Ford Fiesta, a Fit Killer?
#26
I just checked Ford's website, and the MSRP of a Fiesta SES 5MT hatchback is 17,120...if you've bought a Fit Sport 5MT recently that number should be quite familiar to you =P Coincidence?
Either way, as a big fan of small and maneuverable yet economical hatchbacks, I'm really looking forward to see what happens with the additional competition. A Fit Si with a 1.8L NA or 1.6L turbo would be siiiiiiiick =D
Either way, as a big fan of small and maneuverable yet economical hatchbacks, I'm really looking forward to see what happens with the additional competition. A Fit Si with a 1.8L NA or 1.6L turbo would be siiiiiiiick =D
#28
I'm really excited to see the Fiesta get here. It should be a very competitive small car, and I hope Ford does well with it. I've been very happy with my old '93 Escort (bought new) that is still going strong.
Some other thoughts....
On the 40 mpg figure, according to the Ford website:
"*Based on Ford test data. Pending EPA certification."
and...
"with Optional six-speed automatic w/optional SFE package"
I think SFE is "super fuel efficiency". You may pay more for the SFE package than the MPG boost will pay back, plus the package might consist of skinny tires and less sporty shift points.
On the cargo discussion, I just posted this: https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...uch-mulch.html ---- 'nuff said
Some other thoughts....
On the 40 mpg figure, according to the Ford website:
"*Based on Ford test data. Pending EPA certification."
and...
"with Optional six-speed automatic w/optional SFE package"
I think SFE is "super fuel efficiency". You may pay more for the SFE package than the MPG boost will pay back, plus the package might consist of skinny tires and less sporty shift points.
On the cargo discussion, I just posted this: https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...uch-mulch.html ---- 'nuff said
#29
I was in the UK for a month last fall for work and had a "hire car" - the Fiesta has been around for a year or so over there and I ended up with one. I had the petrol 1.4L with manual tranny, although I suspect the 1.6L will be the engine of choice in N America. When shopping for my Odyssey replacement this winter, I wanted small, efficient, but still useful for Home Depot, etc.
My impression of the Fiesta, even in UK spec, was that it was quick and fun to drive, with a great tranny, great gearbox, and a really great drivers and front passenger cabin. However....
- the back seat is so cramped Mustang drivers would laugh. There is NO legroom back there and I'm only 5'10"
- the rear seats do not fold down flat, making the extended cargo area virtually useless. Although, in my rough estimation the boot itself (with the back seats up) is more useful than the Fit's as it is a bit deeper - although stats say it is smaller.
- I was averaging about 45mpg - but the bigger imperial gallon - in mixed driving. That's about 37MPG (US gallon)
- For those of you that think the Fit manual runs high revs on the highway (3500 at 75mph) the Fiesta I had ran 4,000rpm at the same speed in top gear. Yes, 4,000 RPM! And it WAS noticable - unlike the Fit (or the Mazda 3 for that matter) that pull high revs on the highway but you don't really notice. American gearing may be different but remember what Honda assumed - Americans don't like to shift - Ford may leave it as is.
For my buck it would be the fit all the way, although the Fiesta, admittedly, does look sportier. And if the Fiesta RS comes over the Pond, Honda better get the Jazz VVTi from Europe to compete with it.
Now, the new Focus, coming across the Atlantic for 2012, is one great car. But that's another story.
My impression of the Fiesta, even in UK spec, was that it was quick and fun to drive, with a great tranny, great gearbox, and a really great drivers and front passenger cabin. However....
- the back seat is so cramped Mustang drivers would laugh. There is NO legroom back there and I'm only 5'10"
- the rear seats do not fold down flat, making the extended cargo area virtually useless. Although, in my rough estimation the boot itself (with the back seats up) is more useful than the Fit's as it is a bit deeper - although stats say it is smaller.
- I was averaging about 45mpg - but the bigger imperial gallon - in mixed driving. That's about 37MPG (US gallon)
- For those of you that think the Fit manual runs high revs on the highway (3500 at 75mph) the Fiesta I had ran 4,000rpm at the same speed in top gear. Yes, 4,000 RPM! And it WAS noticable - unlike the Fit (or the Mazda 3 for that matter) that pull high revs on the highway but you don't really notice. American gearing may be different but remember what Honda assumed - Americans don't like to shift - Ford may leave it as is.
For my buck it would be the fit all the way, although the Fiesta, admittedly, does look sportier. And if the Fiesta RS comes over the Pond, Honda better get the Jazz VVTi from Europe to compete with it.
Now, the new Focus, coming across the Atlantic for 2012, is one great car. But that's another story.
#34
Fully agree with this 100%. I will never own a Ford if I don't have to!
#35
I think Ford is moving in a good direction, i truly truly hope it does well (and i have a biasness because I owned 2 mustangs that treated me VERY well)
but the reason I got this fit is because I didn't want to see it "Found on the Road Dead" like the common ford joke. So i got this Honda Fit to put that reliability test to the challenge and if it doesn't go to 200k miles mile everyone claims it does with out any major problems.. I am going back to Ford.
also.. the more popular ford gets with focus and fiesta, the more popular hatchback gets, and the more popular our cars will become as well.. so its like a win win situation.
but the reason I got this fit is because I didn't want to see it "Found on the Road Dead" like the common ford joke. So i got this Honda Fit to put that reliability test to the challenge and if it doesn't go to 200k miles mile everyone claims it does with out any major problems.. I am going back to Ford.
also.. the more popular ford gets with focus and fiesta, the more popular hatchback gets, and the more popular our cars will become as well.. so its like a win win situation.
#36
Ford is the only Big Three still staying competitive. I hope it will do well because it is an American company. Also I heard the quality gap is getter narrower against the Japanese for the past few years. The "Japanese" brand name weighs more than actual reliability.
#37
10 years from now...who will hold out longer and resell value?
in 10 years - lets talk
good going ford - like what ur bringing over - hope for the best with the gm beat as well. when i bought the fit in oct 2009 i knew what was coming, this and the mazda 2 - but 1 drive with a fit 5 speed - and its swiss army knife capabilities - no comparison
in 10 years - lets talk
good going ford - like what ur bringing over - hope for the best with the gm beat as well. when i bought the fit in oct 2009 i knew what was coming, this and the mazda 2 - but 1 drive with a fit 5 speed - and its swiss army knife capabilities - no comparison