Oh My God!

Now, I think everyone on this forum knows how much I LOATHE Walmart, everything it stands for, and how much I love seeing them get the shaft...
but...
Walmart and other "department" stores are NOT "Rental Agencies" (hell, you aren't even renting, just "borrowing"). The intent of Return policies is to keep a customer happy when the product they purchase either is not functioning properly or not meeting their needs. They take it back no questions asked so that consumers are more likely to work with them instead of feeling pressured to keep the product THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR THEM. They are not there to be your loan center. Returning USED items that worked just fine for your needs is just wrong. (Even if it is walmart) You should go back to the store and buy those ramps again because it's the right thing to do. No wonder this country is so F'd up

~SB

 

In any event, I played by their rules. Now if you come back and say I didnt play fair...I did play fair. They have a policy where I can return anything within 90 days. They dont say I have to have a reason. In your post above, you make several assumptions which sound logical, but the fact is I didnt violate any laws and I went by the rules which are I could return anything within 90 days without a reason. If thats objectionable to them than they should change those rules and I would play by the changed rules.

Now if you say I took advantage of Walmart, well, think again. The Waltons are among the richest in the world, billionaires. Walmart is also one of the largest companies in the world with billions in sales a year. Im not ripping off Walmart. All Im doing is abiding by their own policies. If they truly felt taken advantage of then they should change their policies on the issue.

 

You may not have broken any rules but what was done was unethical. Granted, you may not have "broken their rules" but what you did was plain wrong. I think anyone can see that and no matter how much you try and justify it, it was wrong.

As for taking advantage of Wal-mart... you did. Just because people are rich doesn't mean that they can't be taken advantage of. By "abiding by their policies", as you state, you are intentionally forcing them to lose money on a product that they are selling as it can no longer be sold at retail prices as it is used. It is then sold at a Discount as "returned" merchandise. Knowingly doing this is taking advantage of them.

As I said before, there is no bigger evil than walmart and I loathe them but my choice is no to rip them off, but to not shop there at all and spread the word about a number of things I've seen them do first hand to lower the standard of living for the town I went to college in. All Factual, and perfectly ethical.

Do the right thing and Go buy your ramps back.

~SB

 

Are you going to buy and return the ramps everytime you need to change the tranny fluid? I would pay 43$ to avoid all that running around. Im not judging you because I bought a tool once to remove manual car window handles and carefully put it back in the package after I used it and returned it. But Im sure they sold it as new after and nobody knew the difference.

 

First, Walmart is not a saintly corporation. They have locked people in their stores at night, discriminated against women, ran small stores out of business, etc. Meanwhile the Waltons became billionaires over unfair, questionable and even illegal business practices.

I was ethical in my actions because I followed their rules which were clearly posted. I could return any product within 90 days for any reason or no reason. They dont even ask a reason as to why I return the item. However, Walmart hasnt always followed the rules. They locked human beings in their own stores so they could keep working. People were injured and couldnt get medical attention because they were locked in.

Workers Assail Night Lock-Ins by Wal-Mart - NYTimes.com

The good book says an "Eye for an eye" so I am just returning the favor. So I walk into Walmart with the good book in one hand and the ramps in the other. The fact is though that those ramps will be put back on the rack and sold as new. Walmart wont tell anyone they were used. If Walmart does have to sell the ramps at a discount, than it will probably resell them at $30. They will lose at most $10-20 if that.

Second, the reason why I didnt keep the ramps is because I hate working on my car and wouldnt have any need for them. I realized that if I didnt change that fluid than I might have transmission problems in the future like all those guys with Fits on here who write about strange noises at 75-100k miles so I had to do it. Besides, you dont need the ramps to slip a pan underneath the car and drain it.

I will be draining and filling the trans again in the future, but I wont need the ramps. I will just slip the pan underneath. Once you realize how simple it is, you will be doing it too. All you got to do is slip the pan underneath, place the socket wrench on the plug and loosen/tighten as needed. That synthetic ATF is slick and once it gets on anything its a mess.

The ATF fluid at my local dealer, BTW, costs nearly $10 per quart. Bernardi sells it for $6.

 

Oh yeah, read that Times article again. Walmart didnt stop locking in employees after attention was put on the issue...it simply provided the night manager with a key to unlock the employees. I dont think anyone would call those actions moral or ethical locking up your own employees like prisoners or slaves.

 

My next upgrade to my Honda Fit is the horn and, instead of using the Accord horn, Im going to be using the one from the Ridgeline.

I looked up the part numbers and the Ridgeline Horn has not changed since it was introduced in 2006. The Honda Accord horn from 2009 to 2010 did not change, but the part numbers changed on the 2011 Accord horn. So the horn on the 2011 Accord should be different.

I figure the Ridgeline horn will be the most commanding and masculine since it designed for a 4wd pickup truck. I was thinking about aftermarket Hella horns, but I dont want to do any drilling, cutting or fitting. I just want plug and play.

 

Wow, There is so much wrong with this it's not even funny. the good book says an eye for an eye... Did walmart, rip you off and is this in direct retaliation (of equal value) to the amount you were overcharged/ripped off? or are you playing vigilante for those others who have "been wronged".

Here's Another Saying... Two Wrongs don't make a right. Unless you are law enforcement or some agency who is working to prove wrongdoing for specific purposes against wal-mart, it is not your place to take action. Spread the word of factual information which will prevent others from shopping there or follow similar ethical paths but doing something unethical/wrong because they have wronged someone else is not right. Better yet, don't shop there... EVER

Also, just following their rules doesn't also make things right as their policy is a poor choice and it caters to the lowest lowlife. It is a move to muscle out the competition (Primarily smaller businesses) that cannot absorb the losses of unnecessary returns. wal-mart deserves to be run out of business as they have horrible policies and even worse business practices (suing their own employees, etc...). That said, doing something unethical to "combat" this doesn't make it right. Many wrong-doings have been done in the name of following "their rules". And besides, with everything that's been posted about Walmart, do you think they are able to create their own "ethical" policies... i think not.

Do what's right.

 

They prob lock them in to keep the smokers from sneeking out every 10 minutes. I see that all the time.

 

I am doing whats right, I am taking advantage of Walmart and their policies. Walmart has taken advantage of so many people over the years to include their own employees, the communities around them, vendors and small businesses. So I dont believe its wrong to take advantage of them in the least. Tonight, the Waltons and all of the exectives of Walmart go driving around in luxury cars to luxury destinations and off of the backs of the people...meanwhile we drive around in Hondas wondering how we can get that extra mile out of them.

An "eye for an eye" was written by the author or authors of the Holy Bible. On the other hand, the person who said "two wrongs don't make a right" was a defense attorney trying to get their client a lesser sentence. As for law enforcement and the politicians, Walmart pays them off. The politicians get their check at the end of the day.

So we all have different opinions on the issue and I am certainly not going to change mine. As long as that Walmart stands on the corner, I am going to be taking advantage of them just as they have taken advantage of everyone else over the years. Sam Walton didnt go to bed at night thinking of all those small business owners he bankrupted or those employees locked up in his stores against their will. In fact, I thought I saw him on 60 minutes once laughing, smiling, joking and burning a hundred. Go ahead and defend him if you must.

 

You mistake me (god knows how with every disclaimer I've placed) for someone who likes or cares about Wal-mart and the waltons. Please refer to the previous posts about my opinions on WM. eye for an eye... yup... it's in the bible. so is "thou shall not steal"... hmmm thinking that one got a bit more publicity. What you are doing is stealing, plain and simple. Moses, Jesus, John, Paul, Peter, etc... They'd be ok with this... right? Just because the company you are stealing from has written a policy allowing people to return items, doesn't mean they are allowing/expecting them to be used. They do it for "customer service" so the customer doesn't have to explain why the item didn't work for them. They aren't expecting items to be used and returned and because they don't ask questions doesn't make it anything less than theft. Go ask the manager if you can buy undergarments, wear them for 90 days, then return them just to get your money back.

The bigger problem is that you (and many others) seem to think this kind of behavior is ok. And this isn't limited to WM. It is this entitlement complex that all too many have that they should be able to do what they want and use companies big and small as their "neighbor" for which they can barrow anything from.

oh.. but then again... Obviously this theft is being done in the name of Justice and fairness for all...

...Whatever helps you sleep at night.

I'm done and out. Because Every post I leave (no matter how much it gets under my skin) bumps this useless thread (from the beginning) up in the list. This thread should be moved to general discussion, not GE8 discussion anyway.

~SB

 

So after you hijacked the thread with your arbitrary opinion on my Walmart return habits calling it a "theft" than we should now move the thread to chit chat?

This thread is about my 2011 Honda Fit and if you dont like what Im doing than there is the door. As you said, you are done so beat it. Take a hike. C-ya later.

 

Where do you find a Walmart???

 

Something is very wrong here,values,rationalization???????

 

Something is wrong here and its called thread hijacking. All I did was return some $43 ramps to Walmart after one use and then a bunch of trollish posters hijacked my thread acting like I robbed the bank giving me a condescending speech on values.

Please, if you dont like whats going on in this thread than you don't have to read it, you most certainly don't have to respond and by all means place me on ignore, but dont hijack the thread or give me a lecture about values. If the truth be known, the folks here lecturing me about values are probably not saints themselves although they may act as saints in this thread.

As for the Waltons and Walmart and their billions of dollars, I could care less.

Thank you.

 

If you don't want people to respond then don't post.

I despise Walmart (but I do buy coffee filters and an odd memory fob there. Maybe lightbulbs. OK I admit it, when the stepdaughter went off to college this year we shopped for small appliances there. But I didn't like it. And I gave an associate a tongue lashing after being unable to determine the price of a microwave and having to run around the store with it waving it under scanners (damn thing was heavy) and have it tell me to see an associate. And thus the tongue lashing.)

I'm a cheap bastard. Bought a Base and revel in its stinginess.

But I would never "borrow" goods from Walmart. That brings you down to their level. A very low level, indeed. (I never say "indeed" but you brought it out in me.)

And it's "couldn't." I couldn't care less. If you could care less then you care. Some. Or a lot.

 

Why should I be the one to stop posting? Just because a few here don't agree with my use of the Walmart returns policy? I stand firm in my opinion and I will not budge on this issue. I have already stated my case and explained myself in great detail.

 

If you want to talk about you Fit, then talk about your Fit. You lit the fire. When you bring up foolish details then they become part of the discussion. All folks needed to know is that you changed your tranny fluid umteen times, not the crap you played on a retailer, but since you did...

 

No one has suggested you stop posting. Please don't stop! Just that if you don't like responses, a message board probably isn't the best place to pontificate.

 

Getting back to why are you changing the trans fluid so much? It is not good to do that and I see you complaining about a blown trans soon. If the fluid is over heating and darkening then there is a problem and changing the fluid wont help. Your just washing away the reason it will fail and wont be covered under warranty. Also you did not follow the manufacture recommendations.


Just because you can get away with something and its a policy doesn't mean you can abuse it. They are changing the rules because people cant police them selves and needs to be told what and how to live and that's why we are losing freedoms at the cost of things going up.