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Old 02-01-2012, 08:34 PM
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Woman wins small claims suit over Civic hybrid mpg claim

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Woman wins small-claims suit over Honda Civic Hybrid - Yahoo! Autos
 
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Old 02-01-2012, 10:47 PM
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Wonder whats going to happen with Honda now? Cheaper cars with a higher price tag?
 
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:12 PM
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LOL next CR-Z owner are going to say the same thing while everyone else is happy with 30+MPG Honda
 
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:15 PM
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Not just Honda, but the case sets precedence with all - manufacturers and consumers alike.
 
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:15 AM
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Honestly, I think her victory is a load of bullshit.

First of all, the mileage is an EPA rating... which was then changed in 2008. The new rating for the Civic Hybrid is a combined 42 MPG. So, at the very least, her claim should be against the EPA and that 42 MPG.

Secondly, no where was it indicated that she showed her driving habits. Did she take the judge or any representive on a drive to show them? Was the car driven by an independent to measure? Anyone to verify or dispute her claim?

Finally, as everyone knows, you don't always get EPA numbers... sometimes more, sometimes less. But because she is in California, I'm willing to bet she one of the millions that speed everywhere they go. Speedlimit is 65 on the highway, but they almost always go 80. Hell, even here, I see twits with Prius, driving it around like they're on a race track.
 
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:04 AM
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Wow I never thought this lady had a chance in hell. There's so many variables at play and how can they prove it wasn't her just driving like a maniac. I think the system failed and it gives people a reason to sue for just about anything. I plan on starting a class action against Burger King because they said their fries are better than ever when in fact they taste worse than ever. Who's with me?
 
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The news story did indicate something about how mileage declined as the batteries aged, so maybe that's what the judge based the claim on.
 
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:09 AM
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Another absurd lawsuit decided by another lawyer.
 
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:08 PM
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The news story did indicate something about how mileage declined as the batteries aged, so maybe that's what the judge based the claim on.
But that article also quoted her as saying she NEVER got EPA numbers even before the battery started deteriorating.

In the end, this lawsuit is only hurting the consumers. Like SilverBullet said... cheaper cars with higher price tags.
 
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Old 02-02-2012, 04:44 PM
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dumbass people suing over dumbass stuff is the american way.

the figures of EPA mpg is in optimal conditions. the claimed 33mpg of the fit is conservative in comparison of what i got out of it driving slow and steady on the freeway.

this is a big blow to car manufacturers because of idiots dont know how to drive slow and steady.

i see people do it all day... accelerator hammer starts and wheel locking stops. these are the same people who whine and complain they only get 20mpg in their civic hf.
 
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Goobers
Honestly, I think her victory is a load of bullshit.

First of all, the mileage is an EPA rating... which was then changed in 2008. The new rating for the Civic Hybrid is a combined 42 MPG. So, at the very least, her claim should be against the EPA and that 42 MPG.

Secondly, no where was it indicated that she showed her driving habits. Did she take the judge or any representive on a drive to show them? Was the car driven by an independent to measure? Anyone to verify or dispute her claim?

Finally, as everyone knows, you don't always get EPA numbers... sometimes more, sometimes less. But because she is in California, I'm willing to bet she one of the millions that speed everywhere they go. Speedlimit is 65 on the highway, but they almost always go 80. Hell, even here, I see twits with Prius, driving it around like they're on a race track.
Honda will take it appeals court. They have to because it just opened a big can of worms that now every one will try to make a claim if they are not happy with their mileage. Other car manufactures are watching too.

I agree the EPA should also be blamed because they raised the mpg quota and lowered the BTUs of the gas for cleaner air. If they go back to 1990 gas with MTBE mpg would go up 20 percent.
 
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:26 PM
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I completely agree with this lawsuit and results, however, the fault and claim should reside in the EPA. They and our government are lying to consumers to get them to buy hybrids and other, less than promised, fuel efficient cars.
 
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:21 PM
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BS lawsuit.
Hmm I wonder if I can sue Honda for getting 38 MPG highway instead of the advertised 33 MPG on the Fit. LOL.
 
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:53 AM
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BS lawsuit.
Hmm I wonder if I can sue Honda for getting 38 MPG highway instead of the advertised 33 MPG on the Fit. LOL.
This is what I always think will happen if that lawsuit win, and she did win.
this lawsuit was aired i believe 4 months ago on NBC?
and on the final commentary this is what they are saying is going to happen.
its too bad
 

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Old 02-08-2012, 11:19 AM
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Yeah, this is an interesting case.

It's bad in one way, because, do you really have to be able to say your car will get X mpg no matter how you drive it?

On the other hand, there has been a whole lot of people getting less than they expected.

It will probably boil down to the automakers being careful what they claim. Maybe a disclaimer like 'in ideal circumstances with careful driving X mpg is possible'. Then have another number where "average" drivers get Y mpg. And they actually lend the cars out to a large number of drivers to get real world numbers.
 
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