Autocrossing GD3 in STF
#1
Autocrossing GD3 in STF
Hi guys,
I am preparing my '07 Fit to race in STF this year, and I am having trouble finding some really decent suspension for autocrossing. I didn't want to post in the suspension section of the forum, since most people in there are seeing how low they can get their car and how many fingers they can fit between the tire and wheel arch!
I would like to avoid the really "budget" stuff and hopefully something like Bilsteins or Konis, something with a good track record like that.
I am also going to get some decent wheels and tires, but for now I'm just focusing on the suspension and wheels/tires, nothing else.
Thanks guys.
I've had a good search for other thread with similar info but not found quite what I'm looking for, hopefully this isn't a redundant thread!
I am preparing my '07 Fit to race in STF this year, and I am having trouble finding some really decent suspension for autocrossing. I didn't want to post in the suspension section of the forum, since most people in there are seeing how low they can get their car and how many fingers they can fit between the tire and wheel arch!
I would like to avoid the really "budget" stuff and hopefully something like Bilsteins or Konis, something with a good track record like that.
I am also going to get some decent wheels and tires, but for now I'm just focusing on the suspension and wheels/tires, nothing else.
Thanks guys.
I've had a good search for other thread with similar info but not found quite what I'm looking for, hopefully this isn't a redundant thread!
#2
Haha... What do you want to know? I just finished my "winter" season in STF in my '08. Our next championship season starts on feb 10th!
AS far as suspension: https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...-interest.html
Get in touch with Chris and if you have the budget, he will set you up!
For general experience and notes, take a look at the last few pages of this thread: https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...iscussion.html
For tires, 195 50 15 Toyo R1R. Period. If you have a 15x7.5 wheel you can run 225 45 15 Hankook RS3's, which are a bit more friendly to a newer driver (better "feel" and wear like iron) BUT they will be a bit slower...
AS far as suspension: https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...-interest.html
Get in touch with Chris and if you have the budget, he will set you up!
For general experience and notes, take a look at the last few pages of this thread: https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...iscussion.html
For tires, 195 50 15 Toyo R1R. Period. If you have a 15x7.5 wheel you can run 225 45 15 Hankook RS3's, which are a bit more friendly to a newer driver (better "feel" and wear like iron) BUT they will be a bit slower...
#3
Thanks for the link. I've been autocrossing a Miata for 6 years in ES, and I installed some Koni Yellows on that, which I have been pleased with. I like the idea of going with the setup you linked for the Fit.
I have driven a couple of cars with the T1Rs and enjoyed the way they handle. Not sure whether I'd go with a 7 or 7.5 wheel yet, but I agree 195 would be a good way to go. I have a friend who runs 195 T1R on a 7.5 wheel, he just says he prefers the way it feels. Whether or not he gets any more time out of it, who knows :P
Well first step, get in touch with Chris and see what he can do for me!
Thanks.
I have driven a couple of cars with the T1Rs and enjoyed the way they handle. Not sure whether I'd go with a 7 or 7.5 wheel yet, but I agree 195 would be a good way to go. I have a friend who runs 195 T1R on a 7.5 wheel, he just says he prefers the way it feels. Whether or not he gets any more time out of it, who knows :P
Well first step, get in touch with Chris and see what he can do for me!
Thanks.
#4
Thanks for the link. I've been autocrossing a Miata for 6 years in ES, and I installed some Koni Yellows on that, which I have been pleased with. I like the idea of going with the setup you linked for the Fit.
I have driven a couple of cars with the T1Rs and enjoyed the way they handle. Not sure whether I'd go with a 7 or 7.5 wheel yet, but I agree 195 would be a good way to go. I have a friend who runs 195 T1R on a 7.5 wheel, he just says he prefers the way it feels. Whether or not he gets any more time out of it, who knows :P
Well first step, get in touch with Chris and see what he can do for me!
Thanks.
I have driven a couple of cars with the T1Rs and enjoyed the way they handle. Not sure whether I'd go with a 7 or 7.5 wheel yet, but I agree 195 would be a good way to go. I have a friend who runs 195 T1R on a 7.5 wheel, he just says he prefers the way it feels. Whether or not he gets any more time out of it, who knows :P
Well first step, get in touch with Chris and see what he can do for me!
Thanks.
15x7 = lighter = better acceleration
15.75 = wider = more grip
Kinda my take on wheels/widths.
Very excited to hear what you decide to do as far as sway bar and spring rates....
#6
Well I still haven't got around to setting my car up for autocross.
But I just found out a friend is selling some lightweight Honda wheels with V710 r-comps for a good price. So I'm picking those up and I'm going to run Canadian Nationals in HS. Unfortunately only one other competitor in HS right now (yay for Canadian autocross :P), plus the possibility of a co-driver in my car. But throwing the r-comps on and doing a big event will be fun.
But I just found out a friend is selling some lightweight Honda wheels with V710 r-comps for a good price. So I'm picking those up and I'm going to run Canadian Nationals in HS. Unfortunately only one other competitor in HS right now (yay for Canadian autocross :P), plus the possibility of a co-driver in my car. But throwing the r-comps on and doing a big event will be fun.
#7
My girlfriend is looking at a Fit, and after driving a GD3 I immediately thought it would make a great STF car. It's about 200 pounds lighter and has a couple more horsepower than the class leading MINIs. The MINI does have a rear multilink suspension, but the VW GTI did great things with a rear torsion beam for years.
Anyway, if/when we buy a Fit, it's very likely I will start prepping it for STF. I currently autocross a 2004 VW R32 in STX, but I'd love to have options for different courses and weather conditions. Also having a car that can run 195 Toyos would be awesome for chilly Minnesota spring and fall.
Anyway, if/when we buy a Fit, it's very likely I will start prepping it for STF. I currently autocross a 2004 VW R32 in STX, but I'd love to have options for different courses and weather conditions. Also having a car that can run 195 Toyos would be awesome for chilly Minnesota spring and fall.
#8
I haven't had any issues with my Ksport coilovers. And when ordering u can get any spring rate for just a little extra. I run 225/45 15 on 15x8 949s. Next tire is gonna be a Toyo RR. Spec tire for Honda challenge.
Can't wait to see some video and see how u do. Good luck.
Can't wait to see some video and see how u do. Good luck.
#11
Haha we totally do!!!
That run was really really EPIC!!! a 48.8xx or so seconds
My best that day was only a 49.4xx
Luckily though we saved that course design and may run it a few more times over the next season. It was a BIG hit
That run was really really EPIC!!! a 48.8xx or so seconds
My best that day was only a 49.4xx
Luckily though we saved that course design and may run it a few more times over the next season. It was a BIG hit
#12
Last edited by AngelMalone; 10-01-2018 at 02:04 AM.
#13
If you are racing in STF Class... I would go with the Skunk2 Pro C because you can adjust preload and ride height independently (for corner balancing) ... and go with a reverse stagger tire size to help understeer.
I run Rivals in 225/45 15 on 949Racing 15x7.5 and 205/50 15x7 on Enkei RPF1... works great.
Drop me a line if you need any help... been autocrossing my GD3 for 4-5 years now.
I run Rivals in 225/45 15 on 949Racing 15x7.5 and 205/50 15x7 on Enkei RPF1... works great.
Drop me a line if you need any help... been autocrossing my GD3 for 4-5 years now.
#15
I have done well at national level SCCA events. Best placement in my rookie year was a 4th at the El Toro Pro Solo, and that was in a class that ran on index against EG's and an AE86 on R comps LOL.
Locally I regularly battle it out with a RSX-S, several GE's and a Mazda2. In 2013 I won the 13 event season
IMO, the Mini's are easy to build and have been VERY successfully campaigned in HS. The Mazda 3 also has some BIG potential with a huge variety of engines available including some actually useable torque. Another dark horse is the earlier Corollas which can make solid power and are surprisingly lite. There's no clear class over dog yet, but this year I am in the hunt for some Pro Solo hardware!!!
#16
If you are racing in STF Class... I would go with the Skunk2 Pro C because you can adjust preload and ride height independently (for corner balancing) ... and go with a reverse stagger tire size to help understeer.
I run Rivals in 225/45 15 on 949Racing 15x7.5 and 205/50 15x7 on Enkei RPF1... works great.
Drop me a line if you need any help... been autocrossing my GD3 for 4-5 years now.
I run Rivals in 225/45 15 on 949Racing 15x7.5 and 205/50 15x7 on Enkei RPF1... works great.
Drop me a line if you need any help... been autocrossing my GD3 for 4-5 years now.
#17
HS is now "H Street," so no more Hoosiers/710's/R comps. The rule for 2014 is 140TW rating, which will go to 200TW in 2015. Depending on your wheel size and GD/GE... I would vote for the Rival or the Dunlop Z2 depending on your preference/driving style
I have done well at national level SCCA events. Best placement in my rookie year was a 4th at the El Toro Pro Solo, and that was in a class that ran on index against EG's and an AE86 on R comps LOL.
Locally I regularly battle it out with a RSX-S, several GE's and a Mazda2. In 2013 I won the 13 event season
IMO, the Mini's are easy to build and have been VERY successfully campaigned in HS. The Mazda 3 also has some BIG potential with a huge variety of engines available including some actually useable torque. Another dark horse is the earlier Corollas which can make solid power and are surprisingly lite. There's no clear class over dog yet, but this year I am in the hunt for some Pro Solo hardware!!!
I have done well at national level SCCA events. Best placement in my rookie year was a 4th at the El Toro Pro Solo, and that was in a class that ran on index against EG's and an AE86 on R comps LOL.
Locally I regularly battle it out with a RSX-S, several GE's and a Mazda2. In 2013 I won the 13 event season
IMO, the Mini's are easy to build and have been VERY successfully campaigned in HS. The Mazda 3 also has some BIG potential with a huge variety of engines available including some actually useable torque. Another dark horse is the earlier Corollas which can make solid power and are surprisingly lite. There's no clear class over dog yet, but this year I am in the hunt for some Pro Solo hardware!!!
Also looks like a sway bar can be added. Maybe I'll add on a Progress bar. I drive a GD, by the way.