Goverment required back-up cameras on all cars
#1
Goverment required back-up cameras on all cars
Heard about this on the Today Show this morning.
I think its stupid for small cars like the Fit. I can see them on SUV's... majority of SUV drivers can't drive anyways.
DailyTech - Government Regulations to Require Backup Cameras on All New Vehicles by 2014
I think its stupid for small cars like the Fit. I can see them on SUV's... majority of SUV drivers can't drive anyways.
DailyTech - Government Regulations to Require Backup Cameras on All New Vehicles by 2014
#4
Like TPMS or even anti-lock brakes...it's hard to argue that back-up camera's don't make things safer.
What I don't like is if the government makes them mandatory, it's just going to increase the production costs of all automobiles. Back Up Camera means a screen to view it...and the cost of the camera itself.
There is really no New Vehicle options for working class poor as it is, and even for middle class America the cost of driving a new vehicle continues to increase.
The luxury of any new vehicle is going to become that more exclusive.
I don't know. I'm all for safety and moving forward with advancement. BUT I'm resistant to governments telling me what I must have, and I would like to see more affordable, reliable, quality options for new vehicles for people with limited income. Unfortunately often the people that could most benefit from having reliable personal transportation, just to get to work and survive...are the ones forced to take the bus or limp along with old used cars...which they constantly have to pour time and money into...
I just know 20 years ago, I drove off a auto lot in a brand new Pick-Up with 6 miles on it, for less than $8000. It wasn't fancy...no airbags..no anti-lock brakes..no TPMS...infact no stereo...I installed one later....BUT it was reliable transportation and utility for 10 years that was pretty affordable from new.
Today? Entry level, economy choices for automobiles are getting pretty expensive. I would just hope that purchasing a new automobile, doesn't become the exclusive realm of only the rich.
What I don't like is if the government makes them mandatory, it's just going to increase the production costs of all automobiles. Back Up Camera means a screen to view it...and the cost of the camera itself.
There is really no New Vehicle options for working class poor as it is, and even for middle class America the cost of driving a new vehicle continues to increase.
The luxury of any new vehicle is going to become that more exclusive.
I don't know. I'm all for safety and moving forward with advancement. BUT I'm resistant to governments telling me what I must have, and I would like to see more affordable, reliable, quality options for new vehicles for people with limited income. Unfortunately often the people that could most benefit from having reliable personal transportation, just to get to work and survive...are the ones forced to take the bus or limp along with old used cars...which they constantly have to pour time and money into...
I just know 20 years ago, I drove off a auto lot in a brand new Pick-Up with 6 miles on it, for less than $8000. It wasn't fancy...no airbags..no anti-lock brakes..no TPMS...infact no stereo...I installed one later....BUT it was reliable transportation and utility for 10 years that was pretty affordable from new.
Today? Entry level, economy choices for automobiles are getting pretty expensive. I would just hope that purchasing a new automobile, doesn't become the exclusive realm of only the rich.
#6
separate license tests for different car segments seem necessary too. one for compact cars, trucks, suv's, etc. if yuppie soccer mom can't pass the suv test then she'd better get her ass in a wagon... less accidents = lower insurance rates. make it happen, washington.
#7
Like TPMS or even anti-lock brakes...it's hard to argue that back-up camera's don't make things safer.
What I don't like is if the government makes them mandatory, it's just going to increase the production costs of all automobiles. Back Up Camera means a screen to view it...and the cost of the camera itself.
There is really no New Vehicle options for working class poor as it is, and even for middle class America the cost of driving a new vehicle continues to increase.
The luxury of any new vehicle is going to become that more exclusive.
I don't know. I'm all for safety and moving forward with advancement. BUT I'm resistant to governments telling me what I must have, and I would like to see more affordable, reliable, quality options for new vehicles for people with limited income. Unfortunately often the people that could most benefit from having reliable personal transportation, just to get to work and survive...are the ones forced to take the bus or limp along with old used cars...which they constantly have to pour time and money into...
I just know 20 years ago, I drove off a auto lot in a brand new Pick-Up with 6 miles on it, for less than $8000. It wasn't fancy...no airbags..no anti-lock brakes..no TPMS...infact no stereo...I installed one later....BUT it was reliable transportation and utility for 10 years that was pretty affordable from new.
Today? Entry level, economy choices for automobiles are getting pretty expensive. I would just hope that purchasing a new automobile, doesn't become the exclusive realm of only the rich.
What I don't like is if the government makes them mandatory, it's just going to increase the production costs of all automobiles. Back Up Camera means a screen to view it...and the cost of the camera itself.
There is really no New Vehicle options for working class poor as it is, and even for middle class America the cost of driving a new vehicle continues to increase.
The luxury of any new vehicle is going to become that more exclusive.
I don't know. I'm all for safety and moving forward with advancement. BUT I'm resistant to governments telling me what I must have, and I would like to see more affordable, reliable, quality options for new vehicles for people with limited income. Unfortunately often the people that could most benefit from having reliable personal transportation, just to get to work and survive...are the ones forced to take the bus or limp along with old used cars...which they constantly have to pour time and money into...
I just know 20 years ago, I drove off a auto lot in a brand new Pick-Up with 6 miles on it, for less than $8000. It wasn't fancy...no airbags..no anti-lock brakes..no TPMS...infact no stereo...I installed one later....BUT it was reliable transportation and utility for 10 years that was pretty affordable from new.
Today? Entry level, economy choices for automobiles are getting pretty expensive. I would just hope that purchasing a new automobile, doesn't become the exclusive realm of only the rich.
#8
I can remember looking at a really nice Ford Pickup in 1973 for $3600. I bought one in 1979 that was similarly equipped for $6500... In 1982 the same truck was up to $12500... It has been uphill since.... Money is created out of the thin air with nothing but the interest rates owed backing it instead of precious metals so the rate of inflation is out of control while education becomes unobtainable and wages for the working class is slow to keep up... Technology is relatively cheap with all of the outsourcing to foreign countries that use prison labor for a lot of products and with the war on drugs and privatized correctional facilities in the U.S. now and drugs coming in from other countries by way of corporate owned means, the same practice is becoming common even here.... I like the idea of cleaning up the aerodynamics of vehicles by using cameras instead of huge wind catching rear view mirrors but I don't like this New World Order thing that is dividing the wealth by creating criminals from the people that aren't able to run with the criminals at the top.
#9
How much is a trillion anything - a whole lot when we owe most of it to a communist country...
Interesting how people are so easily fooled into thinking it's what they want - corporate marketing 101, make 'em think they gotta have it.
You know it is our fault 1 in 6 are out of work - we aren't spending enough money...
#10
that's exactly how i feel. i'd rather the government enforce a more strict driver's license test and include a testing fee than this shit...
separate license tests for different car segments seem necessary too. one for compact cars, trucks, suv's, etc. if yuppie soccer mom can't pass the suv test then she'd better get her ass in a wagon... less accidents = lower insurance rates. make it happen, washington.
separate license tests for different car segments seem necessary too. one for compact cars, trucks, suv's, etc. if yuppie soccer mom can't pass the suv test then she'd better get her ass in a wagon... less accidents = lower insurance rates. make it happen, washington.
#12
So what happens when the camera fails? Takes all responsibility away from the driver & opens the door to more lawsuits. Soon automobile manufacturers will need something similar to malpractice insurance.
Sad Story -One of my friends knew a contractor who had a great big truck. A year later she found out he had run over and killed his 2 year old son. He thought the wife was watching him, she thought he was. :(
Rear view camera may or may not have helped--what if you aren't paying attention to the camera and just barrel on out?
Sad Story -One of my friends knew a contractor who had a great big truck. A year later she found out he had run over and killed his 2 year old son. He thought the wife was watching him, she thought he was. :(
Rear view camera may or may not have helped--what if you aren't paying attention to the camera and just barrel on out?
#13
I wouldn't consider TPMS or back cameras safety features...they are features for people who suck at driving and are to lazy to check their tire pressure regularly. Now anti-lock is a true safety feature. I'm so glad my Fit didn't come with TPMS because disabling it would have been the first mod on my list...lol
#14
i'd rather the government enforce a more strict driver's license test and include a testing fee than this shit...
separate license tests for different car segments seem necessary too. one for compact cars, trucks, suv's, etc. if yuppie soccer mom can't pass the suv test then she'd better get her ass in a wagon... less accidents = lower insurance rates. make it happen, washington.
separate license tests for different car segments seem necessary too. one for compact cars, trucks, suv's, etc. if yuppie soccer mom can't pass the suv test then she'd better get her ass in a wagon... less accidents = lower insurance rates. make it happen, washington.
#15
From the Article:
It sounds far more reasonable like that - no need for backup cameras if you design the car well. If you insist on putting form over function, you'd better have some additional function added on.
"Auto manufacturers can get around the requirement by adhering to improved rear visibility requirements handed down by the DoT, but with current car design trending towards making outward visibility an afterthought, it's believed that most car manufacturers will go the backup camera route instead."
#17
Making safer cars does not make safer drivers. It doesn't matter how safe a car is... if you put an idiot behind it, bad things happen.
I'd rather have SAFE EDUCATED DRIVERS than have an IDIOT-PROOF-CARS running around.
EDIT: sorry if you see me using the "idiot" word too much... it's just I have been in a couple accidents that were caused by idiots behind the wheel. It may not be my fault but in a no-fault state... your f*ckd either way.
I'd rather have SAFE EDUCATED DRIVERS than have an IDIOT-PROOF-CARS running around.
EDIT: sorry if you see me using the "idiot" word too much... it's just I have been in a couple accidents that were caused by idiots behind the wheel. It may not be my fault but in a no-fault state... your f*ckd either way.
Last edited by ThEvil0nE; 12-03-2010 at 08:31 PM.
#18
that's exactly how i feel. i'd rather the government enforce a more strict driver's license test and include a testing fee than this shit...
separate license tests for different car segments seem necessary too. one for compact cars, trucks, suv's, etc. if yuppie soccer mom can't pass the suv test then she'd better get her ass in a wagon... less accidents = lower insurance rates. make it happen, washington.
separate license tests for different car segments seem necessary too. one for compact cars, trucks, suv's, etc. if yuppie soccer mom can't pass the suv test then she'd better get her ass in a wagon... less accidents = lower insurance rates. make it happen, washington.
We need to adopt the driving test Finland has :D
#19
I wouldn't consider TPMS or back cameras safety features...they are features for people who suck at driving and are to lazy to check their tire pressure regularly. Now anti-lock is a true safety feature. I'm so glad my Fit didn't come with TPMS because disabling it would have been the first mod on my list...lol
Technology seldom moves backwards. Back-Up camera's, TPMS, government mandated or not, are more likely to become more common as opposed to less.
PS. I probably should of said Back-Up camera's make things "potentially" safer...because ThEvil0ne is correct, all the equipment in the world aside, an idiot is an idiot...
Last edited by fitchet; 12-04-2010 at 03:53 PM.
#20
Actually I agree. But people can apply whatever definition to a feature they want. A back-up camera is a safety feature the first time you see the little kid playing behind the automobile that maybe you wouldn't of seen looking out the back or in the mirrors. And even though I'm on record as pretty much hating the TPMS...it's also a safety feature if it alerts you to an unexpectedly suddenly underinflated tire...
Technology seldom moves backwards. Back-Up camera's, TPMS, government mandated or not, are more likely to become more common as opposed to less.
PS. I probably should of said Back-Up camera's make things "potentially" safer...because ThEvil0ne is correct, all the equipment in the world aside, an idiot is an idiot...
Technology seldom moves backwards. Back-Up camera's, TPMS, government mandated or not, are more likely to become more common as opposed to less.
PS. I probably should of said Back-Up camera's make things "potentially" safer...because ThEvil0ne is correct, all the equipment in the world aside, an idiot is an idiot...
What do they do? They try to twist around and peer over the back seats.