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Old 07-25-2018, 06:52 PM
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3rd gen 6mt swap into 2nd gen 5mt

Has anyone done this, or know if it is possible. I know there would need to be some changes, like the clutch disc and the pressure plate, and possibly the flywheel. Just wondering if it would have any benefit, fuel mileage, quicker pickup, etc.
 
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Old 07-25-2018, 09:33 PM
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if you could get it to fit (pun), then i imagine you'd reap all the benefits. longer final drive gear, more torque in 3,4,5. higher mpgs....
^ the 6 speed
^the 5 speed


here's a the 6speed at various prices used, and in case you just need to replace the 5speed.
 
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Old 07-25-2018, 10:12 PM
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The driver's side drive axle may be another issue (length, splines, hub, etc) as the parts did change from GE to GK
 
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Old 07-25-2018, 10:27 PM
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Thanks for the feedback guys. Just spitballing at the moment.
 
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Old 07-26-2018, 11:04 AM
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Knope,

Adding some tech info to go with your trans drawings.

Just for reference on the ,"longer final drive." I think the big gripe among the GK guys was that Honda screwed up and didn't change the final drive ratio. They only tightened up a few ration in between.

 
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Old 07-26-2018, 11:44 AM
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So... no real benefit except a lower 1st gear. I was hoping for fuel mileage with more of an overdrive. Thanks for all of the information.
 

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Old 07-26-2018, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Fujitacoma
So... no real benefit except a lower 1st gear. I was hoping for fuel mileage with more of an overdrive. Thanks for all of the information.

There is a thread on here somewhere, and a person was talking about reaching out to a gear maker or trans builder type of place and seeing what it would take to get a real 6th gear


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I went from a 2015 6spd to the 2018 CVT, and I am convinced that the fake 7spd paddle shifters have the fake 3-6th gears set up to mimic the true 6mt cars, then when I hit 7th the rpms drop again, then when you knock it to drive and out of sport, the rpms drop yet again. Whatever the ratio the CVT is using to act like it has a 7th gear would make for an amazing 6th in a true manual car.
 
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Old 07-26-2018, 03:11 PM
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Would love a genuine, lower rev on the highway-sixth gear. Makes me wonder if MPG would hit the 50s.

We definitely would have to remember to downshift into fifth otherwise that thing won't go anywhere.
 
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Old 07-26-2018, 05:44 PM
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sometimes, in 6th gear...... I wonder if I accidentally put myself into 4th gear =\
 
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Old 07-26-2018, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by evilchargerfan
sometimes, in 6th gear...... I wonder if I accidentally put myself into 4th gear =\
Same here, I find myself often second-guessing that shift to 6th. A 7th gear, true "overdrive" gear for the highway would be nice, or in reality just a taller 6th gear. It feels like it needs it.
 
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by CyclingFit
Knope,

Adding some tech info to go with your trans drawings.

Just for reference on the ,"longer final drive." I think the big gripe among the GK guys was that Honda screwed up and didn't change the final drive ratio. They only tightened up a few ration in between.

And the dif ratio? Would change everythig, even with no changes in gears ratio...
 
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Old 12-18-2018, 08:54 AM
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Well all this data makes me confident I don't need a 6MT swap.

We have the 6MT HR-V and the 6th still revs around 3K @ 115KMH. Just like all other 5 speeds. SMH.


WE WANT OVERDRIVE.
 
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