S2000 vs. G37 coupe
S2000 vs. G37 coupe
Hi there. I own a '97 Prelude that I will be looking to sell sometime next year...I know its a long way off...but just wondering what I should look at. I was pretty sure that I would go for an S2000...but I have always loved the G coupes too. I looked at other cars and still have it narrowed down to these 2 cars. I plan to keep this next car for a very long time and only put a few thousand miles per summer on it. I have to stop buying cars and save for a house soon. haha.
Id be looking at buying new. Just wondering if anyone has any feedback on the advantages and disadvantages with both cars. Oh and I plan on keeping my GD3 as my daily driver! :)
Id be looking at buying new. Just wondering if anyone has any feedback on the advantages and disadvantages with both cars. Oh and I plan on keeping my GD3 as my daily driver! :)
If you truely want a Sports car dont get the G37, and go with the S2K.
I always hang out at the G37forum, what ive learned over the past months is that car is a big heavy pig. It really is, it may not be slow but as far as handling it will handle like i heavy car. Most if not all people say that. Its not near as "Tossable" on a windy as a S2k or even the first gen G35c.
G37 will offer a totally diffrent element that the S2k cant offer though, and thats luxury and refinment. The G37 has a sick stock exhaust note, owners complain that they cant here form inside that car lol. Thats how sound deadened and refined that cabin is. It comes down to weather you want more luxury, or more sports car thrill.
If you do decide G, take a spin in a mint First gen just to compare. Alot of people say the power diffrence is very minimal. The G35c is a smaller lighter car.
Tyler
I always hang out at the G37forum, what ive learned over the past months is that car is a big heavy pig. It really is, it may not be slow but as far as handling it will handle like i heavy car. Most if not all people say that. Its not near as "Tossable" on a windy as a S2k or even the first gen G35c.
G37 will offer a totally diffrent element that the S2k cant offer though, and thats luxury and refinment. The G37 has a sick stock exhaust note, owners complain that they cant here form inside that car lol. Thats how sound deadened and refined that cabin is. It comes down to weather you want more luxury, or more sports car thrill.
If you do decide G, take a spin in a mint First gen just to compare. Alot of people say the power diffrence is very minimal. The G35c is a smaller lighter car.
Tyler
Excellent feedback! Thanks. I am looking for more sporty and fun to drive...I just thought the G would offer some of that. I heard a G37 pass on the highway and it did sound incredible! I also heard the G37 weighs more than 300kg than the S2000. I guess acceleration between the 2 would be similar. Sounds like the S2000 would be more fun to drive too...and it might be more desireable years down the road if its in pristine condition with low miles. :cool:
i would do the s2k if between those two. ever since infiniti screwed up
their design i stopped looking at the G37C's.
im a fan of the G35C though. it's a fun car to motor in. fast but not
too fast, powerful but not too powerful which makes it that much more
fun on the streets. not fun driving a fast car slow. it's a nice touring car
to do some spirited driving in and economical enough that it wont
break the bank even with mods. imho, still the best looking j-car in
the US.
their design i stopped looking at the G37C's.
im a fan of the G35C though. it's a fun car to motor in. fast but not
too fast, powerful but not too powerful which makes it that much more
fun on the streets. not fun driving a fast car slow. it's a nice touring car
to do some spirited driving in and economical enough that it wont
break the bank even with mods. imho, still the best looking j-car in
the US.
Might want to remember that the S2k is a old design. It was released in Japan and Europe in 1999. The car is dated. I have owned 2 S2k's. I owned a AP1 and AP2. I liked the AP2 bettter. Why not consider a 350z? They are a lot of fun to drive and for the most part inexpensive. If I was going to get another S2k I would buy a CR. Also consider the Accord 6-speed. They are faster than the current S2000 in a straightline for the average driver. They run 14 flats in the quarter mile and handle pretty well.:vtec:
Might want to remember that the S2k is a old design. It was released in Japan and Europe in 1999. The car is dated. I have owned 2 S2k's. I owned a AP1 and AP2. I liked the AP2 bettter. Why not consider a 350z? They are a lot of fun to drive and for the most part inexpensive. If I was going to get another S2k I would buy a CR. Also consider the Accord 6-speed. They are faster than the current S2000 in a straightline for the average driver. They run 14 flats in the quarter mile and handle pretty well.:vtec:
new accord is decently fast, but the handling is horrible... UNDERSTEER like a madman. Its a HEAVY car. Ive auto-x'd a 08 Coupe V6 6spd. S2ks have been known to break 13's in the quarter here in Cali stock. I am biased... but still I like the looks of the S better than the G37. G37 and the New Altima coupe look too much alike.
couple house down my street this man has a C6 Z06, G37s ( i think) G35, CTS-V all in red... when i ask him between the G35 and the G37 which one he like the most he said the G35 cause its so much better as far as the G37 its more for like dinner or nice drive down the beach sort of thing... now back to the topic i would say G37 even though its heavy as a pathfinder ( sarcastic) but its just as fun as the S2k and G35 IMO
i'm suprised that the g37 is not a drivers car....considering the bmw 335i was its target car.
and most reviews i have read on it have spoken on it favorably, but i can't really remember any commentary on its comparisons to the older g35.
As far as the s2k goes, it def is not as quick in a straightline, but its def a more driver oriented car.
despite this, i would HARDLY call the g37, or any G for that matter, boring.
and most reviews i have read on it have spoken on it favorably, but i can't really remember any commentary on its comparisons to the older g35.
As far as the s2k goes, it def is not as quick in a straightline, but its def a more driver oriented car.
despite this, i would HARDLY call the g37, or any G for that matter, boring.
i'm suprised that the g37 is not a drivers car....considering the bmw 335i was its target car.
and most reviews i have read on it have spoken on it favorably, but i can't really remember any commentary on its comparisons to the older g35.
As far as the s2k goes, it def is not as quick in a straightline, but its def a more driver oriented car.
despite this, i would HARDLY call the g37, or any G for that matter, boring.
and most reviews i have read on it have spoken on it favorably, but i can't really remember any commentary on its comparisons to the older g35.
As far as the s2k goes, it def is not as quick in a straightline, but its def a more driver oriented car.
despite this, i would HARDLY call the g37, or any G for that matter, boring.
new G35sedan. the new G's have better cornering stability with this
4wheel steering system they have, but not quite at the level of the
335i sedan.
gansan test drove the G37C and was happy with it all around, but
he complained that he could use a little more power and the flywheel
spin down wasn't fast enough to consider it a sports car. but overall
he was happy with it. i think it has something to do with drive by wire
and the rpm hang the ecu has.
ive seen the bestmotoring clip where they compared the G35C to the
new G35sedan. the new G's have better cornering stability with this
4wheel steering system they have, but not quite at the level of the
335i sedan.
gansan test drove the G37C and was happy with it all around, but
he complained that he could use a little more power and the flywheel
spin down wasn't fast enough to consider it a sports car. but overall
he was happy with it. i think it has something to do with drive by wire
and the rpm hang the ecu has.
new G35sedan. the new G's have better cornering stability with this
4wheel steering system they have, but not quite at the level of the
335i sedan.
gansan test drove the G37C and was happy with it all around, but
he complained that he could use a little more power and the flywheel
spin down wasn't fast enough to consider it a sports car. but overall
he was happy with it. i think it has something to do with drive by wire
and the rpm hang the ecu has.
ah ok. thanks for the info, i didn't realize dbw hang was an issue with the newer g's.
preludeguy: i did some investiagtion, and interestingly enough, i couldn't find any handling/skidpad numbers on the s2k, but i only checked edmunds. THe older ap1 s2k's with the 2.0 litre ran about 5.9-6.1 seconds 0-60, and the newer 2.2's do that same deed in about 5.6,5.5 seconds....which is the same time for the last g37s edmunds tested, which had the sport package and auto tranny.
that g ran a 13.9 second quarter mile and gripped at .86g's on the skidpad.
so they are probably more even as far as peformance goes than i originally thought! not to bad for a car that has been on the market for a lot longer! it certainly has aged well. though interior appointments/luxury/dd-ability go to the g.
Have you considered a 135i? I see that car in between the G37 and S2000, its small and kinda light, but with a fat turbo chagred 6. Handling isnt S2k handling, but i hear its better then the G's. I would just get a 135i Sport pack. and thats all. Your getting a nice sports car that will Haul! 0-60 in the LOW 5's.
Or even 335i coupe, but thats also a pretty refined heavy car. Still more of a drivers car then the G37 IMO. But a 335i is a pricey machine.
Tyler
Or even 335i coupe, but thats also a pretty refined heavy car. Still more of a drivers car then the G37 IMO. But a 335i is a pricey machine.
Tyler
TOOL- you cant just talk about a car by it specs. pretty much any car
out there would be a driver's car than your Fit if looking at numbers,
but we all know it's not.
majority of the end users that complain about weight or size of these
cars imho do not know how to drive FR all that well and just not
accustomed to the size. once you get use to it it's really no different
than driving a smaller car. you just have to be able to adapt to the
size.
think of it this way... bigger and heavier, but it's in proportion. there's
still much room before you hit the physics' limit on street.
if you listen to professional drivers they will usually say the G and 335i's
are well behaving cars, including the G37's. in fact, from wat i hear,
the G37's have better lap times than S2k's in bestmotoring. PROPORTION
is the key.
im just not happy with the G37C's styling. as a car, i think nissan did a
great job.
out there would be a driver's car than your Fit if looking at numbers,
but we all know it's not.
majority of the end users that complain about weight or size of these
cars imho do not know how to drive FR all that well and just not
accustomed to the size. once you get use to it it's really no different
than driving a smaller car. you just have to be able to adapt to the
size.
think of it this way... bigger and heavier, but it's in proportion. there's
still much room before you hit the physics' limit on street.
if you listen to professional drivers they will usually say the G and 335i's
are well behaving cars, including the G37's. in fact, from wat i hear,
the G37's have better lap times than S2k's in bestmotoring. PROPORTION
is the key.
im just not happy with the G37C's styling. as a car, i think nissan did a
great job.
i like the 135i as well, but that is a car that gets real pricey, real fast. it does have a killer engine though, but its a very confined car, and if you are ok with that, then your are golden. imo, the styling is much better than the g37s, even if it is a bit bangalized.
its actually kinda hard comparing these, simply because two are upmarket sport coupes, while the other is a roadster.
and i agree with kenchan on the heaviness, i think if any of us got to actually drive these machines, there would be no complaint at all! (i personally have not driven any of them.)
its actually kinda hard comparing these, simply because two are upmarket sport coupes, while the other is a roadster.
and i agree with kenchan on the heaviness, i think if any of us got to actually drive these machines, there would be no complaint at all! (i personally have not driven any of them.)
I tried getting over BMW's and I did... Until i test drove a used 2004 545i! Even in the gigantic sedan, the car felt so quick and small! Although the BMW will be kinda high for insurance and maintenance, the feeling when you drive it is sick. I also enjoy the high quality of the paint, interior, and engine! Quick as hell too!
I would recommend looking at these awesome BMW models:
135i coupe/convertible: 300hp/300tq 3.0L Inline-6 twin-turbo
compact car, 4 seater. 6 speed auto or 6 speed manual
335i Coupe or Sedan: same engine, sedan is 5 seater and coupe is 4
same tranny options. Hard top coupe also available!
Z4///M Roadster or Coupe: 330hp/???tq 3.2L Inline-6. 2 seater, 6 speed manual
the 1 and 3 are also available with a slower engine, a different 3 liter inline-6 with 230 hp.
The Z4 has non-///M or sport models. The coupe is actually like a hatchback version of the roadster and IMO looks super-sexy! the coupe is also avail. with a 3.0L I-6 that produces 255hp and the roadster has that engine AND the 3.0L I-6 that puts out 230hp.
There is also an ///M3 Sedan and Coupe. Both come with a 4.0L V-8 that produces 400+hp and redlines at 8250rpm! mated to a 6-speed manual gearbox. And the coupe version has a Carbon Fiber roof panel!
If you care about Limited Slip Differential, only the M cars have them. And the M3 has gadgets that allow you to set the diff to various settings!
So to summarize, i talked about the 128/135i coupe/convertible
the 328/335i coupe/hard-top/sedan
the Z4///M Coupe and Roadster
and the Z4 Roadster (3.0i & 3.0si) and Coupe (3.0si)
All of the non-M cars
Hahaha i knew everything except for the 3.0si and 3.0i part on the Z4 memorized in my head... I LOVE BMWs, my mom has a 2003 330i. I'd like them a lot more if they didn't have to cost so much and break down often. Well my mom's car never broke down but it did get minor issues. Good thing though the warranty covers ANYTHING wrong with the car for 4 years/60,000 miles. Dunno if they still offer that but im sure it's still very good warranty.
Please check one out since i just spend my time typing all this non-sense down :D
I would recommend looking at these awesome BMW models:
135i coupe/convertible: 300hp/300tq 3.0L Inline-6 twin-turbo
compact car, 4 seater. 6 speed auto or 6 speed manual
335i Coupe or Sedan: same engine, sedan is 5 seater and coupe is 4
same tranny options. Hard top coupe also available!
Z4///M Roadster or Coupe: 330hp/???tq 3.2L Inline-6. 2 seater, 6 speed manual
the 1 and 3 are also available with a slower engine, a different 3 liter inline-6 with 230 hp.
The Z4 has non-///M or sport models. The coupe is actually like a hatchback version of the roadster and IMO looks super-sexy! the coupe is also avail. with a 3.0L I-6 that produces 255hp and the roadster has that engine AND the 3.0L I-6 that puts out 230hp.
There is also an ///M3 Sedan and Coupe. Both come with a 4.0L V-8 that produces 400+hp and redlines at 8250rpm! mated to a 6-speed manual gearbox. And the coupe version has a Carbon Fiber roof panel!
If you care about Limited Slip Differential, only the M cars have them. And the M3 has gadgets that allow you to set the diff to various settings!
So to summarize, i talked about the 128/135i coupe/convertible
the 328/335i coupe/hard-top/sedan
the Z4///M Coupe and Roadster
and the Z4 Roadster (3.0i & 3.0si) and Coupe (3.0si)
All of the non-M cars
Hahaha i knew everything except for the 3.0si and 3.0i part on the Z4 memorized in my head... I LOVE BMWs, my mom has a 2003 330i. I'd like them a lot more if they didn't have to cost so much and break down often. Well my mom's car never broke down but it did get minor issues. Good thing though the warranty covers ANYTHING wrong with the car for 4 years/60,000 miles. Dunno if they still offer that but im sure it's still very good warranty.
Please check one out since i just spend my time typing all this non-sense down :D
I love my S2000 to death and wouldn't trade it for anything short of an Elise or Cayman S. (though I've been toying around with the 135i idea)
When I was shopping around, I tested the 350Z/G35, and both had excellent acceleration, great handling, very nice brakes and lots of torque for daily driving. The interior fit and finish on both were terrible, though the G37 does HUGELY improve on this. I would actually prefer the new G35 sedan over the G37 coupe.
However, my near-stock S2000 (coilovers, tires, brake pads and lines) eats them alive on the track. The new G37's put up a bit more of a fight.
When I was shopping around, I tested the 350Z/G35, and both had excellent acceleration, great handling, very nice brakes and lots of torque for daily driving. The interior fit and finish on both were terrible, though the G37 does HUGELY improve on this. I would actually prefer the new G35 sedan over the G37 coupe.
However, my near-stock S2000 (coilovers, tires, brake pads and lines) eats them alive on the track. The new G37's put up a bit more of a fight.
TOOL- you cant just talk about a car by it specs. pretty much any car
out there would be a driver's car than your Fit if looking at numbers,
but we all know it's not.
majority of the end users that complain about weight or size of these
cars imho do not know how to drive FR all that well and just not
accustomed to the size. once you get use to it it's really no different
than driving a smaller car. you just have to be able to adapt to the
size.
think of it this way... bigger and heavier, but it's in proportion. there's
still much room before you hit the physics' limit on street.
if you listen to professional drivers they will usually say the G and 335i's
are well behaving cars, including the G37's. in fact, from wat i hear,
the G37's have better lap times than S2k's in bestmotoring. PROPORTION
is the key.
im just not happy with the G37C's styling. as a car, i think nissan did a
great job.
out there would be a driver's car than your Fit if looking at numbers,
but we all know it's not.
majority of the end users that complain about weight or size of these
cars imho do not know how to drive FR all that well and just not
accustomed to the size. once you get use to it it's really no different
than driving a smaller car. you just have to be able to adapt to the
size.
think of it this way... bigger and heavier, but it's in proportion. there's
still much room before you hit the physics' limit on street.
if you listen to professional drivers they will usually say the G and 335i's
are well behaving cars, including the G37's. in fact, from wat i hear,
the G37's have better lap times than S2k's in bestmotoring. PROPORTION
is the key.
im just not happy with the G37C's styling. as a car, i think nissan did a
great job.



