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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by codenamezero
Someone on top were saying, "no you don't need camber kit."
I was saying, that's not true, because if he slammed his car with -3* camber, is pretty bad for DD... In my previous post, i said is ok to not use a camber kit as long as is within -0.75 to -1.25 because that's what's the stock RSX runs anyway. I didn't suggest him to running zero camber.

Like you said, you run 2 degree camber up front for Autox, but we don't Autox everyday in the Fit, therefore 2 degree camber is certainly not quite suitable for DD... therefore, i suggested, the "optimal" camber settings which is between -0.5 to -1.25, which is more or less like the RSX Type-S' stock setting... which is similar to the Fit's suspension design...

So... if a person lowered his/her car, and have -1 degree camber, then he could get away without a camber kit. But if he slammed his car and have -3 degree camber, then he gotta get a camber kit.

That's what i'm saying.
It seems like you have never actually ran aggressive alignment on a dd. I do run very close to -3* in the front, on my civic (which has RSX spec Konis & custom GC setup), well at least I did for the past 2 years when I would autox it. & I never saw camber wear that everyone speaks of. If you are dumped & running aggressive camber, this goes back to the camber curve & the suspension design. Since its mcpherson strut, the suspension starts to lose camber gain under compression after being lowered 3 inches or so.

Originally Posted by solbrothers
camber doesnt matter, toe wears tires prematurely
this is the point I was trying to make in the last part of my last post, toe is a much more significant culprit of tire wear. & also what Diamond brought up regarding "excessive". You should be more specific when posting because there are going to be other readers who have no idea that there is a difference between 0* or -5* of camber but they may interpret it as a small variation, or decide to go with one of the extremes.

But blue drops his car .8" then he wont be close to aggressive camber settings that would cause premature tire wear as long as he gets his toe adjusted between 0 & +/- 1/32" or i can help convert that in degrees depending on what rims size he is running.
 
Old Jan 11, 2011 | 08:05 PM
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You sir are an idiot!

Originally Posted by codenamezero
May be fine for you or "look" fine for you, but it is a fact that EXCESSIVE camber WILL case added tire wear. So stop spreading false information. Toe obviously will eat up your tires much faster than camber.

Anyhow, just saying. Anything more than 2 degree camber, best get a camber kit.
 
Old Jan 11, 2011 | 08:07 PM
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You sir are correct.

Originally Posted by DiamondStarMonsters
Then the discussion becomes what is excessive.

solbrothers is right. Toe is the bigger enemy. 1-3 degrees of camber.. not so much depending on ride height and what the effective angles are during whatever style of driving the car actually sees.

Under/Over inflation will do more to wear down or damage your tires than camber in many cases.

But there is nothing wrong with getting your camber dialed in .
 
Old Jan 11, 2011 | 08:50 PM
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Please post something more constructive MugenAP2. What i am saying is that, there is no point of run excessive camber for a DD unless you track your car. Otherwise all the factory car would be running insane camber. :P

By stating that running 3 degree camber is fine, you are telling EVERYONE that running more camber is a good thing, is only good up to a point. Not everyone on this forum track their car. There are people who drive their Fit for DD, fuel economy, and want to reduce car maintenance cost. Camber, toe, under/over inflation all wears tires down, each of them would wear the tires down to a certain degree.
 
Old Jan 11, 2011 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by codenamezero
Please post something more constructive MugenAP2. What i am saying is that, there is no point of run excessive camber for a DD unless you track your car. Otherwise all the factory car would be running insane camber. :P

By stating that running 3 degree camber is fine, you are telling EVERYONE that running more camber is a good thing, is only good up to a point. Not everyone on this forum track their car. There are people who drive their Fit for DD, fuel economy, and want to reduce car maintenance cost. Camber, toe, under/over inflation all wears tires down, each of them would wear the tires down to a certain degree.
Again what is excessive? This is a grey area.

3 degrees when static can prove to be a lot on some cars, not so much on others because of what the actual angles are in real world conditions.

Even from Fit to Fit, GD v GE. Just like when modifying and engine. Two identical engines under identical conditions can, and do, put out different performances. The same goes for suspension setups/

"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is."
And I don't know that the crowd concerned with economy is going to overlap the crowd tinkering with camber....
 

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