Seems like every other day something else starts to fall apart on this car.

I've got a 19 fit sport 6MT with 2k miles on it. Over the past week or so I've noticed it's getting significantly harder to shift into 1st or 2nd gear. While 3-6+R are smooth as butter. Today while driving home from work it would pop completely out of first gear so I stopped by Honda. They hit me with the ole "unable to replicate" response and as I go to pull out of the lot it popped right out of first gear again. So I took it back in and left it there.

Cars a Mexico built unit, engine and trans from Philippines or something or other. I've already had a slew of issues with the car (water leaks, alignment off, misaligned dash, horrible cold start + idle, miss/hesitation under light load throttle, improper PDI) so this is just icing on the cake for a 2 month old car.

Anyone else having issues with the 6MT? What are the actual chances of getting this fixed? They've already told me there is nothing they can do about leaks, dash, cold start & the miss/hesitation at low throttle assuming they're going to tell me to pound sand on this as well.

 

And here I thought they had all these issues fixed by now.

Maybe Id better hang onto my ‘15 Fit after all.

 

Hands down worst car I've ever owned and it's the only new car I've ever owned. Cannot wait to get rid of it and I waited over a year for one to come in.

 

I used to own a 2017 GK5; I had issues with my 2nd gear as well. VTC actuator started to rattle right at 35K miles as well.

Can't stand the sound of the direct injection either. This wasn't really a fault, but it made the car sound like it was running improperly and it's a crappy feeling hopping into a new car and having it make DI sounds.

 

someone elses thread/post mentions success with the water leak issue. find it, and ask the man how he was able to pull it off (got it covered under warranty as well, iirc)




*** update ***
perhaps this thread, would be useful to ya:
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/3rd-...r-leaks-6.html

 

And to think I was considering trading in my ‘15 Fit for a newer one, figuring Honda SURELY would have resolved all the build quality issues that plagued the ‘15s by now. I mean they’ve had over four years to get it right.

I guess not.

 

What happens in mexico stays in mexico.

 

No tranny problems with my 2018 Sport 6MT. Hope you can get your problems resolved.

 

I had a 2015 GK for 3 years with the 6MT. I raked up 130k kms and occasionally it would not go into 1st or 2nd gear. Other than that, butter smooth transmission. I traded in for the CVT. I love the CVT.

 

Looks like a hit or miss issues.

3 trips to dealership for it so far and all I'm getting is the standard "unable to duplicate" "operating normally"

I even took the service advisor out around the lot and made him try to shift into 1st & 2nd and he even said "yeah this isn't right" only to hand me my RO saying "operating normally" 🤷*♂️🤦*♂️🤮

I called corporate but they said they don't handle issues it's up to the dealership but they did offer to be a middle man so we'll see how that goes.

I've got Honda care extended warranty so I'm just going to keep going in every few weeks so there's a plethora of documentation for when it does eventually go.

 

See if you can get it on video too. The sucky part about manual transmissions and new cars is that ... based on what I gather ... the clutch system [i.e. pressure plate/bearings/disk] are not covered by any kind of warranty. I am not sure about the synchros or other transmission internals. I remember back in the day Mazda 3's had one year where the clutches were going bust before 30k miles and owners were getting pissed! I know that some dealers will cover issues like yours under warranty... so I guess it depends on your dealer and maybe a little bit of luck. Bad thing is that they can always blame it on "improper clutch operation" or any other nonsense.

Luckily... all you need is a bit of adjustment somewhere and voila the problem is gone.

Also .... check your transmission fluid level ... you never know. It's a 17mm bolt; you take that out and put your finger in. I did the trans fluid twice on this 6MT and it takes about 1.4 / 1.5 qt total capacity.

On my former suzuki esteem... I forgot to top off the transmission after a change ... and same day I lost gears 2, 3, 4 and was left with 1 and 5 running ok. For the world of me ... I could not figure out why so I drove like that for a while. My dad figured it out ... he topped off ... and just like that ... all gears were back in business.

Just my 2 cents. I wish you all the luck in getting your issue resolved.

 

You can force the Service person to add those comments like "road test indicated hard shifting by Tech 07156" in to the Service Record. I refused to pay after the second visit didn't solve my two issues - until those comments were added to my car's issues with an oil pressure sensor and ABS system (right before warranty went up). Both the sensor and ABS failed around 42K and they paid for it (I threatened to call Honda Corporate).

 

I have also used Ford MT fluid (they use what Mazda had originally developed and borrowed during their partnership) in my past MTs. The RX-8 and Miata owners, Mustang, and S2000 owners swear by Ford part # XT-M5-QS. The Redline equivalent (Redline MT-90 75W90 GL-4) also works well at temperature but it very notchy like you describe at colder MT temps until the fluid warms up. Many MT owners claim that changing fluids improved cold and/or at temperature notchiness.

 

Jesus this thread makes me uncomfortable with my 2 day old 2019 Sport M/T...

Will follow for updates... Good luck to you. And to me too I guess hah...

 

To comfort you ... I owned my 2015 Fit 6 speed for 3 years and 80k miles. I did 1st transmission fluid change at 50k miles; never had issues with it except for the occasional "won't go into 1st gear" issue after 40k miles or so. Stay confident ... Honda got their manuals well tuned by now.

 

^ Thanks for that Commander. I do realize that forums sometimes can make mountains out of mole hills since people who are unhappy are more likely to share their issues than people who are content and don't feel the need to say anything about it.

Hoping for 100-200k trouble free miles with this car. I do love it already.

 

You might find that the Ford Motorcraft MT fluid that meets Honds spec is better for getting the lever into 1st and Reverse as well works better in the cold. I use it in my Mazda RX-8 and the S2000 and Miata communities swear by it. Ford part XT-M5-QS. Spec attached.

 

I also have a 2019 Sport MT, built in July. It's not a daily driver, and so far it only has ~1500km on it.

Since the first day I drove it, I noticed that when upshifting from 1st to 2nd, and sometimes 2nd to 3rd, it kinda easily "pops out" of 1st and 2nd gears just as I'm about to take it *out* of 1st or 2nd. Not sure if I'm describing that clearly. At the same time, I find it a bit notchy when upshifting *into* 2nd, and I find it goes in more smoothly when I take my time.

All the higher gears shift fairly smoothly.

Overall, I find it a bit surprising, compared to my '98 Civic that also had a manual, or my 2004 Civic SiR EP3. These manuals were smooth as butter by comparison.

I also have the ~2000rpm hesitation that occurs at light throttle that others describe in other threads. Was hoping it would have been resolved by this model year. Am guessing it's a design flaw with the ECU/fuel/air, and not something actually broken, since it's been happening since the day one and others describe it also. But it certainly is a bit of a bug, because it seems surprising in this day and age. Again, my 20 year old Civic never did this.

 

Try a manual transmission fluid change for the shifting and getting into 1st gear - it could be that the break-in has changed the fluid viscosity and solids content. I've been impressed with Ford MT fluid - others like Redline MT90. See my comment above. Just make sure you match the viscosity grade AND GL# to Honda. Honda 2019 owners' manual says to use Honda MT (according to their TDS Genuine Honda Fluid 08798-9031 Manual Transmission Fluid is API GL-4 and looks like 75W90). Do not use GL-5 in this MT.

The new MT using in Honda cars is not the same as the older 1990-2000s MT that used just motor oil rated to API SJ or higher (we're now on SN and SN+).

 

Yup. That's exactly how mine started before 1k miles then it went to shit quick. Honda still jerking me around. It's literally impossible to shift into first and second now and they REFUSE to do anything about it.

I literally have to shift to 6th, pump clutch in neutral pump clutch again and force it into first. Second gear is impossible to upshift into I've been completely skipping it.

The fit is the biggest piece of shit I've ever owned. A/C went out. Alternator going out I've had a dead battery twice within the past week. Injectors defective horrible idle and missfire. VTC chatters like no other at start up. Water leaks out the wazoo. Misaligned panels everywhere. It's a $20k paperweight at this point.

I've been driving my CRV with 400k miles because I cannot stand driving the fit anymore. If they keep jerking me around I'm just going to smash it into a guardrail this winter let insurance pay it off and never purchase another Honda. I've owned nothing but Honda's since I was 14. I have 6 other Honda's (90 CRX with 300k, 92 EG Hatch with 180k, 97 Del Sol with 180k, 00 EK hatch with 240k, 01 GSR with 220k and a 01 CRV with 400k) and they all shift like butter still.