it was a pretty good one too.

 

some people's minds are so locked onto something that they
can't accept new input. that's wat this thread and the op
is describing.

nothing to be proud of.

but interesting to see the link. that's all.

 

um... i didn't even have to read it. i looked at both layout pix and the g's is the same as the fit just buttons instead of knobs. i don't get what the big deal is? other than what someone mentioned about the silverado vs tundra thing and the einstein quote. you got ac on ac off, fan more fan less, defrost front defrost rear, fresh air recirculated air, hot cold. am i missing something?

 

well i do have the option to turn off a/c in the defrost mode which
apparently is a big deal for some.

i dont see it that way cause defrost is not effective without a/c.

 

Maybe you meant all NEW cars?
Many older cars were not like this and it was wonderful...well it was for me anyway.:D Things didnt clear up as quickly but it was still quick-ish:D
and basically zero strain on the driveline.

 

you are aware that newer cars will shut off the a/c compressor when
you open up your throttle alittle more than 'normal' acceleration, right?

 

Rather off-tyopic, but does the G35 strike anyone else as a poser car? It has amazing performance, but it seems like 99% of people who drive them are business suit types with no interest in performance driving. The interior is good but definitely not best-in-class. In my mind, it's basically a poor man's BMW for middle managers and terminal cubicle dwellers who need to show off their relative well-off-ness (but not wealth). My whole image of G35 drivers is guys in Banana Republic shirts with those idiotic looking bluetooth earpieces at Starbucks. The other 5% of G35 drivers seems to be college kids who found good deals on them used, which is even worse for brand perception.

For performance, there's tons of better cars for $35k. For comfort, there's better cars even for $30k. For a good compromise, may as well step up to BMW.. unless you can't afford it.

One of the things that really drew me to the Fit was its "honesty". It's a very modest car that performs exactly what it is designed to do flawlessly. No showiness or superficiality. What your car says about you is important.

 

That's true for all luxury cars. Heck, that's true especially for trucks. Jesus. I think like only 20% of truck drivers use the truck bed. Everyone else has a small weinsteiner

 

All luxury cars are poser cars? No, because you actually use the luxury.. it's not like you don't SIT in leather seats or listen to the nice stereo! As opposed to the vast majority of G35 owners who never exploit the capabilities of the car, and it's only a mediocre status symbol with subpar interior as far as luxury cars go. Basically, it says "I wish I could afford a 330!".

I think BMW has done an awesome job of product differentiation. The 3 Series isn't a poor man's 5 or 7, it's a car that stands on its own. The C class is a poor man's S class, The XK is a poor man's Aston Martin, and the G35 is a poor man's BMW. That makes a big difference in brand perception.

As for function, the way I see it, if you are never going to use the performance of a luxury car, admit it to yourself and get a Lexus or Benz. That's also what makes the G35 a poser car, just like the urban cowboys and their huge useless pickup trucks. Bimmers at least see track time much more.

 

uhhhh....that really didnt have anything to do with what I said sorry...hmmm maybe I am just confused:confused:

I dont think that was the case in my 7th gen civic though, as it was noticeably slower and hesitated with the A/C on in all throttle positions and speeds (especially hard accel)
Anywho to keep in line with what you said though its still cumbersom as it noticeably strains my Fits engine in normal situations (not so concerned about flooring it) I have not really floored or accelerated hard with the A/C on (heck I have hardly even used the A/C in this car so far)

As far as the G35's go...around here there just seems to be younger ppl driving them. Like younger asian males 25-35 and they all haul a$$ round the bends....well ok and the straights too:rolleyes:

 

One of the best designer tools is to wear thick wool mittens and operate all controls. Radio, heating, lights, etc.
Good knobs outperform tiny little pushbuttons hands down. That's what the poster was commenting.
Those who 'design' by cuteness or fashion generally produce loser control panels.

 

One other quick reason why the A/C compressor runs with the defroster on. It gets the refrigerant (sp?) moving so the seals and hoses don't dry out and crack. That was the problem with older systems. I'm old enough to remember mechanics recommending people run the A/C a few times during the winter to prevent this from happening. Was a big contributor to freon loss and A/C failure. Now, you hardly ever hear about this anymore.

 

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