Manual Fog light Operation
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this puts a radio shack relay, then uses power from the A/C to allow the fogs to be independent and auto off when you pull out the key.
you guys should be able to adapt it... right?
this puts a radio shack relay, then uses power from the A/C to allow the fogs to be independent and auto off when you pull out the key.
you guys should be able to adapt it... right?
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Thank you for your service for me, and to your country. There are no words to adequately describe how grateful I am to you for your sacrifice! What you do allows me and my wife to sleep safely in our bed at night.
I don't envy you for the domestic circumstances in which you must now serve
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Last edited by guitar_trance; Oct 19, 2009 at 07:25 AM.
i just did this mod along with zalthras's mod for cutting the grey and splicing into the green...and it works! having the foglights come on with the parking lights and not having to worry about forgetting about turning the fogs on is great.
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sorry for bumping an old thread but,
I didn't like leaving that part unfinished so I figured out the rest of the mod.
I prefer having the foglights depend on the on/off status of the parking lights
here's the wiring diagram so you get an idea of what's going on, the orange highlighted is Roger's Fit portion, the green highlighted is what you need to do to shut off the fogs when parking lights are turned off.
While you have the steering column cover removed, go ahead and remove the headlight stalk as well by removing the harness connector and these two screws.
On the headlight stalk, pop these 4 clips, but becareful after doing one side the cover likes to fly off into oblivion.
What you'll see is this, locate the green and gray wires.
Cut and tap like so.
Now the foglights can only turn on if you have at least the parking lights on, therefore retaining an audible reminder if you leave it on after parking & shutting off the car.
I didn't like leaving that part unfinished so I figured out the rest of the mod.
I prefer having the foglights depend on the on/off status of the parking lights
here's the wiring diagram so you get an idea of what's going on, the orange highlighted is Roger's Fit portion, the green highlighted is what you need to do to shut off the fogs when parking lights are turned off.
While you have the steering column cover removed, go ahead and remove the headlight stalk as well by removing the harness connector and these two screws.
On the headlight stalk, pop these 4 clips, but becareful after doing one side the cover likes to fly off into oblivion.
What you'll see is this, locate the green and gray wires.
Cut and tap like so.
Now the foglights can only turn on if you have at least the parking lights on, therefore retaining an audible reminder if you leave it on after parking & shutting off the car.
And BTW guys, AWESOME!
What kind of moron would design foglights that can ONLY be used with headlights? The whole point of fogs is to use a lower light beam that cuts under the fog, rather than having the headlights creating glare. As installed OEM, the fog-lights can ONLY create more glare!
(It's been 10 years since I took an electronics class and had to actually read a wiring diagram. I maxed out the electronics section of the ASVAB back then. I don't think I could pull that off now.
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roger and zalthras. you guys are awesome.
a question, though...zalthras, you state that doing your mod will allow the audible alert to remain when you're in the parking light position. now i did roger's and your mod but i'm not getting the audible alert unless i'm in full on headlights on mode. i actually don't remember if my car ever gave me an audible alert in parking light mode?
if some of you other folks who have done both mods can chime in, i'd appreciate the feedback.
again, thanks a lot for your knowledge guys!!! even if i never get an audible alert in parking light mode, these manual controls for the lights are really great.
a question, though...zalthras, you state that doing your mod will allow the audible alert to remain when you're in the parking light position. now i did roger's and your mod but i'm not getting the audible alert unless i'm in full on headlights on mode. i actually don't remember if my car ever gave me an audible alert in parking light mode?
if some of you other folks who have done both mods can chime in, i'd appreciate the feedback.again, thanks a lot for your knowledge guys!!! even if i never get an audible alert in parking light mode, these manual controls for the lights are really great.
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roger and zalthras. you guys are awesome.
a question, though...zalthras, you state that doing your mod will allow the audible alert to remain when you're in the parking light position. now i did roger's and your mod but i'm not getting the audible alert unless i'm in full on headlights on mode. i actually don't remember if my car ever gave me an audible alert in parking light mode? if some of you other folks who have done both mods can chime in, i'd appreciate the feedback.
again, thanks a lot for your knowledge guys!!! even if i never get an audible alert in parking light mode, these manual controls for the lights are really great.
a question, though...zalthras, you state that doing your mod will allow the audible alert to remain when you're in the parking light position. now i did roger's and your mod but i'm not getting the audible alert unless i'm in full on headlights on mode. i actually don't remember if my car ever gave me an audible alert in parking light mode?
if some of you other folks who have done both mods can chime in, i'd appreciate the feedback.again, thanks a lot for your knowledge guys!!! even if i never get an audible alert in parking light mode, these manual controls for the lights are really great.
After doing the mods, do your foglights functionally work as expected? If they do, then I'd have to look at your wiring job to tell if something's wrong or maybe your car is just weird
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Yea, I had audible reminder both before and after the mod (with Parking Lights On and Door Open with/without foglights switched on). Keep in mind that the wire harness color labels in the wiring diagram I posted are NOT the same as the wiring colors inside the switch. But if you cut and tap the gray into the green inside the switch like I show in the picture, then it should work.
After doing the mods, do your foglights functionally work as expected? If they do, then I'd have to look at your wiring job to tell if something's wrong or maybe your car is just weird.
After doing the mods, do your foglights functionally work as expected? If they do, then I'd have to look at your wiring job to tell if something's wrong or maybe your car is just weird
....and again, big thanks. great write up!
Last edited by neil patrick harris; Mar 15, 2010 at 06:04 PM.
I have tried both, Zalthras's and Roger's, mod but only Roger's worked. When I tried doing Zalthras's mod the result that i got was as if i never did anything. I still have to turn the lights all the way to lowbeam before i get the foglights to come on. so i'm wondering what could i have done wrong?
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I have tried both, Zalthras's and Roger's, mod but only Roger's worked. When I tried doing Zalthras's mod the result that i got was as if i never did anything. I still have to turn the lights all the way to lowbeam before i get the foglights to come on. so i'm wondering what could i have done wrong?
The way i had the mod done, the fog lights could come on at any time. Problem was that you could leave them on and run your battery down.
I am going to do the second part of the mod soon.
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I have tried both, Zalthras's and Roger's, mod but only Roger's worked. When I tried doing Zalthras's mod the result that i got was as if i never did anything. I still have to turn the lights all the way to lowbeam before i get the foglights to come on. so i'm wondering what could i have done wrong?
You did both right. Zalthra's mod places an interlock between the headlights and the fog lights, so that the headlights must be on in order to turn on the fog lights.
The way i had the mod done, the fog lights could come on at any time. Problem was that you could leave them on and run your battery down.
The way i had the mod done, the fog lights could come on at any time. Problem was that you could leave them on and run your battery down.
New problem: I just went to McDonalds, left the light switch in the fog light position with both the mods done and then the whole battery died.
Anyone get the same problem?
I just went to McDonalds, left the light switch in the fog light position with both the mods done and then the whole battery died. Anyone get the same problem?
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did you turn your headlight position to off? the mod(s) doesn't automatically turn your lights off for you.
...and our tiny batteries do not hold a lot of energy. be careful or have a portable charger in the hatch like i do.
...and our tiny batteries do not hold a lot of energy. be careful or have a portable charger in the hatch like i do.
I must be completely inept, because I need a little handholding here. I have two questions:
Please help the village idiot out.
- How the hell do you remove the relay from the fuse panel. Is there some kind of trick to it? I have been tugging on it and trying to pry under the corners with my nails, and I'm getting nowhere. What am I missing.
- Do you put the fork connector in the harness slot with the green wire, or the empty slot next to it?
Please help the village idiot out.
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If you want to get all technical, the Fit does not have "Fog" lights, but Auxiliary lights. True fog lights are yellow, which causes less glare. HID's and other simulated blue headlights would have even more glare than halogen bulbs making them even worse in poor weather.
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- How the hell do you remove the relay from the fuse panel. Is there some kind of trick to it? I have been tugging on it and trying to pry under the corners with my nails, and I'm getting nowhere. What am I missing.
- Do you put the fork connector in the harness slot with the green wire, or the empty slot next to it?
- There's no trick, the relay is literally held in by 4 or 5 fat metal spades only. Try a plier.
- The 'fork' MUST contact the green wire's metal connector.
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Last edited by Zalthras; Jun 12, 2010 at 03:57 AM.