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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 11:55 PM
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My bad, the OM for 2010 actually says 47 mph for 4 -> 5.

As for why those speeds are suggested... it was most likely what someone (or a few people) at Honda decided was a good balance between comfort and economy. And it pretty much says so in the OM:

Recommended Shift Points
Drive in the highest gear that lets the
engine run and accelerate smoothly.
This will give you good fuel economy
and effective emissions control. The
following shift points are
recommended:
Shift up Normal acceleration
1st to 2nd 15 mph (24 km/h)
2nd to 3rd 25 mph (40 km/h)
3rd to 4th 40 mph (64 km/h)
4th to 5th 47 mph (76 km/h )
 
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 01:14 PM
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Eventually you wont even need to hear the engine to know when to shift. You'll know by the feel of the car.
 
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 01:39 PM
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What mods do you have? Cause the stock fit feels pretty bland..
 
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamy
What mods do you have? Cause the stock fit feels pretty bland..
True, but im speaking from driving any manual transmission. Once you get used to it, its like riding a bike. I don't pay attention to the sound of my engine or the tach. I just drive and shift when it feels right.
 
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 01:53 PM
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Bicycles don't have lights or tachometers to tell you when to shift. Cars are no different.

As you become more experienced driving a manual transmission you just feel when it's time to shift --- and that moment varies from person to person, depending on how much you like to rev up the engine.

I drove a Passport with a light. It got annoying after 30 seconds.
 
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mike410b
Mine are something like this:

1-2 = 5-10 mph
2-3 = 20ish mph
3-4 = 35ish mph
4-5 = 40-45 mph



with 17's its a little more like


1-2= 9-15
2-3= 20-30
3-4= 30-45
4-5= 45+
 
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 02:28 PM
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I always drive by feel and sound too, which for DD is fine for me, but if i'm really beating the car I find myself looking at the tach around redline because it feels like the motor has more to give above 6800... I hit the limiter in 1 and 2 sometimes, I guess if I was going to RACE it I wouldn't mind a small light around 6500.

There's a writeup for DIY VTEC light on here somewhere... i'll probably do it later in the car's life, IIRC it turns on around 5500 rpm.

You could get a big drag race style shift light 90's style and wire it up?
 
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 02:50 PM
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when I'm daily driving and trying to keep the Fit quite and RPMs down I short shift like a mofo. When starting from a light im about to in 3rd by the time im on the other side of the intersection, lol

I dont have much experience driving manual but after about a day I was pretty much going all by sound and feel of the car and very little looking at the tach.
 
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 04:00 PM
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I just shift up and down through the gears whenever I feel like I need to. Sometimes just for the hell of it because I'm bored or getting sleepy.
 
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fstyle751
Does the Fit have the light on the dashboard that tells you when to shift gears in the MT?
If you need a light, you should not have an MT
 
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by wetphoto
If you need a light, you should not have an MT
We all have to start somewhere.

The computer that shifts the AT must have some criteria: rpm or mph.

I would think the person driving the MT could use the same criteria. Maybe thats what is given in the owners manual.
 
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fstyle751
We all have to start somewhere.

The computer that shifts the AT must have some criteria: rpm or mph.

I would think the person driving the MT could use the same criteria. Maybe thats what is given in the owners manual.
You're over-analyzing driving a manual transmission with all these threads of yours.

Just get in and drive one the way you feel comfortable driving it.
 
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 07:31 PM
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The purpose of the light in most mt cars is to improve EPA milage numbers easily without compromising actual performance. The EPA would shift when the light came on even if most drivers would wait to a higher rpm.

As to how the at shifts, it's a function of rpms, grade, speed, throttle position, how you've driven in the past, etc. it's not a purely rpm driven thing.
 
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 07:36 PM
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The lack of a shift light is one of the many reasons I chose the Fit.
 
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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fstyle, you aren't exactly starting though, you mentioned in a previous thread or maybe it was this one, I have lost track :P that you haven't driven a manual in 30 years. Don't sweat it, it's like riding a bicycle once you do it once it is like second nature.
 
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by fstyle751
We all have to start somewhere.

The computer that shifts the AT must have some criteria: rpm or mph.

I would think the person driving the MT could use the same criteria. Maybe thats what is given in the owners manual.
Well, I learned to drive an M/T in a Ford Escort hatchback, that didn't have a tach. The criteria in the OM is MPH... and isn't even "required," just a recommendation for a "comfortable ride."

As already mentioned... just shift where ever works best for you. Short shift, shift at 3k rpm, 4k... or at red line.. and anything in between. Which ever you are most comfortable with. When I'm bored, I bounce myself off the rev limiter. When I'm focusing on my deliveries and not the rpm, I pretty much short shift.
 
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 555sexydrive
fstyle, you aren't exactly starting though, you mentioned in a previous thread or maybe it was this one, I have lost track :P that you haven't driven a manual in 30 years. Don't sweat it, it's like riding a bicycle once you do it once it is like second nature.
It is hard to imagine how many people that have asked me which gear they should take off in, how do you know what gear you should use to go down a hill in, why do you need so many gears ???? .. Those are the kind of questions that people shopping for a bicycle wanted answers to... Now the same kind of people ride bikes with fixed hubs and no brakes, but only if they can talk someone into helping them take the bike off of their roof rack.
 
Old Jan 18, 2012 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by fitisbamf
with 17's its a little more like


1-2= 9-15
2-3= 20-30
3-4= 30-45
4-5= 45+
i feel like it would double my daily commute to shift when this says. i know its probably best for economy reasons, but it would drive me nuts. it seems like i have people riding my ass even though i feel like im gettin on it.
 

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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas Coyote
It is hard to imagine how many people that have asked me which gear they should take off in, how do you know what gear you should use to go down a hill in, why do you need so many gears ???? ..
Those were the exact questions my wife asked. She also asked how to know wich gear you go to after 1st... I asked her to count to 5, then said there you go.
 
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