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Old 03-05-2013, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Wafulz
but the s2k is 12in rotors
Yes, but the centerbore is bigger than the fit one. so you do not have a very good middle calibration.
i think a cheaper way is the 11in with nsx or dc2 calibers.

 
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I may be interested.
 
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by gold-civic
Yes, but the centerbore is bigger than the fit one. so you do not have a very good middle calibration.
i think a cheaper way is the 11in with nsx or dc2 calibers.


Here are some 11in rotors

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Old 03-07-2013, 09:50 PM
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How about doing an economy rear disc conversion?!
 
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Old 03-08-2013, 10:39 AM
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:04 AM
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I'm interested in a budget friendly F & R brake upgrade
Waflz - I like what ya got goin on but would have greater interest if rotor was only a 4x100 vs re-drilled. Creativity like this is essential for our Fits... especially the GD's.
 
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Old 04-19-2013, 05:51 AM
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That's a LOT of brake for our little cars! (swept area especially).

Good luck finding an affordable big 4x100 rotor!
 
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Old 04-19-2013, 03:40 PM
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I think that's a very bad idea drilling out a rotor to make it in to a 4 bolt like that. It looks like shit because one hole is half drilled through an existing one and in my opinion not safe at all. Why not just spend the extra money on a rotor that actually fits as opposed to..that. You guys have fun with that but i'll build mine properly.
 
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:23 PM
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I think that's a very bad idea drilling out a rotor to make it in to a 4 bolt like that. It looks like shit because one hole is half drilled through an existing one and in my opinion not safe at all. Why not just spend the extra money on a rotor that actually fits as opposed to..that. You guys have fun with that but i'll build mine properly.
It might not look "proper" but it will work just fine.
Because it is not the hole that hold the rotor properly in place,
but it is the CLAMPING Force by the Nut.
The rotors were clamped by the wheel and the hub.

so when you brake, the force of the brake were not transmitted to the bolt
but transmitted on the entire face of the rotor's Hat and the hub.

so unless you drilled the face of the rotor too much like cheese holes,
then it should not weaken the structure of the rotor at all.
 
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I know that much, but I don't think you're seeing the point I'm trying to make here. Why on earth would someone butcher an important safety device when you could just buy the proper part to begin with? Am I the only one that sees the logic in this? It's not necessary to do that when you can find a rotor, new or used, that you won't have to hack up and make it look stupid
 
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Old 04-21-2013, 12:14 AM
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I know that much, but I don't think you're seeing the point I'm trying to make here. Why on earth would someone butcher an important safety device when you could just buy the proper part to begin with? Am I the only one that sees the logic in this? It's not necessary to do that when you can find a rotor, new or used, that
you won't have to hack up and make it look stupid
On the other hand,
I see your point of view,
but I also see the starter of this thread "Wafulz" point of view.

From his first post at the top of this thread he said:


Originally Posted by Wafulz
Okay so i been talking to a good friend about making some kind of brake kit upgrade for us fits for a low price but OEM
So.... Im wondering if anyone was interested in a Front OEM 12in Brake kit upgrade will include caliper, rotor, brake pads new bolts brackets and a 5mm spacer is needed to make it clear It and u use ur stock brake lines
Reason we dnt wanna throw SS lines because it just costs more And for a OEM upgrade i doubt people will pay 400+ for it.............
So at a cost Of 300 flat Is great if u really think about it cuz i know i would not pay 400+ for a oem upgrade
We can paint the caliper any color as well for 10 bucks
There is someone on the forum running and testing will not release name but he loves it its cheap upgrade that works GREAT
Your point of view is you want to make your brake kit the "PROPER" way,

Wafulz point of view is to make as cheap as possible brake kit with 12in rotor that still work.

so everybody had their own point of view,

Although the brake rotor is an important safety device,
what Wafulz did for his propose 12in brake kit is still SAFE.
Yes, it might look like a BUTCHERED rotor to you,
but it is still SAFE.

Don't forget this Wafulz's S2000 rotors are 1 piece STEEL Rotors,
and Steel as a material is very strong,
so it won't had a problem with several extra holes,
especially holes that do NOT effect the load bearing capacity.
In fact, if you think about it, that extra holes would make it several grams lighter.
(although that several grams of weight is not going to effect the handling much hahaha)


Here is A-J racing big brake kit that sell for CAD$399 or around $400 USD
this kit do NOT include the caliper and do NOT include brake pads and only 11.2 in in diameter.
http://www.aj-racing.com/shop/produc...6&cat=0&page=1
if you include the brake caliper and pads it will be way more than $400 and it still NOT 12in in diameter.

Notice on the picture below (A-J Racing rotors) that it had many DRILLED holes ?
Yes, it does not have one holes drilled on top of each other like Wafulz rotors,
but the holes at the surface of rotors from A-J Racing do not looks "standard" either....
(it might came from Brembo already drilled like that,
or A-J Racing might drilled more holes on those rotors,
that I don't know,
but my point is there are many holes on that A-J Racing rotors,
still I am sure you are confident that it is a safe product, right?)






Point is, it is SAFE to drill more holes on the rotors like Wafulz did.
That One Holes that were drilled on top of each other will NOT create any problem because,
1. The Material of this S2000 rotors are Steel, so you won't have cracking problem easily here.
in theory, it is almost like you are making an ELONGATED hole so you can adjust the position of a bolt.
will an elongated hole create problem? Nope.
2. The holes is NOT load bearing, it only there to allow the stud to go through
3. The holes is NOT the factor that make the rotors hubcentric, it is
the center hub job to make the rotors hubcentric.

Yes, you might think the way Wafulz did to his rotor was stupid,
but to Wafulz,
I am sure he think that he was smart,
because
he could get the performance of a 12in brake with just $300 (within his budget).

Take note that the $300 propose price from Wafulz will include:
A Pair of caliper,
A Pair of 12in rotor, (BUTCHERED look but still SAFE)
A Pair of brake pads
A Pair of new bolts brackets and
A Pair 5mm spacer needed to make it clear

The LOGIC from Wafulz is:
It is NECESSARY to use the BUTCHERED look if you want a 12in brake rotor KIT
with just $300 in budget,
but
of course it is UNNECESSARY to BUTCHERED your rotor if you have a larger budget.

Here are 2 constructive way you can do for Wafulz (and for other reader of this board):

First way:
If you can point out how to make a similar 12in brake kit like what Wafulz propose above
with PROPER rotor for just $300 bucks, then you should post it here,
so Wafulz can learn the PROPER way that still within his budget
(or other here could buy/build the kit based on your recommendation but still at $300)
Perhaps you know other 12in OEM rotor that had 4x100pcd and same/larger center bore that can be used
for Honda Fit Front Brake kit, all while still within $300 budget with all the other hardware (caliper/pads/spacer/bolts)?


or

Second way,
If you think it is UNSAFE,
then you should post it here to warn Wafulz,
(with complete technical explanation on why you think it is UNSAFE)
because if it is really unsafe, Wafulz could face a potential lawsuit
from buyer of his propose brake kit if it fail.
(not to mention savings life of some people here).


I see that,
Wafulz is aiming to service a different niche of market, a market where budget is tight, and people don't care
for butchered looks as long as it works and SAFE and only cost $300.

BESIDE,
Once the kit is installed,
no one will be able to see the "BUTCHERED" rotors lug holes because
it will be hidden behind the wheels. (unless you take off your wheel).
but what people can see right away is the LARGER 12in ROTORS looks,
which I personally think is a NICE looks.

(and for extra $10, you can have your caliper PAINTED too!)
 

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A very well thought out post Alpina! Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I voiced mine, and that's where we'll end it
 
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Love it. Ended the conversation just like gentlemen.
 
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:12 AM
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BMW alpina no homo <33 wish I was smarter like u and can Be more detail .

The rotor is safe have no issue unjust gotta adjust to braking stops fast

And if u got the money and willing spend I can get u that 4x100 but not gunna cost 300 no more . And I doubt u would pay
 
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:37 AM
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Id rather have rear disc
 
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:49 AM
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Does it include installation? Lol
 
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by it's pronounced iVTEC
...... Why on earth would someone butcher an important safety device when you could just buy the proper part to begin with? Am I the only one that sees the logic in this? It's not necessary to do that when you can find a rotor, new or used, that you won't have to hack up and make it look stupid.....
Nope... I see your logic too... and agree.

There's plenty options or possibilities for our fronts... even a few very informative threads on here (ITR, another Acura (Legend?) front conversion, a few other ones too...).

Not the route for me either... but it might be the the route for others

Originally Posted by krunk13
Id rather have rear disc
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:24 AM
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Sounds good, let me know. I'd probably look into an alternate bolt rotation angle just to be sure or maybe you can plug the old hole and redrill (yea... its added cost, but it'll stop the bitching). Unfortunatley I do not want to pay upwards of 600 or more for a front brake upgrade kit, this car is afterall an economy car.

On a side note, the 10.3" rotors and pads on the FIT are COMPLETELY inadequate. It is of major concern that almost all sub compact vehicles have better stopping distance by SEVERAL FEET. I understand Honda's concern to keep things cheap, but safety is not one of them.
 

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Old 04-22-2013, 12:07 PM
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Ohh i can get the Rear KIt BUT no one will pay for it... IF u GOT THE MONEY IN HAND THEN PM ME but ur looking at 650+ for it includes everything BUT NO INSTALL

as for re drill disc Im still working on a better drilling for the holes

everyone has there opinion and i dnt mind but it works well for me so yeah
 


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