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Old Feb 12, 2023 | 12:22 PM
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Honda fit engine on ultralight aircraft

Hello guys I am new to the forum, my proyect is to install a honda fit engine on an ultralight aircraft. It has been done before many times but there isnt much information on the "how to". I am still doing research and I think this is the correct place to learn because this comunity is specialyst on this engine. my first question is IS IT POSIBLE TO MAKE THIS ENGINE RUN OUT OF THE CAR WITHOUT GEARBOX WITH THE ORIGINAL ECU? if so, what would I need to do regarding sensors? the engine will be probably a 2nd gen auto transm, located in Argentina ( not many tech resourses here, lost of DIY )
If this topic is already on the forum please guide me to it. thanks in advance ! cheers!

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Old Feb 12, 2023 | 05:24 PM
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I've never heard of anyone using a Fit engine to run an airplane. Even an ultralight, they're crazy heavy for what little power they provide, not to mention having to run a water loop for the radiator. Those engines alone are about 160 pounds dry.
 
Old Feb 13, 2023 | 11:22 AM
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I've never heard of anyone using a Fit engine to run an airplane. Even an ultralight, they're crazy heavy for what little power they provide, not to mention having to run a water loop for the radiator. Those engines alone are about 160 pounds dry.
Believe me, it has been done many times before, even if you have never heard.
 
Old Feb 13, 2023 | 01:01 PM
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A Flying Fit? Now that's freaky.
 
Old Feb 13, 2023 | 05:24 PM
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I'm sure it's been done but I certainly wouldn't get on any plane powered by a junkyard car engine

It should work ok though, as I remember there's only a speed sensor on the transmission and it shouldn't matter.
 
Old Feb 14, 2023 | 09:12 AM
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You better off with using the Honda K series for any custom swaps. The Fit and their engines has no real aftermarket support.
 
Old Feb 14, 2023 | 09:23 AM
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If possible, I would just buy a running parts car and just run the engine with the ECU and wiring, then trim the wiring from there. This way, you're not constantly chasing down possibilities on how to make it run.
 
Old Feb 14, 2023 | 09:52 AM
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A quick google found a miniature jet boat (hilarious custom single person speedboat) that used an alleged turbo L15A7. If true, that already implies custom modification to the exhaust manifold/cylinder head.
Anything can be done. I think I recall seeing a thread a while back about a dude wanting to put a Fit engine on one of those swamp rafts with the big fan on the back.. but I don't know if it was the A7, or if he got the help he needed. I didn't find it looking for L15A7 boats.

It's a reliable engine. Pretty light and small. When it comes to aircraft, although I know next to nothing, I do know that weight distribution and dimensions are not factors to scoff at. I don't believe one can just swap an engine to something bigger on an aircraft without having to change numerous other design elements, whereas weight distribution in street cars among amateurs seems like a complete afterthought.

worked with a dude who did his own restomods.. "when I got on it on the freeway, the rear would get away from me and try to pass the front..." I don't know if that's strictly a weight problem, but it's definitely a design problem. A likely factor being letting parts availability at summit racing dictate what should be done.

To OP, I don't know if you'll find what you need here.. I've never tried anything that adventurous. I'd assume that one would need a way to modify engine performance via the ecm to delete or repurpose unnecessary sensors, ect. Is that AEM FIC territory?
I'd suggest broadening your search to see any automotive engine adapted to an aircraft, and any L15A7s used in non-cars. Unless.. @PinkBatman , I don't know if you can hear me or if you even exist, but if you can, someone needs your help.


Also, everyone who decided to respond to this thread deserves a high five UP TOP!!
 
Old Feb 14, 2023 | 10:04 AM
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weight distribution in street cars among amateurs seems like a complete afterthought.
Good point and a topic for another thread.
 
Old Feb 15, 2023 | 05:58 PM
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Good point and a topic for another thread.
I'm a rambler Why, I remember when I first started rambling. Decades ago now. But that's a tale for another time.
I hope OP finds his answer. We spend our whole lives in 3D and mostly use just two of 'em. It's wasteful.
 
Old Feb 19, 2023 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Pyts
I'm a rambler Why, I remember when I first started rambling. Decades ago now. But that's a tale for another time.
I hope OP finds his answer. We spend our whole lives in 3D and mostly use just two of 'em. It's wasteful.
Oops. What I meant to communicate was that you "rambled" onto something that is important. I appreciated your ramble and think it deserves a full discussion. I wasn't calling you out for going Off-Topic.


 
Old Feb 19, 2023 | 02:55 PM
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I'd be afraid of a spark plug blowing out.
 
Old Feb 19, 2023 | 02:55 PM
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All good, friend! I know you're cool. If there's ever harsh words I'm sure I'd either deserve it or you'd have a good reason.

Wish you were around ATL. We're all set up for a BBQ, but the guests are all late. I dug in a fire pit for this!
 
Old Feb 21, 2023 | 10:02 AM
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^^Pretty neighborhood you got there.
 
Old Feb 24, 2023 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by sebazavalla
Hello guys I am new to the forum, my proyect is to install a honda fit engine on an ultralight aircraft. It has been done before many times but there isnt much information on the "how to". I am still doing research and I think this is the correct place to learn because this comunity is specialyst on this engine. my first question is IS IT POSIBLE TO MAKE THIS ENGINE RUN OUT OF THE CAR WITHOUT GEARBOX WITH THE ORIGINAL ECU? if so, what would I need to do regarding sensors? the engine will be probably a 2nd gen auto transm, located in Argentina ( not many tech resourses here, lost of DIY )
If this topic is already on the forum please guide me to it. thanks in advance ! cheers!

Sebastian
Originally Posted by Red 05
I've never heard of anyone using a Fit engine to run an airplane. Even an ultralight, they're crazy heavy for what little power they provide, not to mention having to run a water loop for the radiator. Those engines alone are about 160 pounds dry.
Originally Posted by sebazavalla
Believe me, it has been done many times before, even if you have never heard.
It seems like you have already answered your own question.

However, I believe that it is possible to get the engine running without the transmission. So as long as you have power and fuel.

To answer your questions you will need to pay attention to the cam angle sensor and crank angle sensor.



 
Old Feb 24, 2023 | 02:26 AM
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A Flying Fit? Now that's freaky.
Makes me reconsider adding wings to the Car.
 
Old Mar 10, 2023 | 07:51 PM
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Any progress on this project or research?
I'm interested in a similar "non-aircraft" swap powered by a 2013 Honda Fit L15A7 with manual transmission.
Does anybody make a wiring harness to use the stock ECU? (can the factory engine harness be retained?)
HPD uses this engine in a Formula Ford with a custom harness for the formula car with a drysump kit, etc.
Any HELP would be appreciated.
 
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