Hate to spoil the party Bullet, But there is absolutely no moly in amsoil.... Honda just started putting a High tech piece of plastic on there pistons to reduce the piston slap noise it is UHMW . that's what they put on them with, not moly. I'm not trying to sell any thing !!!!! maybe you should reed more about things before you go running at the mouth.

 

This mileage thing I just don't understand. Amsoil is made to run for 7500 miles. Is that in a FIT, GT500, S2000, Cummins Turbo Diesel? An Oil Manufacturer will have no idea how long oil will last in any given engine unless they've tested it on EVERY engine out there. The engine manufacturer will have a better idea of how the oil will be used and how it will break down in the given engine. This 3000/5000 mile oil change is stuck back in the 60's. Oil tech & Engine Tech have greatly improved over the last 50 years.

Auto Companies have been pushing the 3 month or 3000 mile thing for years and probably because it was safe. Honda obviously decided to spend the time to actually figure it out. The end result is that their way of thinking has cought up with the improvements in technology. We can actually move from the 1960's way of thinking to the 2010 way of thinking.

Another thing for thought. Has honda drastically changed their oil in the last 10 years? My Integra used stock oil which was recommended to be changed every 3K. but now my Fit is every 10K. Is honda using some long life oil that is soooo different from anything else out there? or have they just moved to the 21'st century?

~SB

 

Wal-Marts carry the 0W-20. All Honda dealers should have the 0W-20. That's the recommended oil in the hybrids.

 

Honda does not make their own oil. Like you have said, engine and oil technologies have gotten better. Almost every car manufacturers are recommending loner oil change intervals.

Some European car makers are recommending even longer intervals. BMW is 15K miles.

 

You got me on the oil, But mobil1 is good enough. There is moly embedded in the pistons not tape. The Truly Amazing Honda Fit/Jazz check it out. (Draw) I know that in a test Ive seen that Amsoil thickens up, all oil thickens up so the extra protection is not need. Change oil when it doubt.

 

Thank you, My Walmart never has any by time I get there. They do but I requested it and they wont put it in saying it for hybrids.

 

Honda dealer told me that Honda oil is mobil. I think its what ever deal Honda can get. Longer intervals is because of cleaner gasolines and better oils.

BMW's holds more oil than most cars (6-7quarts of oil) plus the oil has to have extended drain rating a/3 a/5. That oil is hard to find, and is full syn. too

 

yup... it was something for thought; the fact that the oil honda uses (while it has improved over the years) hasn't changed all that much in the last 10 years but the recommended oil change interval most certainly has. The older J35, J32, & J30 V6 engines used the 3K interval but our ridgeline uses a maintenance minder... and it's essentially the exact same engine (and likely to be the most abused of the V6's since it's in a truck). This again reinforces that it's a state of mind thing (changing every 3K miles): taking the J as an example, over the last several years, the oil hasn't changed, the engine hasn't changed, yet the recommended schedule has...

Honda I believe uses Quakerstate for oil. (at least they used to). I would doubt that honda takes the "best deal" on oil as Honda is quite particular about their engines so oil should be of prime importance. (to be a standard)

~SB

 

Thanks guys for the heads up dam i never thought the reccomended oil was 5w20. So my problem is i have about 6 quarts of 10w30 Amsoil left and 10 gallons of mobile1 10w30 and also my next oil change is free at the dealer. So should i use this oil at the next change by the dealer? Or let them use there oil and next change i would do myself use this left over oil? Or just sell this oil?

 

I was looking at my owners manual, Honda says their oil and filter is recommended but can use a 5w20 oil with the star burst label on the oil label. So the question is what is Honda genuine oil? It also said that synthetics are not required but can be used as long as matches Honda's requirements. So I take it that the maintenance minder is for regular oil. It says that when the mm gets to 15 percent to change oil, is based on how you drive. Since they already use m1 in there Acura RDX as factory fill, I probably can safely assume that the use of mobil products. Discounts are given the more you buy so it makes sense. Since the star burst label means energy efficient, It probably contains the minimum amount moly or something similar. I understand that moly is for trucks and heavy duty applications and can have adversed effects on exhaust systems, but Honda puts it in their motors.

 

The Fit sees whatever 5w-20 or 0w-20 synthetic oil is on sale. It seems to like the Mobil 1 0w-20 oil and Mobil 1 filter in there right now. It's been 3000 miles, and 80% life remaining. Probably another 10k+ mile change.

And you're thinking of zinc, which can poison the catalysts. I've not heard anything about molybdenum doing negative things to the emissions-control devices.

 

There a difference of opinion about the subject, years ago moly would drop out of the oil and form sludge and then gum up the rings and eventually clog the converters, then they found out it was cause by zinc too. You dont need alot of zinc after the glass like covering of the metal parts, you only enough to maintain it. Back about 15 years ago they came out with a new moly that is more stable and would stay suspended in the oil and would not leave deposits. So there is a difference between old school and new school. Here a few links that explain it .

Oils Well That Ends Well, Part 1 - Sport Rider Magazine
Oils Well That Ends Well, Part 2 - Sport Rider Magazine
Welcome Have to look around theres a good link about moly somewhere.

 

Motorcycle oils are a lot different,there is no friction modifiers in them, hence the clutch wouldn't lock up, only motors with separate gear boxes can use that type of oils.

 

That guy from Sport Rider has some glaring factual errors, so take what he says with a big grain of salt.

Example: "All multiviscosity oils carry two numbers. In simple terms, the first number is the oil's viscosity when cold (32Fahrenheit/0Celsius), and the other is the oil's viscosity at operating temperature (212F/100C); the "W" stands for "weight""

He is right about 212F/100C, the rest is incorrect. "W" stands for Winter and the temperature for W grade viscosity measurement is not 32F/0C, but is a different temperature depending on the grade. SAE J300 is the governing document. I can provide a link if anyone is interested.

 

Just got my first oil change @ 20% minder & 4700 miles, to mobile 1 ep

The car is running much quieter and smoother with the synthetic

I gave the shop 5 quarts, but they only used 4.

Tires rotated, and now Im good to go baby

 

I could feel the difference, how about you?

 

I def felt a difference.

It was like the fit had a bad itch(poison ivy), and the mobile 1 ep soothed it and made it all better

IMO anyone not using synthetic is really missing out

 

Right now I'm @ 60% oil life and 5500miles. What I'm beginning to do is listen to the tappets. I've found that when approaching oil change time my engines get a bit more noisy. To be truthful I'm still not comfortable with this extended life oil change stuff, especially when it's the original dino in there.

The engine is still running nice and quiet - as a brand new engine should, but when I do get it changed I expect it to run even more quieter...

 

KC

I was at 20% with 4700 as most of my miles are from short trips.

1 year is just 1 months away.

Just dont go over 1 year

 

Chuck, I wouldn't wait till you hear any noise, change it now there's plenty of mileage on it. If your going to wait, feel the oil on the dipstick, feel for grit.Personally I would just change it. Just my 2 cent's

David