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Old 07-23-2008, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by teterman2000 View Post
I've wondered about some of these cars, but I just don't see any of them getting 35 mpg when "driven equally" (esp. for mixed driving)

Recent newspaper review of the civic reported 32mpg mixed driving, I don't see any way in hell the ford focus is getting over 30mpg if you actually drive the thing, the smartfortwo has an EPA rating of 32mpg highway, I've never seen any chevy get over 30mpg unless it's a metro, the minis seem to get in the low 30s, etc etc that pretty much leaves the yaris/corrolla and Rio in my very unscientific estimation, but I would guess the yaris is the only one capable of sustained 35mpg in mixed driving. . . maybe the chevy aveo too?
Your missing the data that Rich has seen when you dispute what he said. EPA is totally different than the reality of what these cars can do in the right hands. You can't mix or confuse the two data sets. The real MPG data for these cars can be found in the logs of owners. You can also do like I did and extract the data for these cars from the cleanmpg site and sort by car and look at the mean and std dev for each model. That is a good picture and data of like minded frivers tring to get the best from there cars. Until you have done that, you have no idea what the list of cars above CAN do when properly driven based on data and facts.
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