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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 02:17 PM
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there is no need for a big brake kit on a street car

bnd is right, the big problem is traction the stock dunlops are utter garbage

Get some stickier tires, throw on some hawk hps pads/decent slotted or drilled rotors/ stainless steel lines

Bang. Brakes will own all
 
Old Aug 3, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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maybe it's just me but unless you're taking the Fit to the track every weekend upgrading to a big brake kit is just money wasted. I would try what others have already suggested on here. Better, tires, pads, and SS lines. I only have aftermarket rotors, pads and tires and my Fit has no braking issues at all. What exactly are people experiencing that makes them think they need a BB kit?

In many tests comparing BB kits to stock where they stop from 70-0mph ten times in a row you see absolutely no differences until about the 7th stop then the heat dissipation is noticeable.
 
Old Aug 3, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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maybe it's just me but unless you're taking the Fit to the track every weekend upgrading to a big brake kit is just money wasted. I would try what others have already suggested on here. Better, tires, pads, and SS lines. I only have aftermarket rotors, pads and tires and my Fit has no braking issues at all. What exactly are people experiencing that makes them think they need a BB kit?

In many tests comparing BB kits to stock where they stop from 70-0mph ten times in a row you see absolutely no differences until about the 7th stop then the heat dissipation is noticeable.
agreed, i just threw on some hps pads and brembo drilled rotors on my civic.....I could actually feel the g's in my face.....never done that before....and pedal feel was nice too
 
Old Aug 3, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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i love how everyone jumps on someone interested in a big brake kit by saying "there is no need" and it's a "waste of money", when they have no problem justifying their own personal modifications as somehow the opposite. Do you really need new wheels? No. Did they come cheap? No. Did that stop you from getting them? No.

While I agree that tires, pads, and brake fluid will work wonders, who is anyone to say that its right or wrong. When talking about modding your fit, anything can be considered a waste of money--especially brand-whore wheel snobs.
 
Old Aug 3, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by teamkitty
i love how everyone jumps on someone interested in a big brake kit by saying "there is no need" and it's a "waste of money", when they have no problem justifying their own personal modifications as somehow the opposite. Do you really need new wheels? No. Did they come cheap? No. Did that stop you from getting them? No.

While I agree that tires, pads, and brake fluid will work wonders, who is anyone to say that its right or wrong. When talking about modding your fit, anything can be considered a waste of money--especially brand-whore wheel snobs.
Everyone of my brand wheels has been less than Rotas
 
Old Aug 3, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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I agree, looks like a great option


Sorry, I guess I was in a bash mood, it was the whole jumping to false conclusions that got me.
I'm sorry Black3sr
Apology accepted. I am old fart and do not drive my Fit that agressively where I have a need for more brakes. Like how fast can I get going to the grocery store when in 4-50kph zones?
 
Old Aug 3, 2010 | 06:48 PM
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What means poor brakes???

To seriously improve the street braking I think you would have to change over the rears to disks - however, others have more experience than I. Rear conversions get involved on a GE and costly.

AJ has a good rear disc brake conversion. mine are over 2 years old and great.
The easiest thing to do to improve brakes is to replace front pads with HAWK HPS pads. The difference is phonmenal. Remember 70% of braking is done on the front wheels. you really don't need rear discsunless youre going on track speeds.
 
Old Aug 3, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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mahout This thread has lead me to the same conclusion. When it comes time I just might follow your advice. thanks.
 
Old Aug 3, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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3 weeks ago at the Dan Ryan Express, I had first hand experience on how anemic the braking performance on the fit are. Was doing well over 60 when I decided to make a quick pass from middle lane unto the right lane and back into the middle (that was the plan) when suddenly a car decided to abruptly made a hard stop before overshooting or missing her exit. The car behind her was not able to stop on the dime and boom! It happened so quick and granting the fit does not have the accelerating process, I had to hit the brakes. I was maybe a good 100 feet or so and still came short. Here's what I experienced... When I hit the brakes, ABS kicked in right away followed by a nerve wrecking brake-fading and I just kept on going. Luckily I have the exit ramp clear for me to avoid everything. If I had no lane available for me on that incident, I would have wrecked.

Was it the brakes? the tires? or the entire stock setup??? maybe... but for all I know with this experience... it is inadequate.
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AJ has a good rear disc brake conversion. mine are over 2 years old and great.
but they only have it for gd
 

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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ThEvil0nE
3 weeks ago at the Dan Ryan Express, I had first hand experience on how anemic the braking performance on the fit are. Was doing well over 60 when I decided to make a quick pass from middle lane unto the right lane and back into the middle (that was the plan) when suddenly a car decided to abruptly made a hard stop before overshooting or missing her exit. The car behind her was not able to stop on the dime and boom! It happened so quick and granting the fit does not have the accelerating process, I had to hit the brakes. I was maybe a good 100 feet or so and still came short. Here's what I experienced... When I hit the brakes, ABS kicked in right away followed by a nerve wrecking brake-fading and I just kept on going. Luckily I have the exit ramp clear for me to avoid everything. If I had no lane available for me on that incident, I would have wrecked.

Was it the brakes? the tires? or the entire stock setup??? maybe... but for all I know with this experience... it is inadequate.

but they only have it for gd
If the ABS kicked it too soon, it means you braked too hard. Not that you would've avoided the crash, the stopping distance as specified for 60-0 is over 100 ft anyway (if I'm not mistaken).

I'm not sure what you mean by "anemic," since I think it would more qualify for such a description if ABS didn't kick in at all. Incidentally, that's been a nightmare I used to have... forced brake, but brakes barely work and I'd slam into car in front.

In any case, I hope you don't think I'm critizing you. I'm only able to say this in hindsight. There's a phrase I know about it, "We have perfect vision, in hindsight." I'm sure if I was in your shoes, I probably would've slammed on my brakes just as hard if not harder.

Another thing is that it's possible your brakes haven't yet broken in.
 
Old Aug 3, 2010 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ThEvil0nE
Was it the brakes? the tires? or the entire stock setup??? maybe... but for all I know with this experience... it is inadequate.

but they only have it for gd

Hawks and Direzzas will cure the problem of stock brakes. Well as much as can be done but a whole lot better than stock..
 
Old Aug 3, 2010 | 10:21 PM
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@Goobers: ^^ all points taken... and the "barkes not broken in part" as I don't normally take the Fit out to the expressway and 90% driven local with mpg in mind.
 
Old Aug 27, 2010 | 05:23 AM
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Here's the info on the fastbrakes kit:

2005-2010 Fit rear drum to 11" disc conversion
Price: $975.00

Fastbrakes designed 11" rear drum to disc conversion for Fit. Uses the factory calipers with 11" slotted/dimpled rotors. Kit comes complete with all the needed parts: Rotors, remanufactured calipers, adapter kit, braided steel brake lines, park brake cables, performance pads.


Brake Kits - Performance Pads, Rotors, Calipers & Brake Upgrades
 
Old Aug 27, 2010 | 05:27 AM
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Does AJR have a rear drum to disc conversion kit for the GE? There is an old thread about an AJR rear brake kit but where is the link to the kit for sale?

There are rear brake kits for the GD. I only found the rear brake kit from fastbrakes.

Can someone post links to other rear brake kits?
 
Old Aug 28, 2010 | 04:32 AM
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My understanding for brake kits....GE = GD = GE = GD. Same for 99-00 and 01-05 civic as well as DC2 ITR, all are interchangeable.

Re: rear disc conversion....if you're gonna spend the money you may as well just get the Wilwood kit with aluminum calipers to maximize weight savings as well as braking. Basically the same price. Just my .02
 
Old Aug 28, 2010 | 06:20 AM
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Has any one bought a GD rear disc brake conversion kit and mounted it on a GE? I would not assume that everything just bolts up. I would be a very expensive mistake to just assume.
 
Old Aug 28, 2010 | 11:22 AM
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Strictly speaking from a performance standpoint, BBK is a waste of money. So is drilled rotors. Get some good pads (Hawk, for example), good rotors (OEM, Brembo blanks, or my favorite, Autozone Duralast) and good tires, you're good to go. Drum brakes work just fine. There are H1 Civics running drums, so if it's good enough for them, street driven or even tracked Fit's will see no problems on drums.
 
Old Aug 28, 2010 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by p nut
Strictly speaking from a performance standpoint, BBK is a waste of money. So is drilled rotors. Get some good pads (Hawk, for example), good rotors (OEM, Brembo blanks, or my favorite, Autozone Duralast) and good tires, you're good to go. Drum brakes work just fine. There are H1 Civics running drums, so if it's good enough for them, street driven or even tracked Fit's will see no problems on drums.
Very well said. The rest is bragging rights.... and this is the freakforum_

Though there is Fit Suspension and Brake that might take issue.
 
Old Aug 28, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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UKDM & JDM Jazz has rear disc brakes and it is good enough for them. USDM has inferior rear drums.
 
Old Aug 28, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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tires before brakes.

hell, the spoon fit has drums in the rear

 



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