Joining the club soon, just placed an order for them. Kspec has the cheapest price I've seen ... coupled with a 10% code, my total came out to $240 with handling and free shipping.

 

Your gonna like the Swifts and when you upgrade your tires it gets even better.

 

My car has 46K miles and has some creeking coming from the front passenger side while going over bumps.

I bought the car used and don't know the history other than what was on Carfax, which was a clean bill of health.

For someone like me, would it be okay to run these springs or would it be better just to get a coilover set as my shocks might be on its way out anyway?

Anyone know the prices for new stock shocks? Can I go to like Midas and get their cheaper shocks to work with these springs?

 

If you replace the shocks you'll be replacing them with KYB Excel-G : ~$400
You don't have any cheaper choices afaik. They are OEM replacements.
If you add Swifts: ~$250 - $300
Total: $650 - $700
The Swifts will pair fine with the KYBs

You can get entry level coilovers for ~$850

At the end of the day it's really up to you. One of the main selling points of the Swifts IMO is it's a cheap relatively effective upgrade for people still running the shocks it was given from the factory. If you are replacing shocks at the same time, not sure if the cost difference makes sense, especially if you're just going with OEM replacement shocks. Koni will have some performance oriented shocks soon, rears are available now, but the fronts aren't to market yet.

I am not completely convinced your shocks are the culprit of your creaking given the mileage, probably worth investigating further before you shell out the money for new ones. Could definitely be the problem, i'm just saying verify first.

Or shotgun it and hope for the best. Some people will change shocks and think "hey that fixed it" but what really fixed it was taking everything apart and putting it back together again and tightening everything up

 

Wanderer, thank you for the info and advice!!!

Yes, I need to get that creeking checked out. There is no leaking from the struts that I can see, and the ride feels pretty tight.

 

Does anyone have measurements from the hub center to the fender with the swifts on? I cannot make up my mind. Im going back and forth with swifts and df210s.

 

Finally installed my Swifts, though not without some drama. I've done at least 15 suspension installs in my day, ranging from Integras to M3's to STI's and WRX's, and I've never stripped the allen key hole on the top of the shock. The driver's side was easy, but the passenger side was a complete pain. At one point I had two huge breaker bars attached to both my allen wrench and pass through wrench. I somehow malformed the shock threads so much I couldn't get the nut off, even with an impact wrench. Instead of paying upwards of $200 for a new OEM shock, I opted for a complete set of new KYB's for $300. I should have just gone over to my brother's house to use his air tools from the beginning.

The shocks arrived today and I finished up the install, including disassembling/reassembling the driver's side with the new shock, in 1.5 hours. This would have been one of the easiest suspension installs I've ever done if not for that pesky strut top nut on the passenger side.

The springs are amazing. I was expecting the ride to be a fair amount stiffer, but I honestly have a difficult time telling the difference in ride comfort from the stock setup. We have those large, flat-topped speed bumps in our neighborhood and going over them feels almost exactly the same. I'd say these springs are at the most 5% less comfortable over bumps than the stock setup. It wasn't until I got into some twisties did I really feel any difference. The body roll isn't completely gone, but it's much more controlled and confidence-inspiring. I'm very, very impressed and completely satisfied with the Swifts.

 

good deal @Shu I love my Swifts and I just turned 30K today and my stock shocks are holding up just fine.

I plan to replace the stock shocks with Koni STR.T or Yellows in the future but no real hurry at this time.

 

do you know any dates when the yellows will be released by any chance?

i dont care for fixed damp rate, i want adjustability.

 

I believe the Yellow rears are already available. Too bad our strut housings are too small to accept a Koni insert for the front.

 

yah, i did see the ones for the rear were available too.

ok, so the inserts are just too big for our current strut setup. that's why koni cant make the yellows at the moment. makes sense. thanx. i suppose i will have to look at coilovers in this case...or just accept the swifts the way they currently are.

any know if the STR.T is considerably stiffer than the '12-'13 dampers?

 

Right, hence why Chris at Redshift made custom coilover housings to accommodate Koni inserts. I think the only way we'll see adjustable Konis for our car is if they produce an entire shock replacement.

 

^^ yah, that defintely make sense...

will search around. ive not had good luck with tein as far as durability in the salt. the housing and spring paint cracks and chips off. so im looking at other options.

KW and PSS (bilstein) are great options, but not adjustable dampness.

 

maybe its due to my Spoon swaybar, but the ride got substantially worse with the springs.

 

It has to be the Spoon sway bar. Has your Progressive rear sway bar hampered the ride quality any?

 

That's disconcerting to hear, I've been seriously considering the Spoon fsb. Now that I've lived with the springs some, I'd say the ride is maybe 15% stiffer than stock; certainly not uncomfortable by any means.

 

i dont think the Progressive rear sway bar affected ride at all.

 

I can't recall anyone that has thought the Swift Mach Sport springs to be harsh riding but I don't recall that anyone had used a stiffer front anti-sway bar with them.. Installing one is a reasonable thing to do when using a rear anti-sway bar.. I loved the Swift springs but my car was too low when it was on the soft stock springs for where I drive. With the stiffer Swift springs my front bumper was still getting knocked loose because of the drop but the ride and handling was great.. I asked about the Progressive rear bar because I have one I have yet to install because my exhaust system is in the way of it.. I'll have to modify my exhaust so I can use it.. Thanks for the info.

 

i did not think the progress rear sway bar was that great a mod, honestly. i was disappointed at how people were talking about it being so great. the Spoon sway bar made me all giddy though.

 

GE-8s have a stiffer torsion beam than the GD-3s like I have and everyone swears that they are great on them.. I imagine you'd have to readjust your driving style quite a bit after installing one in order to get the most out of it.. Everything we do to these little cars compromises function somewhere else causing a need for other modification and expense to get dialed in right.. When you finally get things right it's very gratifying.