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Old Apr 5, 2015 | 07:53 PM
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Disapointing fuel economy!

I'm new to this forum and this is my first post. Anyways, my grandmothers fit is the vehicle me, my mother and her took to Winnipeg manitoba. We live in Calgary Alberta and its a 14 hour drive each way. The fit got an actual calculated(not computer calculated) 6.9 l/100km (34.2 mpg) throughout 3 fillups and 700 miles of 65mph driving. The car was purely city driven and has just under 30,000 kms so it may have carbon buildup issues. I have no clue. Any tips on how to make it better for the trip back?
 

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Old Apr 5, 2015 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by buyingconstant7
I'm new to this forum and this is my first post. Anyways, my grandmothers fit is the vehicle me, my mother and her took to Winnipeg manitoba. We live in Calgary Alberta and its a 14 hour drive each way. The fit got an actual calculated(not computer calculated) 6.9 l/100km (34.2 mpg) throughout 3 fillups and 700 miles of 65mph driving. The car was purely city driven and has just under 30,000 kms so it may have carbon buildup issues. I have no clue. Any tips on how to make it better for the trip back?
Bump up tire pressure, drive slower, drive it hard for a few minutes prior to leaving.

34.2 is still above the car's EPA highway rating, not bad at all, especially if its automatic.
 
Old Apr 6, 2015 | 02:53 PM
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34 sounds normal to me as well. I've never gotten 34 without trying hard for better fuel economy. The only time i got higher than that was after coming down a huge mountain in to the flat, south east US. I know some people here claim to get over 40 mpg but i honestly don't think my fit can do it. Maybe if i lived in Florida.
 
Old Apr 6, 2015 | 03:45 PM
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These cars don't get that great of fuel economy I've noticed. For a tiny 1.5 litre 4 cylinder, and a light curb weight, I'd expect AT LEAST 40mpg. My golf with the new 1.8t is not only heavier, has a turbo and has a larger engine, gets over 40mpg in my spirited daily drives with ease. With the fit, I find myself hypermiling to get 35mpg. But the headroom and ease of getting in and out was the main selling point for my grandmother. For her getting around town doing 2kms a day, it works.
 
Old Apr 6, 2015 | 04:03 PM
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These cars don't get that great of fuel economy I've noticed. For a tiny 1.5 litre 4 cylinder, and a light curb weight, I'd expect AT LEAST 40mpg. My golf with the new 1.8t is not only heavier, has a turbo and has a larger engine, gets over 40mpg in my spirited daily drives with ease. With the fit, I find myself hypermiling to get 35mpg. But the headroom and ease of getting in and out was the main selling point for my grandmother. For her getting around town doing 2kms a day, it works.
You weren't hypermiling if you were getting 35 mpg.
 
Old Apr 6, 2015 | 04:17 PM
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34 mpg on winter blend fuel sounds about right. I average 36 in the winter in mixed driving but using fuel saving techniques... I wouldn't call it hypermiling though.

Summertime 40 mpg is attainable for me but it's not very fun... it was much easier to get that with narrow all seasons than wider summer tires like I have now.
 
Old Apr 6, 2015 | 04:28 PM
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You weren't hypermiling if you were getting 35 mpg.
You bet I was hypermiling. If I hypermile my golf, 50mpg is possible. I hypermiled my uncles 2010 Ram 3500 where he could only do 16 at best, I got 23mpg from winnipeg to Calgary. I know how to hypermile but the fit just doesn't reward it, no matter how hard you try.
 
Old Apr 6, 2015 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanderer.
34 mpg on winter blend fuel sounds about right. I average 36 in the winter in mixed driving but using fuel saving techniques... I wouldn't call it hypermiling though.

Summertime 40 mpg is attainable for me but it's not very fun... it was much easier to get that with narrow all seasons than wider summer tires like I have now.
How in the world did you get 40? I just went on a highway trip with just me and the fit to a lake today and only got 37 mpg. And I was doing 10 under the speed limit and drafting semi trucks. Something must be wrong with this car. It feels super under powered too. I timed a 0-60 and it was over 13 seconds. Car an Driver claim they did it in 9 seconds.
 
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How in the world did you get 40? I just went on a highway trip with just me and the fit to a lake today and only got 37 mpg. And I was doing 10 under the speed limit and drafting semi trucks. Something must be wrong with this car. It feels super under powered too. I timed a 0-60 and it was over 13 seconds. Car an Driver claim they did it in 9 seconds.
I get 40 MPG EASILY.

You're doing something wrong.
 
Old Apr 6, 2015 | 04:50 PM
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How in the world did you get 40? I just went on a highway trip with just me and the fit to a lake today and only got 37 mpg. And I was doing 10 under the speed limit and drafting semi trucks. Something must be wrong with this car. It feels super under powered too. I timed a 0-60 and it was over 13 seconds. Car an Driver claim they did it in 9 seconds.
In the summer I can do 40 mostly highway pretty easily with standard all seasons and an M/T. This is driving 65 mph and taking advantage of fuel savings where possible. I'm pretty sure I won't hit 40 with the wheel and tire setup I have now but 38 should be no problem.

Your 37 is not far off and is pretty decent for winter I think. You have to remember too the Fit seems like a small car, but it's an optical illusion. Look at it next to other cars in comparison and you'll see it's tall as hell and the aerodynamics are not that great. Add a small motor to the mix and 35 mpg is not that bad.

If it's taking 13 seconds for 0-60 you must have an A/T base model? I think even the book value 0-60 for the A/T base model is almost 11 seconds, the mid 8 - low 9 seconds is for the M/T (book timing). You can do better than that though with a stock car on a good launch in an M/T from what I've seen.
 
Old Apr 6, 2015 | 05:02 PM
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I get 40 MPG EASILY.

You're doing something wrong.
What do you do to get that? Shift early? Coast in neutral or in gear? Drive below the speed limit? I'm just curious.

I know the reason i get poor fuel economy is because I'm an aggressive driver, have to drive over a small mountain / large hill every day and run wider summer tires. I get 29 around town but as soon as a road trip away from home I'm back up to 32-34 (using the readout on the dash, i don't care enough to do the math manually.)


Anyway. I always thought 34 was good for a non-hybrid.
 
Old Apr 6, 2015 | 05:09 PM
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I wish, I only see 29-32mpg calculated at best no matter how I drive my fit and this is with the gauge hovering around 40-45 on on the dash under most of the driving conditions I encounter.
 
Old Apr 6, 2015 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by luciusad2004
What do you do to get that? Shift early? Coast in neutral or in gear? Drive below the speed limit? I'm just curious.

I know the reason i get poor fuel economy is because I'm an aggressive driver, have to drive over a small mountain / large hill every day and run wider summer tires. I get 29 around town but as soon as a road trip away from home I'm back up to 32-34 (using the readout on the dash, i don't care enough to do the math manually.)


Anyway. I always thought 34 was good for a non-hybrid.
I shift around 2.5k.

I coast down HUGE hills.

I drive at the speed limit, or around 5 under (never more, unless I'm in no rush and cruising along back roads with no traffic).

I face a large hill on my daily commute, however I take advantage of the downhill portion on the way home.

34 is definitely good for most people, I just know that anything less than 40 bugs me
 
Old Apr 6, 2015 | 07:23 PM
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hypermiling isnt drafting semi trucks or going 10 under the speed limit. i find going at the speed limit is quite fine. did a 60 mile leg dropping off my wife to work and going to work myself i was doing 40 mpg. my normal commute of 11 miles only nets me 34-37 mpg. i do real basic hypermiling. i coast in neutral when i can and thats not often. i coast in drive to stops and neutral at stop lights. i don't do engine off while coasting.
 
Old Apr 6, 2015 | 07:54 PM
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Doesn't seem to bad? In winter my avg goes down quite a bit while it's colder..

My normal avg is 7.2-7.4 l/100 km.. Winter goes up to 7.8.. But I drive 90kms a day in Toronto traffic... Half that in city driving

My best while driving in traffic is 5.9 (40mpg).. I'm a sport auto.. That day I just drove non aggressive.. Most days I drive 120km/hr range

 
Old Apr 7, 2015 | 03:53 PM
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I avg 6.0 on the readout from Edmonton to Vancouver, and that has tons of huge hills. I drive between 110-120. In the auto I think the trick is just let it gradually slow down on the uphill without downshifting so much, then regain speed on the otherside( unless you have traffic behind you). At highway speeds I never push it past 10L/100km on the readout when accelerating or going uphill. I only push hard if I absolutely have to.

Also I never use cruise control, that just causes it to shift around like mad on even the slightest hills.
 
Old Apr 8, 2015 | 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mike410b
I get 40 MPG EASILY.

You're doing something wrong.
Same same. There's no way any of my other cars get through two weeks of highway driving on a single tank.

Averaged 17.3km/l on the last tank. We'll see how accurate that is this week though, because I ran it down to fumes and installed a fuel economy app before the next fillup to track how accurate that is or if it needs a reset.

But seeing as I'm getting 5x 100km round trips to the city, plus city driving either end inbetween, I think it's fairly accurate.
 
Old Apr 8, 2015 | 01:44 PM
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buyingconstant7- Different cars are... different. Golf hypermiling and Fit hypermiling are going to be different. Get a Scangauge or UltraGauge, spend the time calibrating it and then let it show you what works best with the Fit. 37 mpg to me is the worst of winter.

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I know the reason i get poor fuel economy is because... i don't care enough.
Hills are great for mileage, what's the problem there? Driving aggressively hurts mpg, but if you're trying to be effective then you're going to be smooth. Efficient, even. That'll get you pretty good mileage even with hard throttle use: I was in a huge hurry this morning. Instead of my usual 55-60 I spent a lot of time at 70-75, and the beep that points out I'm over 4k rpm (a relic from my last car, a turbo) went off a lot. I was on time enough to work and still got 42 mpg for the run. That turbo I had? Before I started hypermiling I was still beating EPA combined, and that was very aggressively.

The Fit can get high numbers up with the best of them.
 
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