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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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what makes me think even more is the fact that the 2 big springs in the middle of the pic have the rubber at the bottom which is exactly what the stock rear springs have on them.
the front stock springs don't have the rubber at the bottom and neither do the skinny tanabes. could only mean one thing!!!!!
 
Old Apr 14, 2012 | 03:40 PM
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I know of someone who ran a set of the GF210s a while back but they aren't running them anymore. Send BlueCell a message with the image of your springs out of the car, he may remember.
 
Old Apr 14, 2012 | 03:56 PM
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Sorry man, tried to help where I could. Switch them around and see if it helps haha.
thats what I'm dreading! I'm still recovering from all the work I've already done. wasn't easy with the lack of tools i have. thanks for your help!
 
Old Apr 14, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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Again, the larger diameter springs go in the front.
The smaller diameter springs go in the rear.

The rears don't fit on the front nor vice versa (at least not correctly). Some of you guys are just adding to the confusion by giving wrong answers. Why?

Posting pictures of full coilovers is irrelevant. You're installing lowering springs, not full coilovers. The front lowering springs have to be large enough to fit over the Macpherson struts as Hootie stated earlier. Front springs on full coilovers just need to fit over their front dampers.

Just look at your OEM springs that you removed. The larger diameter ones came out of the front right? Again, there's no way to put the wrong ones in the wrong place anyway (unless you've installed all 4 springs completely wrong).

Go ahead and wait for Tanabe's response if you want a definite answer, but I'm telling you, the larger diameter ones go in the front.

Also, did you buy your springs used? Springs sag when they get older, especially the rear springs because that's where most weight from rear passengers and trunk cargo rest.
 

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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jdm_g
from my experience with lowering springs in the past is that they never get any lower, maybe only by a very small amount. i doubt the front would settle 1.5 inch over time. very unlikely
You're right, springs settle after about 1-2 miles of driving.

After that, it's called sagging. Springs will slowly sag for the rest of their lives. You might get lower in a year or two, or three, or seven.
 
Old Apr 14, 2012 | 07:24 PM
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The longer of the spring go in the front you have them backwards 100% sure
 
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by k20a298ek
The longer of the spring go in the front you have them backwards 100% sure
eerrr... i do have the longer bigger springs up front.
 
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 06:56 AM
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I've mannaged to find a old thread here of when the springs first came out in around 2006, and everyone has indeed installed the smaller springs in the rear, along with pics to confirm. so i am now satisfied that i have install them correctly. the conclusion now is that because my car is a euro honda jazz and the springs were made for the US market, leads me to believe that my front struts aren't the same as the US ones!
 
Old Apr 15, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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rubber is there just to prevent it from squeaking. The drop should look even all around. If not then recheck how the spring sits if its on the grooves correctly in the front. I remembered they needed to go all the way in like a screw.

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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by doctordoom
No, the widers ones go in the front.



The outer springs go on the rear.
The inner springs go on the front.

There's no way for you to put the wrong springs in the front. The rear ones won't fit on the front struts so if you've got the springs on the front, then they're the right ones.

If I remember correctly, your rear will sit a little lower than the front with the GF210s.

If thats truly the case, those springs are a bad design. Bad for braking, bad for forward balance, and bad for handling.
competent design always has a forward rake on cars for aero stability and prevention of rear end rise instability on braking.
 
Old Apr 16, 2012 | 05:17 PM
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thanks Bluecell for the pics, thats exactly how i installed them! i have been finding out from other jazz owners here in the uk having the same problem with aftermarket springs. springs for the US market simply will not work with our cars, heads up to anyone planning to get springs! so ive decided to get coilovers instead, and save myself the headache of finding springs that work.

thanks again to everyone who tried to help!
 

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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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If thats truly the case, those springs are a bad design. Bad for braking, bad for forward balance, and bad for handling.
competent design always has a forward rake on cars for aero stability and prevention of rear end rise instability on braking.

that may be the case of just one supplier and not all. before ordering more non coil-overs, verify with the manufacturer that the height reduction is the same for all 4 wheels at least and preferably 0.1 more for the front.
Thats also the reason for measuring ride heights at all 4 corners before and after installing new springs.
 
Old Dec 16, 2012 | 12:09 AM
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hello guys. that is also the case here in the philippines... because usa fit have longer front. check out their engine bay a longer than other fit/jazz. one of the example is usa fit gd is equipped qith longer air filter compare to us bacuase they have longer engine bay more space... i may self has tanabe 210 us market same problem so i remove it and installed japan made lowering springs. hope this helps.

yup the springs has a printed letter whether it f=front or r=rear
 
Old Dec 20, 2012 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by king jazmyn '07
hello guys. that is also the case here in the philippines... because usa fit have longer front. check out their engine bay a longer than other fit/jazz. one of the example is usa fit gd is equipped qith longer air filter compare to us bacuase they have longer engine bay more space... i may self has tanabe 210 us market same problem so i remove it and installed japan made lowering springs. hope this helps.

yup the springs has a printed letter whether it f=front or r=rear
The longer front only applies for the bumper because US models have front reinforcements. The engine bay size is exactly the same. The actual suspension is different from US and other countries from what I'm reading.
 
Old Feb 5, 2013 | 01:06 PM
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Why are some of you saying the skinny ones go in the front? They're for the rear.
dead thread but I am bored..the skinny ones go in the front..how can you even think they go in the rear.
 
Old Feb 5, 2013 | 03:53 PM
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because fat needs to go around the macpherson strut.
 
Old Feb 5, 2013 | 04:06 PM
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the "skinny springs" do fit on the struts. I have installed many many different suspension systems on many different types of cars and trucks. It is very dangerous for some one to be driving with a car that has not been modified properly. It is not a good idea to give some one advice on how to install something when the information is wrong.
 
Old Feb 5, 2013 | 04:10 PM
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Some of us have actually installed a set of springs on a Fit before.. the "fat" ones go in the front.



You need to stop trying to give out technical commentary, I agree.
 

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