Euro Fiesta bests Fit - Inside Line
01. it felt like i was going to die while driving on gusty days on some of the local bridges around me
02. it had what looked to be a factory lift kit.
Agreed.
In terms of gas mileage, it looks like the Ford has taken the crown.
In terms of fun, it looks like the Ford is at least as good as Honda. But from what I'm reading, it's better...
In terms of utility though, the Fit is still cream of the crop.
If Honda wants to stay competitive, bring a diesel Fit w/ DSG and I'd be a happy man
Now we're talking 60-70mpg with a more efficient transmission.
In terms of gas mileage, it looks like the Ford has taken the crown.
In terms of fun, it looks like the Ford is at least as good as Honda. But from what I'm reading, it's better...
In terms of utility though, the Fit is still cream of the crop.
If Honda wants to stay competitive, bring a diesel Fit w/ DSG and I'd be a happy man
Now we're talking 60-70mpg with a more efficient transmission.
Agreed.
In terms of gas mileage, it looks like the Ford has taken the crown.
In terms of fun, it looks like the Ford is at least as good as Honda. But from what I'm reading, it's better...
In terms of utility though, the Fit is still cream of the crop.
If Honda wants to stay competitive, bring a diesel Fit w/ DSG and I'd be a happy man
Now we're talking 60-70mpg with a more efficient transmission.
In terms of gas mileage, it looks like the Ford has taken the crown.
In terms of fun, it looks like the Ford is at least as good as Honda. But from what I'm reading, it's better...
In terms of utility though, the Fit is still cream of the crop.
If Honda wants to stay competitive, bring a diesel Fit w/ DSG and I'd be a happy man
Now we're talking 60-70mpg with a more efficient transmission.I agree the Fit wins in the utility category. I wish I could say I've been using my Fit's cargo capacity to its fullest though. I don't think I ever will either.
that would kill. i've always wondered why clean diesel hybrids aren't in production, yet. that would equal great mileage in the city and hwy.
@ Mike - What!? Ford didn't include paddle shifts? Well that's a bit of a backwards step for them then, lol. I automatically assumed that it included paddle shifts b/c of the current trend of DSGs. That's a bit of a bummer. -1!
I never thought I would use the utility of the Fit, but low and behold, after 2 weeks, I was already using it, lol. I gotta admit, it's nice to have in a bind.
@ Neil - I agree...I don't know why diesel is not in right now. It's far superior to hybrids in every way shape and form. And it's the perfect bridge technology to a better future alternative.
I never thought I would use the utility of the Fit, but low and behold, after 2 weeks, I was already using it, lol. I gotta admit, it's nice to have in a bind.
@ Neil - I agree...I don't know why diesel is not in right now. It's far superior to hybrids in every way shape and form. And it's the perfect bridge technology to a better future alternative.
09 Supermini Standoff; Jazz vs Fiesta - Road Tests at CBG.ie
Honda Jazz road test, specification - Verdict On Cars
Ford Fiesta: December | Car Features | 4car | channel4.com
the overall gist of almost all the reviews is that the jazz is a great all-rounder, with brilliant packaging and function, but can't touch the fiesta as a driver's car in the supermini (subcompact) class.
Honda Jazz road test, specification - Verdict On Cars
Ford Fiesta: December | Car Features | 4car | channel4.com
the overall gist of almost all the reviews is that the jazz is a great all-rounder, with brilliant packaging and function, but can't touch the fiesta as a driver's car in the supermini (subcompact) class.
If I was in the market right now, it would be a tough choice.
It sounds like the Fiesta is more of a driver's car with equal or better performance, great feedback, but also a better ride and noise isolation.
The Fit still has more utility with the Magic Seats which makes a flat load floor, plus the flip-up configuration, both of which we use frequently. The Fit also has a track record of reliability and resale value, although it wouldn't surprise me if the Fiesta holds its value pretty well, at least for the first few years.
The Fiesta certainly has some options the Fit doesn't (leather, seat heaters, supposedly a power moonroof coming later, etc). Plus 4-wheel disc brakes and stability control are standard.
I'd buy a manual, but the Fiesta's 6-speed DSG is pretty cool (and I'm sure 6th gear is key to the 40mpg highway number). Will be interesting to see how Ford has chosen to gear 5th gear in the manual. I bet it'll be lower revs than the Fit.
It would be a darn tough choice but I might very well lean towards the Fiesta because I prefer the ride/handling compromise of many Euro cars as well as their more hefty/solid feel compared to the Fit's lightness. That driving feel and leather seats would probably make it feel like a nicer vehicle which I'd appreciate every day even though I'd give up some usability that I'd miss on occasion.
It sounds like the Fiesta is more of a driver's car with equal or better performance, great feedback, but also a better ride and noise isolation.
The Fit still has more utility with the Magic Seats which makes a flat load floor, plus the flip-up configuration, both of which we use frequently. The Fit also has a track record of reliability and resale value, although it wouldn't surprise me if the Fiesta holds its value pretty well, at least for the first few years.
The Fiesta certainly has some options the Fit doesn't (leather, seat heaters, supposedly a power moonroof coming later, etc). Plus 4-wheel disc brakes and stability control are standard.
I'd buy a manual, but the Fiesta's 6-speed DSG is pretty cool (and I'm sure 6th gear is key to the 40mpg highway number). Will be interesting to see how Ford has chosen to gear 5th gear in the manual. I bet it'll be lower revs than the Fit.
It would be a darn tough choice but I might very well lean towards the Fiesta because I prefer the ride/handling compromise of many Euro cars as well as their more hefty/solid feel compared to the Fit's lightness. That driving feel and leather seats would probably make it feel like a nicer vehicle which I'd appreciate every day even though I'd give up some usability that I'd miss on occasion.
Last edited by txmatt; Dec 4, 2009 at 09:26 AM.
I'm still smarting from the last 2 ford products I owned (Mercury Tracer, Nissan Quest (ok it's not really Ford, but then neither would be a Mercury Villager)) or I would have looked at Focus.
The last Fiesta to be imported here was a bit of a lightweight. That doesn't bode well for this one.
Still it's worth a look.
rear drums are standard but that's not a deal breaker by any means. i can't wait to test drive the fiesta when it hits dealerships.
Hah that ought to appeal to all the rear disc freaks on here.
2011 Ford Fiesta SES Hatch: Options | Official Site of the Ford Fiesta | FordVehicles.com
They show "4-wheel disc Anti-lock Brake System (ABS)" as being standard but on another line say "Front disc/rear drum brakes" are standard. Typo I guess.
I like how the Fiesta EPA (30 City and 40 Hwy) is not all really clear/true
2011 Ford Fiesta Specifications | The Official Site of the 2011 Ford Fiesta | FordVehicles.com
Optional six-speed automatic (non-SFE pkg.) Projected 30* city/ 38* highway/ combined 33*
Optional six-speed automatic w/optional SFE package Projected 30* city/ 40* highway/ combined 34*
*Based on Ford test data. Pending EPA certification.
Anybody know what the SFE Package is on the Fiesta?
I know the Ford F-150 has it and its usually less hp motor and less restrictive tires.
I am wondering if the EPA is really going to be that generous with their mpg #'s when they do in fact certify the Feista. I have a feeling the EPA will more in likely be closer to our Fit's EPA's.
This is what TundraHeadquarters.com thinks about Fords SFE package on the F-150.
"We think this package is more of a marketing ploy than a true product for fuel misers."
Sounds to my (imo) Ford is trying to market the golden child when actually all they really have is the same old economy car that's out there already. Guess we will have to wait and see.
2011 Ford Fiesta Specifications | The Official Site of the 2011 Ford Fiesta | FordVehicles.com
Optional six-speed automatic (non-SFE pkg.) Projected 30* city/ 38* highway/ combined 33*
Optional six-speed automatic w/optional SFE package Projected 30* city/ 40* highway/ combined 34*
*Based on Ford test data. Pending EPA certification.
Anybody know what the SFE Package is on the Fiesta?
I know the Ford F-150 has it and its usually less hp motor and less restrictive tires.
I am wondering if the EPA is really going to be that generous with their mpg #'s when they do in fact certify the Feista. I have a feeling the EPA will more in likely be closer to our Fit's EPA's.
This is what TundraHeadquarters.com thinks about Fords SFE package on the F-150.
"We think this package is more of a marketing ploy than a true product for fuel misers."
- The SFE package will use the smaller F150 engine – the 4.6L 3V – for power. While the 3V 4.6 has 290 hp @ 4750 RPM and 317 lb-ft of torque @ 4000 RPM, this engine likely won’t be a popular choice. Considering that most truck buyers opt for the biggest engine available (often a wise choice, btw), this is partial proof that the “SFE” package is a marketing ploy.
- The SFE package will feature “low-rolling-resistance” tires – a.k.a. PASSENGER CAR TIRES on a truck. All truck manufacturers do this of course, but the SFE package is making it sound like it’s a good thing to buy a new truck with a set of tires that you shouldn’t take off-road.
- The heart of the SFE fuel economy savings is Ford’s new 6-speed automatic transmission (cough – Toyota had it first). Yet the new 6-speed auto is standard on the 4.6L 3V and 5.4L.
Sounds to my (imo) Ford is trying to market the golden child when actually all they really have is the same old economy car that's out there already. Guess we will have to wait and see.
Last edited by Committobefit08; Dec 10, 2009 at 02:00 PM.
as drivers of hondas it should be clear we see brilliance in an automobile and give credit where its due....so some of the fan boy's here should tone it down and stop furthering the notion that all honda drivers are as ignorant as you.
the fiest is a great car, but its not that much better than the fit, if at all. but i do like it.
the fiest is a great car, but its not that much better than the fit, if at all. but i do like it.
the lines of the feista don't appeal to me, and the front, that huge open gap still looks like a big mouth. It's ugly. We bought the fit for ultility and looks. the Ford just doesn't do it for me, and I'm sure as of today, the avg reliability for any honda will > any ford. That's just how it is right now.
Well I went to the Ford website and you can actually build your own Fiesta on their build to order system. I will say right now the Fiesta options shame the Fit. The SES model is already much better equipped than the Fit Sport, and then you can add other goodies like push button start, keyless entry, heated leather seats, and a bunch of other stuff. Plus unlike the Fit, Ford makes traction and stability control STANDARD on all the models. They don't force you into buying some ridiculous entertainment package in order to get a safety feature like stability control. I still don't understand Honda's logic with that decision, completely boneheaded.
If the Fiesta drives like the European version, and gets the gas mileage Ford is predicting, it will be a home run and it will definitely take sales away from Honda. The only thing the Fit has over the Fiesta is the reliability and the utility. If the Fiesta proves to be as reliable as the Fit then Honda is really in trouble, as the big selling point for buying any Honda is the reliability.
Ford is really kicking butt lately and I have to tip my hat to them. They are getting on the ball and cranking out some really great cars now. The 2010 Mustang has been getting rave reviews, the new Fusion is also winning comparison tests everywhere, and the new Taurus and Flex are also getting great reviews.
If the Fiesta drives like the European version, and gets the gas mileage Ford is predicting, it will be a home run and it will definitely take sales away from Honda. The only thing the Fit has over the Fiesta is the reliability and the utility. If the Fiesta proves to be as reliable as the Fit then Honda is really in trouble, as the big selling point for buying any Honda is the reliability.
Ford is really kicking butt lately and I have to tip my hat to them. They are getting on the ball and cranking out some really great cars now. The 2010 Mustang has been getting rave reviews, the new Fusion is also winning comparison tests everywhere, and the new Taurus and Flex are also getting great reviews.
Why don't they list the vehicle's weight in the specs? My Fit is going to come in at 1050kg (still a little porker for me) and if the Fiesta weighs any more than say 1100kg it will be just too damn heavy in my opinion.
One thing I never will understand is the fascination people have with leather seating in a car. I utterly hate leather seats, my Snisen, I pulled them out immediately. Thankfully the 5R Integra in Japan didn't get the crappy leather like the RSX did.
Guess that is what makes the world go round though, not everyone can like everything the same.
One thing I never will understand is the fascination people have with leather seating in a car. I utterly hate leather seats, my Snisen, I pulled them out immediately. Thankfully the 5R Integra in Japan didn't get the crappy leather like the RSX did.
Guess that is what makes the world go round though, not everyone can like everything the same.



