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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 02:26 PM
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Who would win?

I have a bet with my buddy saying that my car is faster than his around a auto x circuit. He has a 2012 Chevy Impala and I have a 2010 Fit sport.

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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 02:36 PM
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With any luck you would both burst into flame on impact with a wall at turn 1.
 
Old Mar 25, 2013 | 02:39 PM
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I hope you didn't bet anything important. But good luck anyway.
 
Old Mar 25, 2013 | 02:39 PM
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Who would care?
 
Old Mar 25, 2013 | 02:48 PM
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Auto X is 75% driver, 15% tire, 5% power and 5% suspension.

There is absolutely no way for us to guess who would win since we don't know any of the variables. Just go and have fun learning skills that will help you be a safer driver and maybe a better racer someday.
 
Old Mar 25, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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I just think it would be a fun race. His car weighs 1000lbs more than mine... but it has 300 hp....
 
Old Mar 25, 2013 | 03:02 PM
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I hope you didn't bet anything important. But good luck anyway.
lol just a friendly $50.00
 
Old Mar 25, 2013 | 03:13 PM
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So he's got 1000 more lbs and 180 more HP. You do the math on that one! He'll be faster unless you have racing slicks on and the autoX is a low-speed course.
 
Old Mar 25, 2013 | 03:32 PM
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well.. this is where it gets interesting. I have my suspension set up just the way I like it. Frame reinforcements, slotted front breaks with nice pads lowering springs. I'm sure I've got him in the corners. I can pick what track we race at So as long as a pick a short track I think I might have a chance.
 
Old Mar 25, 2013 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by low trq
Auto X is 75% driver, 15% tire, 5% power and 5% suspension.

There is absolutely no way for us to guess who would win since we don't know any of the variables. Just go and have fun learning skills that will help you be a safer driver and maybe a better racer someday.
That % break down is 100% correct. What tires do you have?

You will NEVER do well on your first AutoX outing (unless your an alien born with amazing talent who can jump in anything and make it fast, THEY DO EXIST, I am NOT one )

#1 Rule, HAVE FUN

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So he's got 1000 more lbs and 180 more HP. You do the math on that one! He'll be faster unless you have racing slicks on and the autoX is a low-speed course.
In AutoX, 99% of the time, getting power down is a significant challenge that only gets HARDER if you have more.

If he has enough tire (265mm+ prob) to get 3000lbs and 300hp down, and a modicum of throttle control, you will likely be in trouble. ESPECIALLY if the course designer drives a Corvette or a Miata or just about any Front Engine Rear Wheel Drive car

If it's on a small lot, with a lot of slaloms and technical sections....

I've beaten 400+whp Evo's in raw times when the course was on my side
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 03:38 PM
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I'm rooting for the fit
 
Old Mar 25, 2013 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Car and Driver
For driving impressions of the 2012 Impala, we’d suggest you rent one and experience it for yourself—the press fleets aren’t exactly loaded with the things.


I could imagine flinging my arms about helplessly trying to turn and put 300hp/250tq down on the front wheels of a boat at the same time at an autocross course.

If the course was two long straights and two equal radius turns you'd be dominated.
 
Old Mar 25, 2013 | 07:40 PM
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The Fit would obviously win. You have a racing stripe AND the Stig! DUH!!!!!!
 
Old Mar 25, 2013 | 07:53 PM
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You'll definitely win the cost of ownership race
 
Old Mar 25, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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Stolen from 2012 Chevrolet Impala Specifications

2012 Chevrolet Impala

3.6L V-6 300-hp @ 6,500 rpm 262 lbs.-ft. @ 5,300 rpm
6-spd auto transmission w/OD
Front-wheel drive
3,555 lbs. Curb weight
P225/60SR16.0 BSW AS tires
Independent front strut suspension w/anti-roll bar

: rotfl:

NOT a good recipe for an AutoX car... AT ALL

Originally Posted by Wanderer.

I could imagine flinging my arms about helplessly trying to turn and put 300hp/250tq down on the front wheels of a boat at the same time at an autocross course.
I would LOVE to see video of some one try!!!

All poking fun aside, I have seen several hot shoe drivers flog rental car Chrysler 200's with the VSA turned off... at a curb weight of 3400lbs and only 173hp rated at the crank from the 4 banger... They looked like they were having fun. Times were NOT fast, but lots of tortured tire noise and mid corner throttle lift + brake stabbing = hooliganism
 
Old Mar 25, 2013 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TPColgett
I would LOVE to see video of some one try!!!



At least it's RWD there.

 
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Originally Posted by Wanderer.
 
Old Mar 26, 2013 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TPColgett
That % break down is 100% correct. What tires do you have?
My Fit is 100% stock and it's my daily driver for now. I stopped racing after many years after the 2010 season, but my last car (2006 RSX-S) was running Z1*specs.

I'll get back into it one day.
 
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