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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:38 PM
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I have just returned from Honda where they replaced the complete plastic cowling after they broke the clips during the recall job.
Very happy with the replacement part which looks quite expensive, and the job looks be be done well. Hoping I don't have to go back again other than for routine servicing.
Thanks again for original "heads up"
 
Old Oct 22, 2011 | 09:43 PM
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They damaged my air box. I think this was a result of some shortcut to not break the cowl clips.
 
Old Oct 23, 2011 | 12:45 AM
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For sure it's the mechanics not bothering to release the clips correctly or just in a hurry. I'd imagine that many Jazz owners whose cars have been recalled for this particular problem don't bother to look at the air box clips on completion of the job. If I had not came across the Fit Freak site I certainly would not have known.
Now that the new cowling has been installed all is well.
 
Old Nov 9, 2011 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Alexs
Update: After I picked up the car from the dealer after the second time it was there, the vibrations and rough idling were better at first.

A week later, the vibrations are almost as bad as after they first did the recall and the wiper arm vibrates constantly when the car idles.

I'm going to have to take it back for a 4th day to have it fixed, but might have to take it to a different dealer and/or have the recall work completely redone.

Meanwhile, I may have to borrow or buy scientific equipment that will show the level of vibration since the people at the dealer claim they can't feel it (although they can't claim not to see the constant wiper arm vibration).

Again wishing I'd never taken this in -- they've ruined my car.

Same thing has happened to me, my Jazz actually broke down on the side of the road because they forgot to tighten something. Something to do with one of the rocker arms becoming loose. After fixing that stuff up my can has never seemed to be the same again. Idling is rough, but not bad enough for them to actually care.
 
Old Nov 9, 2011 | 05:08 PM
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Same thing has happened to me, my Jazz actually broke down on the side of the road because they forgot to tighten something. Something to do with one of the rocker arms becoming loose. After fixing that stuff up my can has never seemed to be the same again. Idling is rough, but not bad enough for them to actually care.
A rough idle is not something that should be ignored and certainly not by dealer service. My suggestion, a sit down talk with the Service Manager is in order. Not a service guy, but the Manager. Stick to the point [simple sequence of facts] and relate your concerns and dissatisfaction with how things have been going and what it will take for you to be a happily satisfied Honda Owner.
 
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 01:10 PM
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Problems after LMS recall!!

Hello all... I finally decided to get the LMS recall done on my 09 Fit Sport, and I am having similar issues others have reported.

ONE broken clip, (dealer will replace), but most importantly the noise coming out of the engine is NOT good. There is an underlying metalllic/hissing noise that I can hear on idle very clearly. I had taken audio of the engine prior to the LMS, and also after. The difference is clear to me.

Does anyone know what the hissing/metallic noise is? In the attached youtube video you can hear it sort of on and off. I am not too worried about the clacking sound since that was there before LMS to the same level.

They told me valve clearance adjustments were made (with cold engine). Is this sound a sign of improper valve clearance? Thanks.

[youtube]6HbTCyJGqFg[/youtube]
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MVI_6726.MOV - YouTube
 

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Old Mar 28, 2012 | 05:16 PM
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Yuck....sounds like an empty bean can with several buckshot rattling around. Not at all what mine sounds like. Could of course be not a true sound considering the dinky little speakers I have.

This kind of hassle/question is why I'm going to be doing mine myself sometime soon.
 
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 06:34 PM
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hard to say. sounds almost like something is rattling that wasn't secured correctly.
 
Old Mar 28, 2012 | 10:23 PM
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I think the only issue that can arise is the issue of a good tech doing the job in the first place. When I had my 09 done, it was fine. No problems. But in talking to the tech who did it, it was clear he was competent- not a moron. When I made the appointment I made a big deal out of having the best guy in the joint do it. The SM said bring it in on this day, mr goodwrench would be on it. He was, no issues ever after the work. I actually felt that the car rode better overall after the work. Perhaps in my head though.
 
Old Mar 30, 2012 | 03:41 PM
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Hi guys had my fit in for the LMS recall
Now it Sounds like a deisel engine and the engine "feels" different.
Now I have almost gutted my stock intake box and obviously this increases valve noise but it didnt sound like this before.

Should I take it back there to have them look at it. I know they will first blame me because the intake mods, then say its just because of the mods that makes the sounds and finally they will just flat out deny that its an issue or that their liable at which point they will not return calls and Ill have to go in and firmly speak with the head slimeball who will later renege on eveything he said... can you tell Ive been there before?

Or should I just drive it like this till late summer when Im free to do it myself?
 
Old Apr 12, 2012 | 01:51 PM
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Had my LMS recall done on Monday, 4/9/12. A few days later, no issues to report. Everytime we discussed it at the dealership (and I kept putting it off; no good time to leave it sitting for half a day) the service rep seemed to be very knowledgeable of the recall and what was exactly being dealt with with the recall.

When I get home I'll get under the hood and see if anything is messed up.
 
Old Apr 18, 2012 | 01:02 PM
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Check out this thread:

https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...arranty-3.html

That poor guy had the LMS recall done and apparently the mechanic failed to tighten down the spark plugs properly. This resulted in numerous problems and Honda has denied any responsibility.

I still have not had the recall done and have no intention of getting it done.
 
Old Apr 18, 2012 | 02:41 PM
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I have not done mine neither. I might do it myself or take a chance. Mine has only 27,000 miles on it now.
 
Old Apr 20, 2012 | 10:41 AM
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I had the LMS done last year and had some clips/cowl panel damage and they replaced it. Did'nt really drive it that much after, I put the car away over the winter and now at 4500 RPM I have a miss while under no load [not in gear] I can't feel it while driving though. Anybody have any ideas if something is messed up with the valve train?
 
Old Apr 23, 2012 | 02:20 PM
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I guess I'm one of the few who saw an improvement after the LMS service.

I had both the valve clicking and some vibration on cold startup before taking my 09 Sport Fit in to the dealer for LMS work.

The valve clicking is now gone. The vibration remains (not better or worse). I mentioned the vibration when I brought it in, as it was still under warranty at the time (and I left it overnight to ensure they'd have a cold startup in the morning), but they said it was "working as intended". *shrug*
 
Old Apr 27, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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UPDATE: Took mine in for a second time, they gave the vehicle to their best mechanic for another valve clearance adjustment, and to replace the cowling with a new one (broken clips of course...)

Anyhow, the car was handed over to me with a new cowling, but now ANOTHER set of clips where broken when installed. Whaaaaa?!?!?! Seriously. So they ordered a third one.

Worst thing is I have been driving it for 3 weeks, and it still has the rough idle, and it still sounds louder as per my post above.

getting really sick of this, I just KNEW not to take it in for the LMS. Im a tard.
 
Old Apr 27, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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I will not take my in for LMS.
 
Old Jun 14, 2012 | 10:19 PM
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Im just going to deal with the noise for now. Last time I went in to the autofair honda in Manchester NH. I was so pissed at them for thier utter incompetence I took the keys from the manager walked out into the restricted back lot and drove off.

They had my car for an entire week while I was on Vacation I told them the date and time Id be back to pick it up and even called the morning of to make sure it was ready.
In a week the didnt do any of the work I had left it for and even after the call that morning it was still in the back lot covered in bird shite and with oil/grease all over the steering wheel.

I will do the valve lash adjustment myself in a couple thousand miles. Ill never go back to them for anything in fact there has always been an angry customer in there when I did go in the past, should have tipped me off eh?
 
Old Feb 21, 2013 | 03:55 PM
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Stalling in cold

2009 Fit. 75k miles. I had the lost motion spring recall service done in 2011. With the especially cold northeast winter this year, my Fit would stall as soon as I put it into Drive. If I warmed up thoroughly, it would be fine.

Brought it in yesterday and they discovered that the dealer that did the service had over tightened the engine valves and somehow the air box tube rubber joint was ripped and was leaking air.

Valves adjusted, rubber joint replaced, no more stalling.

I highly recommend Mount Kisco Honda. The service tech David said that "It is inexcusable for a fuel injected car to ever stall."

If your Fit stalls, bring it in. It's not normal. It's either a fuel problem, an air problem or a spark problem.
 
Old Feb 21, 2013 | 06:59 PM
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Haven't posted here in awhile.....sorry to see the sad stories continue. I have gotten the parts and have the TSB which gives good detailed instructions. Having the big shop manual helps too, because the TSB refers to it. Will plan to do this work sometime this spring and will post some pics.

Geo
 



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