Antifreeze issue
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Re: Antifreeze issue
"Mike S." <retsuhcs@xinap.moc> wrote
> SoCalMike <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Mike S. wrote:
> >> At first I feared they had used an old Prestone-like silicate formula
....
> >> but in view of the above perhaps it isn't. On Monday I'm going to call
> >> them and see if I can ascertain exactly what they did put in my
radiator.
> >
> >i definately would. chances are, theyre using the lowest-priced bulk
> >stuff they can get. id guess thatd be regular prestone, with all them
> >phosphates that are bad for hondas.
>
> I called Firestone. They tell me the green antifreeze they install is
> DexCool. As I understand this is organic-acid based.
I'm not finding any support on the net for Dexcool being green. Make them
tell you the exact brandname.
Firestone: Years ago I used them, but in hindsight, they did not do a good
job. Maybe I'd trust them for an oil change or new tires, at most.
> SoCalMike <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Mike S. wrote:
> >> At first I feared they had used an old Prestone-like silicate formula
....
> >> but in view of the above perhaps it isn't. On Monday I'm going to call
> >> them and see if I can ascertain exactly what they did put in my
radiator.
> >
> >i definately would. chances are, theyre using the lowest-priced bulk
> >stuff they can get. id guess thatd be regular prestone, with all them
> >phosphates that are bad for hondas.
>
> I called Firestone. They tell me the green antifreeze they install is
> DexCool. As I understand this is organic-acid based.
I'm not finding any support on the net for Dexcool being green. Make them
tell you the exact brandname.
Firestone: Years ago I used them, but in hindsight, they did not do a good
job. Maybe I'd trust them for an oil change or new tires, at most.
#22
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Re: Antifreeze issue
In article <QCQ2f.1466$y14.211@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.n et>,
Elle <elle_navorski@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
>"Mike S." <retsuhcs@xinap.moc> wrote
>> SoCalMike <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >Mike S. wrote:
>> >> At first I feared they had used an old Prestone-like silicate formula
>...
>> >> but in view of the above perhaps it isn't. On Monday I'm going to call
>> >> them and see if I can ascertain exactly what they did put in my
>radiator.
>> >
>> >i definately would. chances are, theyre using the lowest-priced bulk
>> >stuff they can get. id guess thatd be regular prestone, with all them
>> >phosphates that are bad for hondas.
>>
>> I called Firestone. They tell me the green antifreeze they install is
>> DexCool. As I understand this is organic-acid based.
>
>I'm not finding any support on the net for Dexcool being green. Make them
>tell you the exact brandname.
I can't find support for that either, except for comments that you can't
make conclusions based on color.
Firestone says the stuff if marked "Advanced A Plus".
>Firestone: Years ago I used them, but in hindsight, they did not do a good
>job. Maybe I'd trust them for an oil change or new tires, at most.
In retrospect it was a mistake. I'm just trying to firugre out what, if
anything, to do now ... and how soon.
#23
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Re: Antifreeze issue
"Mike S." <retsuhcs@xinap.moc> wrote
> Elle <elle_navorski@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
> >"Mike S." <retsuhcs@xinap.moc> wrote
> >> SoCalMike <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >Mike S. wrote:
> >> >> At first I feared they had used an old Prestone-like silicate
formula
> >...
> >> >> but in view of the above perhaps it isn't. On Monday I'm going to
call
> >> >> them and see if I can ascertain exactly what they did put in my
> >radiator.
> >> >
> >> >i definately would. chances are, theyre using the lowest-priced bulk
> >> >stuff they can get. id guess thatd be regular prestone, with all them
> >> >phosphates that are bad for hondas.
> >>
> >> I called Firestone. They tell me the green antifreeze they install is
> >> DexCool. As I understand this is organic-acid based.
> >
> >I'm not finding any support on the net for Dexcool being green. Make them
> >tell you the exact brandname.
>
> I can't find support for that either, except for comments that you can't
> make conclusions based on color.
I myself wouldn't say that so quickly. The color coding is there for a
reason.
> Firestone says the stuff if marked "Advanced A Plus".
Huh. I guess you googled already. I myself found nothing on the net on this
stuff.
> >Firestone: Years ago I used them, but in hindsight, they did not do a
good
> >job. Maybe I'd trust them for an oil change or new tires, at most.
>
> In retrospect it was a mistake. I'm just trying to firugre out what, if
> anything, to do now ... and how soon.
Want to try a drain and fill yourself?
It's really no harder than an oil change...
I figure if you do something within a month, no serious damage will result.
> Elle <elle_navorski@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
> >"Mike S." <retsuhcs@xinap.moc> wrote
> >> SoCalMike <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >Mike S. wrote:
> >> >> At first I feared they had used an old Prestone-like silicate
formula
> >...
> >> >> but in view of the above perhaps it isn't. On Monday I'm going to
call
> >> >> them and see if I can ascertain exactly what they did put in my
> >radiator.
> >> >
> >> >i definately would. chances are, theyre using the lowest-priced bulk
> >> >stuff they can get. id guess thatd be regular prestone, with all them
> >> >phosphates that are bad for hondas.
> >>
> >> I called Firestone. They tell me the green antifreeze they install is
> >> DexCool. As I understand this is organic-acid based.
> >
> >I'm not finding any support on the net for Dexcool being green. Make them
> >tell you the exact brandname.
>
> I can't find support for that either, except for comments that you can't
> make conclusions based on color.
I myself wouldn't say that so quickly. The color coding is there for a
reason.
> Firestone says the stuff if marked "Advanced A Plus".
Huh. I guess you googled already. I myself found nothing on the net on this
stuff.
> >Firestone: Years ago I used them, but in hindsight, they did not do a
good
> >job. Maybe I'd trust them for an oil change or new tires, at most.
>
> In retrospect it was a mistake. I'm just trying to firugre out what, if
> anything, to do now ... and how soon.
Want to try a drain and fill yourself?
It's really no harder than an oil change...
I figure if you do something within a month, no serious damage will result.
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Re: Antifreeze issue
Last time I went to my dealer in Steinbach Manitoba they asked me whether I
needed type I or type II coolant. I had no idea, so I made them look it up.
My 98 civic takes type I, which means it takes any generic coolant. So they
sold me a jug of NAPA green stuff.
t
TeGGeR® wrote:
>> You can get Honda premixed or not. They sell both.
>
>Not around here (Peoples' Republic of Kanada). Premix or nothing.
>
>Your Mileage, as the old saw goes, May Vary. Ask your dealer.
>
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needed type I or type II coolant. I had no idea, so I made them look it up.
My 98 civic takes type I, which means it takes any generic coolant. So they
sold me a jug of NAPA green stuff.
t
TeGGeR® wrote:
>> You can get Honda premixed or not. They sell both.
>
>Not around here (Peoples' Republic of Kanada). Premix or nothing.
>
>Your Mileage, as the old saw goes, May Vary. Ask your dealer.
>
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Re: Antifreeze issue
"T L via CarKB.com" <u10197@uwe> wrote in news:55b0b82efb372@uwe:
> Last time I went to my dealer in Steinbach Manitoba they asked me
> whether I needed type I or type II coolant. I had no idea, so I made
> them look it up. My 98 civic takes type I, which means it takes any
> generic coolant. So they sold me a jug of NAPA green stuff.
But was it LONG LIFE "generic green stuff", or was it the old-style
silicated stuff?
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> Last time I went to my dealer in Steinbach Manitoba they asked me
> whether I needed type I or type II coolant. I had no idea, so I made
> them look it up. My 98 civic takes type I, which means it takes any
> generic coolant. So they sold me a jug of NAPA green stuff.
But was it LONG LIFE "generic green stuff", or was it the old-style
silicated stuff?
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Not sure Tegger, suppose its silly but I trusted the dealer when they said
"Here use this stuff". I don't think its long life, whatever that means. I
just chucked the bottle out the other day too. Crap.
A while ago i talked to a different dealer, they told me that the antifreeze
was meant to last the life of the vehicle. And the brake fluid and clutch
fluid too.
That time I didn't just listen blindly, I found a different dealer.... :)
t
TeGGeR® wrote:
>> Last time I went to my dealer in Steinbach Manitoba they asked me
>> whether I needed type I or type II coolant. I had no idea, so I made
>> them look it up. My 98 civic takes type I, which means it takes any
>> generic coolant. So they sold me a jug of NAPA green stuff.
>
>But was it LONG LIFE "generic green stuff", or was it the old-style
>silicated stuff?
>
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"Here use this stuff". I don't think its long life, whatever that means. I
just chucked the bottle out the other day too. Crap.
A while ago i talked to a different dealer, they told me that the antifreeze
was meant to last the life of the vehicle. And the brake fluid and clutch
fluid too.
That time I didn't just listen blindly, I found a different dealer.... :)
t
TeGGeR® wrote:
>> Last time I went to my dealer in Steinbach Manitoba they asked me
>> whether I needed type I or type II coolant. I had no idea, so I made
>> them look it up. My 98 civic takes type I, which means it takes any
>> generic coolant. So they sold me a jug of NAPA green stuff.
>
>But was it LONG LIFE "generic green stuff", or was it the old-style
>silicated stuff?
>
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Re: Antifreeze issue
T L via CarKB.com wrote:
> Not sure Tegger, suppose its silly but I trusted the dealer when they said
> "Here use this stuff". I don't think its long life, whatever that means. I
> just chucked the bottle out the other day too. Crap.
>
> A while ago i talked to a different dealer, they told me that the antifreeze
> was meant to last the life of the vehicle. And the brake fluid and clutch
> fluid too.
>
> That time I didn't just listen blindly, I found a different dealer.... :)
no kidding! smart move...
>
> t
>
> TeGGeR® wrote:
>
>>>Last time I went to my dealer in Steinbach Manitoba they asked me
>>>whether I needed type I or type II coolant. I had no idea, so I made
>>>them look it up. My 98 civic takes type I, which means it takes any
>>>generic coolant. So they sold me a jug of NAPA green stuff.
>>
>>But was it LONG LIFE "generic green stuff", or was it the old-style
>>silicated stuff?
>>
>
>
>
> Not sure Tegger, suppose its silly but I trusted the dealer when they said
> "Here use this stuff". I don't think its long life, whatever that means. I
> just chucked the bottle out the other day too. Crap.
>
> A while ago i talked to a different dealer, they told me that the antifreeze
> was meant to last the life of the vehicle. And the brake fluid and clutch
> fluid too.
>
> That time I didn't just listen blindly, I found a different dealer.... :)
no kidding! smart move...
>
> t
>
> TeGGeR® wrote:
>
>>>Last time I went to my dealer in Steinbach Manitoba they asked me
>>>whether I needed type I or type II coolant. I had no idea, so I made
>>>them look it up. My 98 civic takes type I, which means it takes any
>>>generic coolant. So they sold me a jug of NAPA green stuff.
>>
>>But was it LONG LIFE "generic green stuff", or was it the old-style
>>silicated stuff?
>>
>
>
>
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Re: Antifreeze issue
"T L via CarKB.com" <u10197@uwe> wrote in news:55d42c39019a0@uwe:
> Not sure Tegger, suppose its silly but I trusted the dealer when they
> said "Here use this stuff". I don't think its long life, whatever
> that means. I just chucked the bottle out the other day too. Crap.
>
> A while ago i talked to a different dealer, they told me that the
> antifreeze was meant to last the life of the vehicle.
They told you that and they have a Honda franchise???
> And the brake
> fluid and clutch fluid too.
They told you that and they have a Honda franchise???
>
> That time I didn't just listen blindly, I found a different dealer....
> :)
Damn straight. They're f***ed in the head.
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www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
> Not sure Tegger, suppose its silly but I trusted the dealer when they
> said "Here use this stuff". I don't think its long life, whatever
> that means. I just chucked the bottle out the other day too. Crap.
>
> A while ago i talked to a different dealer, they told me that the
> antifreeze was meant to last the life of the vehicle.
They told you that and they have a Honda franchise???
> And the brake
> fluid and clutch fluid too.
They told you that and they have a Honda franchise???
>
> That time I didn't just listen blindly, I found a different dealer....
> :)
Damn straight. They're f***ed in the head.
--
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The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
#29
I know that these posts are old ones, but I need to know about this antifreeze issue for my '09 Fit. When cold, the level is very low. I called the dealer and he said that this was normal. He also said to check the level when then engine was hot. He warned me to avoid mixing generic coolants and that I should just refill with the Honda brand. How much of this is true?
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