Saturn Astra (Opel, Vauxhall, Holden, Chevvy)
#1
Saturn Astra (Opel, Vauxhall, Holden, Chevvy)
So Saturn will soon start importing the Belgian-built Opel Astra. Considering the total bomb their last rebadged Opel was, I can't see why (although my uncle had one and it was really nice) but apparently GM wants Saturn to be its low-end European brand in America now. I don't get GM - they sell a rebadged Subaru and Chevvy at Saab (but got rid of hatchbacks), European cars at Saturn and boring cars everywhere.
There doesn't seem to be a sedan version of the current Astra, so I'm guessing the Saturn will be a hatch. Kinda like a toned-down Caliber, it will start at $16K
There doesn't seem to be a sedan version of the current Astra, so I'm guessing the Saturn will be a hatch. Kinda like a toned-down Caliber, it will start at $16K
#4
BTW thats not the Astra, thats the Vauxhall Zafira...same thing though, since Vauxhall's are rebadged Opel's...or is it the other way around? BAH! Either way, I think this is a step in the right direction for Saturn and GM. At least European cars are 10x better than American ones. In England, there is a line called the Vauxhall VXR's which is like the performance oriented models of all of their cars. Hopefully they will bring those over as well and badge them as the Red Lines. Quick, peppy, and fast cars that handle quite well...I think they are bringing in the Vectra too...
#7
Don't agree that European cars are "10 x better than American ones". Consumer reports does not either. Actually, all European models are horrible in reliability (Mercedes, BMW, etc). So get off your high horse.
#8
Originally Posted by dave2343ee
Astra VXR
* 2.0 16v Turbo
* 240 BHP
* 0-60 6.2 seconds
* Top Speed 152mph
* 18" VXR Wheels
* Centre Rear Exhaust Outlet
* Unique Exterior Styling Kit
* Recaro Sports Seats (Part Leather)
* 2.0 16v Turbo
* 240 BHP
* 0-60 6.2 seconds
* Top Speed 152mph
* 18" VXR Wheels
* Centre Rear Exhaust Outlet
* Unique Exterior Styling Kit
* Recaro Sports Seats (Part Leather)
#10
Here are a couple of articles from Edmunds.com regarding the Astra. The Astra will hit the U.S. in November and will be available as a 3-door and 5-door hatchback. Enjoy.
First Drive: 2007 Opel Astra
2008 Saturn Astra
First Drive: 2007 Opel Astra
2008 Saturn Astra
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#12
This car is a Vauxhall Astra. The Zafria is the MPV (mini-van?) version. Interesting that this has cropped up as here in England, the Jazz/Fit and Astra don't compete in the same market.
Vauxhall and Opel used to be run by GM as seperate companies producing different cars. But in the last 30 years or so, the two have been merged and Vauxhall's are really just rebadged Opel's these days. Presumably, it's a way to convince buyers the cars are 'British'. Even in the Republic of Ireland and Cyprus (both right-hand drive markets), the cars are sold as Opel and not Vauxhall. The upshot though is that we get the Holden-designed and built Vauxhall VXR 8- the rest of Europe don't get this high performance sedan as Holden doesn't produce a left-hand drive version (please correct me if that's wrong). I think there was never an Opel version of the old Holden/Vauxhall Monaro coupe either, even though I understand this car was sold in LHD form as a Pontiac GTO in the states.
Anyway, the Vauxhall brand should be dropped, badge the cars as Opel and use Holden for the VXR versions of Astra, Vectra, etc. I may have suggested GM use the Chevrolet brand, but since 2004 this has been used on all former Daewoo models. Ironic that GM's budget Korean brand has a more desirable brand then it's mainstream offering!
Vauxhall and Opel used to be run by GM as seperate companies producing different cars. But in the last 30 years or so, the two have been merged and Vauxhall's are really just rebadged Opel's these days. Presumably, it's a way to convince buyers the cars are 'British'. Even in the Republic of Ireland and Cyprus (both right-hand drive markets), the cars are sold as Opel and not Vauxhall. The upshot though is that we get the Holden-designed and built Vauxhall VXR 8- the rest of Europe don't get this high performance sedan as Holden doesn't produce a left-hand drive version (please correct me if that's wrong). I think there was never an Opel version of the old Holden/Vauxhall Monaro coupe either, even though I understand this car was sold in LHD form as a Pontiac GTO in the states.
Anyway, the Vauxhall brand should be dropped, badge the cars as Opel and use Holden for the VXR versions of Astra, Vectra, etc. I may have suggested GM use the Chevrolet brand, but since 2004 this has been used on all former Daewoo models. Ironic that GM's budget Korean brand has a more desirable brand then it's mainstream offering!
Last edited by terryb; 08-23-2007 at 04:48 PM.
#13
I agree, Vauxhall was simply kept alive to sell the British brand in England. I would prefer to see Opel take the forefront and Holden taking all of the performance cars. My bad on the Astra/Zafira, but I swear I saw a different picture haha. Anyways, like you said the new Holden VXR8 looks like a beast! It is the underpinnings of the new Chevrolet Impala. I would say the VXR8 will turn out to be the Chevy Impala SS. Chevy is moving in the same direction as they did with the Monaro/GTO.
Honestly, Chevy should just drop Vauxhall AND Saturn and either put it under their own brand name or conglomerate them into one like Opel.
Honestly, Chevy should just drop Vauxhall AND Saturn and either put it under their own brand name or conglomerate them into one like Opel.
#16
yea pretty much. but we still got the problem of over pricing the vehicles. we're getting in tons of new models, we get the new camaro in before the end of this year
#17
You think you got pricing problems, you should see the prices up here! I cross checked a top of the line Audi A4 with Quattro and 3.2L engine...used the proper exchange rate at the time, and it came in $10,000.00+ cheaper in the states than in Canada...all I can say is my next car is gonna be bought south of the border :)
BTW, how much will the Camaro be?
BTW, how much will the Camaro be?
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