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Old 10-31-2014, 01:12 PM
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Tires/Wheels Questions GD3

Hi, I have read up on this issue but nothing seems concrete.

I have the opportunity to buy some cheap aftermarket rims with tires on. Am more focused on the rubber, they are Michelin all seasons 205/55/15 with supposedly 90% thread left. I dont know if they will rub. Am on steelies with winter on, stock 14" but am looking to look better this season.

I am lowered on T1R coils, havent had the chance to check how low i am, but defo not lowest setting.

Will 205/55/15 rub or clear?

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Old 10-31-2014, 03:42 PM
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They will rub like crazy, don't do it. I did at stock height with the 205/55s on a 15x6.5 wheel with a +40 mm offset and rubbed front and rear.
 
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Old 10-31-2014, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hootie
They will rub like crazy, don't do it. I did at stock height with the 205/55s on a 15x6.5 wheel with a +40 mm offset and rubbed front and rear.
A friend on here told me anything more than +38 will rub. He is on 17x7 with +43. +40 should have been safe but you said you were on stock height meaning stock suspension? Im surprised yours rubbed.. would spacers help? However the oem bolts arent too long..
 
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Spacers would just lower your offset and in most cases make rubbing worse with aftermarket wheels... so example if you had a 15 inch GD Sport wheel (which offset is +55mm) and put a 5mm spacer on, then the offset will be lowered to +50mm.

The issue with 205/55R15s is that they are 24 inches in outer diameter and the stock 195/55s are 23.4 inches in outer diameter. Due to the combination of taller tire height, 10 mm wider tire AND my wheel spec is why I experienced rubbing at stock ride height.

+38mm is usually safe for 195/55s at stock height, +42mm for 205/50s. For lowered applications, general rule of thumb is to go 3 mm higher... so +41mm with 195s and +45s with 205s when lowered.
 
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Old 10-31-2014, 09:06 PM
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Thanks for the in-depth explanation! Takes a load off. And saves me alot of research. Will take those specs into consideration, I didnt know there was an actual average allowed spec for clearance cause rims are all diff... specially with all the replicas/custom offsets in used wheels.

At least now i have a load of info to use for this weekends search... thanks hootie
 
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Old 11-01-2014, 10:45 AM
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You're welcome. This is a general guide by the way, some Fits may naturally fit wider/lower offset wheel/tire combinations due to slight variants with the vehicle's body.

Check out the wheel and tire sections of the forum to see our many "What fits..." thread.
 
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Old 11-01-2014, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Hootie
You're welcome. This is a general guide by the way, some Fits may naturally fit wider/lower offset wheel/tire combinations due to slight variants with the vehicle's body.
Hang on, what's strange though, is I'm on some december bought nokian all seasons (from the satan shop kal tire) in 175/65r14 which I assume is base model stock. I rub on full lockout.. is that normal? Just because I lowered my car even stock doesn't work perfect?? Lol. And have seen some fits on here running 17s.. therefore is it more the width of the wheel that causes rubbing than the height/thickness? I assume physics says yes
 
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Old 11-01-2014, 04:41 PM
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That's rather odd... My GD is lowered slightly so that its currently within an inch of stock height and can clear 225/45R15s on a 15x9 ET +36 wheel.

How much lower than stock is your Fit? Do you recall how much camber the car has? Also, has the car ever been in a collision?

The reason I ask this is because at an extremely low height with stock tires you could be rubbing against the fender liners during full lock, the top of the strut, or the possibly sway bar.
 

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Old 11-02-2014, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Hootie
That's rather odd... My GD is lowered slightly so that its currently within an inch of stock height and can clear 225/45R15s on a 15x9 ET +36 wheel.

How much lower than stock is your Fit? Do you recall how much camber the car has? Also, has the car ever been in a collision?

The reason I ask this is because at an extremely low height with stock tires you could be rubbing against the fender liners during full lock, the top of the strut, or the possibly sway bar.
Well visual inspection tells me im between 1-1.3inch lowered, no lips (base model) and regular oem size tires and rims. I cant get my finger into the wheel well on top of the tire. Strange right? That rubbed on my condo ramp though which is almost 45¤ vertical
 
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Old 11-02-2014, 09:53 PM
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To me, that sounds a bit more like the car has been lowered 2 (+/-.5 ) inches if you're fender/wheel well is blocking you front touching the top of your tire... Though I could be wrong.

To attempt to combat the rubbing, may I suggest tucking your fender liner? Its just a matter of undoing the clips and popping the liner over the fender's inner lip.

Also... if you check out my signature for reference, the wheel gap is back when I had factory suspension and 195/55R15s. This was about 4 finger gap up front and about 3 or 4 finger gap at the rear.
 
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Old 11-16-2014, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Hootie
To me, that sounds a bit more like the car has been lowered 2 (+/-.5 ) inches if you're fender/wheel well is blocking you front touching the top of your tire... Though I could be wrong.

To attempt to combat the rubbing, may I suggest tucking your fender liner? Its just a matter of undoing the clips and popping the liner over the fender's inner lip.

Also... if you check out my signature for reference, the wheel gap is back when I had factory suspension and 195/55R15s. This was about 4 finger gap up front and about 3 or 4 finger gap at the rear.
Decided to raise her up for winter and possibly have the fenders rolled. Of course im worried about paint cracking and flaking but we will see. Am not into the flush look but do want decent height. Will probably invest in summer tires some time down the road.

Thanks hootie!
 
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Old 12-15-2014, 12:22 PM
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Rubbing

Hello Friends,

I have another issue on rubbing. Am running 205/55r15 which is giving me headaches. Have fenders rolled and t1r basic coilovers. Nowhere near lowest. My rear left fender is tearing into my tires when under a 300-400lb (2-3 people worth) load, usually has about 1 finger gap. Raised up rear still rubbing under load only. No load no rub.

Anyone have suggestions on new tire size? I know 205/55r15 is way oversized but i dont know if width or profile or both are the problem. I was just wondering what the safest tire size would be to completely eliminate the rub. It brings tears to my eyes lol.

185/55r15? I have no idea and you cant ask a tire guy cause they dont want to be liable for anything.

Please help me out!
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:55 PM
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What are your wheel specs in terms of width and offset? Also, are you running spacers (if so, sizing)?

At MINIMUM, I would again recommend going down to a 205/50R15 to get a smaller outer diameter tire. Or if you're REALLY worry about the side of your tires rubbing against the car, go either the stock 195/55 or shorter 195/50.
 
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Old 12-16-2014, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Hootie
What are your wheel specs in terms of width and offset? Also, are you running spacers (if so, sizing)?

At MINIMUM, I would again recommend going down to a 205/50R15 to get a smaller outer diameter tire. Or if you're REALLY worry about the side of your tires rubbing against the car, go either the stock 195/55 or shorter 195/50.
I'm on +38 Enkei. No spacers. Dont remember if they are a 7 inch rim. I'm looking for the shortest tire I can use, a friend told me 185 would be too thin. Should i go as short as 195 or 205 by 40-45? Im also worried that 205 is too wide or something, idk.

My car is weird, the rear left fender or problem area has a one finger gap while the right has an easy 2 fingers. Same height. Its always been like that and ben @ AJR said its the worst corner.

Another friend told me they will never be all equal but to me the difference is huge. Weird. But the point is that under load.. that side bumper tabs are actually tearing into the tire's sidewall, about an inch from the tread. That bad. When i got home i shortened the spring even more, found that the spring wasnt exactly equal and it got a tiny bit better and ride got smoother but still that gap diff hasnt changed. The wife hopped in the trunk on the problem side and i rubbed on slight dips and ramps, still pretty badly.

Thoughts?
 
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