldsmobile that I have now does not clear many "parking bars". The
Oldsmobile that I had before this one failed to clear some of them. The
Ford that I had before both of these Oldsmobiles failed to clear enough of
them.

So I surely don't blame Honda for the existence of "parking bars" that
can't be cleared by a Honda, Ford or Oldsmobile!

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

 

In article <1115161055.7f41e6e8c0eb35c36f1c72c83eea4a99@teran ews>,
taeoh@hondasucks.com says...

>I am not sure what the designers at Honda were smoking when they designed
>the Civic 2000. This model has a clearance that is lower than typical
>parking bars. So every time you pull up a parking spot or getting out of a
>drive way that is uneven with the road, you'd almost always manage to
>scrape off the bottom front part of your car!
>What the f*ck is wrong with those morons at Honda????

If you fix the nut behind the wheel, then this won't be a problem.
-------------
Alex

 

My Acura Integra used to do this. So I got larger tires and it stopped.

 

"Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
news:d5ausc$opq$7@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...
> In article <1115161055.7f41e6e8c0eb35c36f1c72c83eea4a99@teran ews>,
> taeoh@hondasucks.com says...
>
>>I am not sure what the designers at Honda were smoking when they designed
>>the Civic 2000. This model has a clearance that is lower than typical
>>parking bars. So every time you pull up a parking spot or getting out of a
>>drive way that is uneven with the road, you'd almost always manage to
>>scrape off the bottom front part of your car!
>>What the f*ck is wrong with those morons at Honda????
>
> If you fix the nut behind the wheel, then this won't be a problem.

I was figuring an electrical problem. Short between the steering wheel and
the seat...

 

I am not sure what the designers at Honda were smoking when they designed
the Civic 2000. This model has a clearance that is lower than typical
parking bars. So every time you pull up a parking spot or getting out of a
drive way that is uneven with the road, you'd almost always manage to
scrape off the bottom front part of your car!

What the f*ck is wrong with those morons at Honda????

 

>>
>> Is that bad? The driver's eyes should be on the road, not the
>> speedometer.
>> If you even have to look at the speedo, you're improperly trained to
>> operate
>> a vehicle anyway. -Dave
>
> LOL--Making use of your logic--the engineers should mount the speedometer
> on the passenger side or not even install one.

Exactly. It shouldn't even be in the car. -Dave

 

drivers eyes are never on the road 100% of the time. you have to watch
other things while driving (rear-view mirror for example).
"Ted B." <noway@nohow.not.ever> wrote in message
news:427a13ee$0$19385$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfr eenews.net...
I read about a small BMW car that has
> the speed odometer mounted in the center of the dashboard.
>

Is that bad? The driver's eyes should be on the road, not the speedometer.
If you even have to look at the speedo, you're improperly trained to operate
a vehicle anyway. -Dave

 

"Ted B." <noway@nohow.not.ever> wrote in message
news:427a13ee$0$19385$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfr eenews.net...
> I read about a small BMW car that has
>> the speed odometer mounted in the center of the dashboard.
>>
>
> Is that bad? The driver's eyes should be on the road, not the
> speedometer. If you even have to look at the speedo, you're improperly
> trained to operate a vehicle anyway. -Dave
>
Without the speedometer precision navigation is not possible (even with
navi, failure to keep at the prescribed speed means predictions are out the
window). I can leave a work site 150 miles from my office and tell my boss
when I will arrive within ten minutes at worst, 5 minutes nominal, just by
keeping my speed at the posted limit. When my wife and I are on vacation,
she drives and I navigate. I tell her, "make your way into the right lane
around 10:55" and she knows how long she has to just keep her eyes on the
traffic around her and choose her lane without regard to where the next
interchange is, and when to shift to manuever mode. And there is never a
blip in our speed when passing a patrol car.

The driver's eyes are to scan the instruments and the mirrors periodically -
part of the Smith method of driving.

Mike

 

Scion does the same.

Jeeps used to have center dash speedos too.

 

> I read about a small BMW car that has
>> the speed odometer mounted in the center of the dashboard.

It's that way in my Mini (owned by BMW), perhaps that's
what you're talking about. It's the biggest, coolest, easiest
to read speedometer you could want... and the "center" of the
Mini's dashboard is pretty close to "right in front of you" <g>...

-Mike

 

In article <427a13ee$0$19385$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreene ws.net>, "Ted
B." <noway@nohow.not.ever> wrote:

> I read about a small BMW car that has
> > the speed odometer mounted in the center of the dashboard.
> >
>
> Is that bad? The driver's eyes should be on the road, not the speedometer.
> If you even have to look at the speedo, you're improperly trained to operate
> a vehicle anyway. -Dave

LOL--Making use of your logic--the engineers should mount the speedometer
on the passenger side or not even install one.

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"Ted B." <noway@nohow.not.ever> wrote in
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>>> Is that bad? The driver's eyes should be on the road, not the
>>> speedometer. If you even have to look at the speedo, you're
>>> improperly trained to operate a vehicle anyway. -Dave
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> That may be true, but a speedometer comes in handy on those roads
>> where the
>> posted limit is much lower than the design speed of the road. Guess
>> where speed traps get set up?
>
> The problem is the improperly set speed limits. You can't fix that
> problem by changing where speedometers are installed. If the powers
> that be truly cared about traffic safety, both speed limits and
> speedometers would be banned.



Clapclapclapclapclap.

Obviously, you can forget about ever getting a job with any government by
thinking like that. And the cops would hate you for removing a major source
of revenue from them.



> Drivers should be DRIVING, not thinking
> about how the vehicle's velocity relates to a specific number. If you
> are going too fast for conditions, you shouldn't need to confirm that
> by looking at a speedometer. Also, a speedometer can give a poorly
> trained driver a false sense of security.


It can give ANY driver problems, even trained ones. Can you imagine the
increase in accidents if race car drivers had speedometers? "Gee, I hit
this corner at 63 the last lap, maybe I can shave a bit off my time if I
make sure I hit it at 65...or 67...or 69..."



> That is, you can be driving
> way too fast for conditions and still be driving slower than the speed
> limit.


Yup. My own province records such things as "speed too fast", which the
cops and insurance companies love to (deliberately) misinterpret as
"speeding" faster than the posted limit. The statistic actually means speed
too fast FOR CONDITIONS, with no mention of the driver's speed relative to
the posted limit. If you slide off the road at 25 and the limit is 35, it
gets put down as "speed too fast".





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>> Is that bad? The driver's eyes should be on the road, not the
>> speedometer. If you even have to look at the speedo, you're improperly
>> trained to operate a vehicle anyway. -Dave
>>
>>
>
>
> That may be true, but a speedometer comes in handy on those roads where
> the
> posted limit is much lower than the design speed of the road. Guess where
> speed traps get set up?

The problem is the improperly set speed limits. You can't fix that problem
by changing where speedometers are installed. If the powers that be truly
cared about traffic safety, both speed limits and speedometers would be
banned. Drivers should be DRIVING, not thinking about how the vehicle's
velocity relates to a specific number. If you are going too fast for
conditions, you shouldn't need to confirm that by looking at a speedometer.
Also, a speedometer can give a poorly trained driver a false sense of
security. That is, you can be driving way too fast for conditions and still
be driving slower than the speed limit. -Dave

 

"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:jason-0405051411430001@pm4-> I read about a small BMW car that has
> the speed odometer mounted in the center of the dashboard.
>
Our 2002 Toyota Prius has the digital spedometer/odometer, fuel guage and
warning lights mounted in the top of the center of the dashboard. Very
convenient, actually. No risk of the oil pressure light going unnoticed for
an hour. To each their own.

Mike

 

"Ted B." <noway@nohow.not.ever> wrote in
news:427a13ee$0$19385$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfr eenews.net:

> I read about a small BMW car that has
>> the speed odometer mounted in the center of the dashboard.
>>
>
> Is that bad? The driver's eyes should be on the road, not the
> speedometer. If you even have to look at the speedo, you're improperly
> trained to operate a vehicle anyway. -Dave
>
>


That may be true, but a speedometer comes in handy on those roads where the
posted limit is much lower than the design speed of the road. Guess where
speed traps get set up?

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I read about a small BMW car that has
> the speed odometer mounted in the center of the dashboard.
>

Is that bad? The driver's eyes should be on the road, not the speedometer.
If you even have to look at the speedo, you're improperly trained to operate
a vehicle anyway. -Dave

 

"Tae Oh" <taeoh@hondasucks.com> wrote in message
news:1115161055.7f41e6e8c0eb35c36f1c72c83eea4a99@t eranews...
>I am not sure what the designers at Honda were smoking when they designed
> the Civic 2000. This model has a clearance that is lower than typical
> parking bars. So every time you pull up a parking spot or getting out of a
> drive way that is uneven with the road, you'd almost always manage to
> scrape off the bottom front part of your car!


How much load is in the car when this happens? You got Fat Albert in there??
I always driven Civics no problem, small car, hang back a bit.

 

And just think... people change the springs to lower the car further...
LOL

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com


Tae Oh wrote:
> I am not sure what the designers at Honda were smoking when they
designed
> the Civic 2000. This model has a clearance that is lower than typical

> parking bars. So every time you pull up a parking spot or getting out
of a
> drive way that is uneven with the road, you'd almost always manage to

> scrape off the bottom front part of your car!
>
> What the f*ck is wrong with those morons at Honda????

 

In article <Eq7ee.461$8g.56@news01.roc.ny>, "Seth"
<seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
> news:d5ausc$opq$7@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...
> > In article <1115161055.7f41e6e8c0eb35c36f1c72c83eea4a99@teran ews>,
> > taeoh@hondasucks.com says...
> >
> >>I am not sure what the designers at Honda were smoking when they designed
> >>the Civic 2000. This model has a clearance that is lower than typical
> >>parking bars. So every time you pull up a parking spot or getting out of a
> >>drive way that is uneven with the road, you'd almost always manage to
> >>scrape off the bottom front part of your car!
> >>What the f*ck is wrong with those morons at Honda????
> >
> > If you fix the nut behind the wheel, then this won't be a problem.
>
> I was figuring an electrical problem. Short between the steering wheel and
> the seat...

I suspect that everyone in this newsgroup could report complaints related
to various design problems related to various vehicles they have owned.
For example, I recently rented a Toyota Echo which is a really small and
light car that is even taller (high center of gravity) than my Honda
Accord. I was driving down the freeway and the wind almost blew the car
into another car in another lane. I read about a small BMW car that has
the speed odometer mounted in the center of the dashboard.

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