Test Drove an EX w/ CVT
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Can't seem to stop bashing the Fit Mike. Here we go again....
Honda Fit vs. Ford Fiesta: Compare Small Cars
1…Fit EX hatchback's cabin, which offers 93.8 cubic feet of space for passengers. The Fiesta SE hatchback is less accommodating—offering a maximum passenger volume of 85.1 cubic feet…
2…With the Fit EX hatchback's Smart Entry feature, you can unlock this compact car without fishing for your keys. Fiesta does not have this
3…The Fit EX hatchback features a standard 7-inch Display Audio touch-screen that recognizes multi-touch gestures like pinching and swiping. The Fiesta SE hatchback's 6.5-inch screen does not come standard.
4…The Fit EX hatchback makes no compromises—leading the subcompact segment with an unrivaled 52.7 cubic feet of maximum cargo space[1]. The Fiesta SE hatchback makes do with 25.4 cubic feet of cargo space.
5…Don’t turn the key—start the Fit EX hatchback with the push of a button. Fiesta does not have this
6…The Fit EX hatchback rides on lightweight, 16-inch alloy wheels. The Fiesta SE hatchback settles for 15-inch aluminum wheels.
7…The Fit EX hatchback's Earth Dreams Technology engine helped it earn an impressive 29-mpg city rating[1]. The Fiesta SE hatchback falls short at 27-mpg city.
8…The Fit EX hatchback comes equipped with the Honda LaneWatch™ display. Not so for Fiesta
Every Fiesta, and Honda Fit comparison sites give the Honda 2015 Fit the edge over Fiesta. OP did not want to buy the Fit, than bought a Fiesta instead, now coming back here again, and again to give his rant as to why he dislikes the Fit, often giving reason that make no sense. Honda is a better car over all, but Mike, after bad mouthing the new Fit, cannot seem to leave, and go to the fiesta forum because he mentioned earlier that its not as good as the FitFreak forum.
Mike comes back again a month later, and states he just took a test drive of the new Fit, which is goofy since he bought his Fiesta about a month ago, and has no intentions of buying the 2015, why the test drive then ? Why is he still coming back to this forum to bad mouth again the Fit ? Give it a break will you Mike. We know you have buyers remorse for a problematic Ford product, and just want to bad mouth Honda, again, and again and again.
Want to talk about your older Fit ? Please leave the 2015 board and go to the correct one regarding your GE model.
Honda Fit vs. Ford Fiesta: Compare Small Cars
1…Fit EX hatchback's cabin, which offers 93.8 cubic feet of space for passengers. The Fiesta SE hatchback is less accommodating—offering a maximum passenger volume of 85.1 cubic feet…
2…With the Fit EX hatchback's Smart Entry feature, you can unlock this compact car without fishing for your keys. Fiesta does not have this
3…The Fit EX hatchback features a standard 7-inch Display Audio touch-screen that recognizes multi-touch gestures like pinching and swiping. The Fiesta SE hatchback's 6.5-inch screen does not come standard.
4…The Fit EX hatchback makes no compromises—leading the subcompact segment with an unrivaled 52.7 cubic feet of maximum cargo space[1]. The Fiesta SE hatchback makes do with 25.4 cubic feet of cargo space.
5…Don’t turn the key—start the Fit EX hatchback with the push of a button. Fiesta does not have this
6…The Fit EX hatchback rides on lightweight, 16-inch alloy wheels. The Fiesta SE hatchback settles for 15-inch aluminum wheels.
7…The Fit EX hatchback's Earth Dreams Technology engine helped it earn an impressive 29-mpg city rating[1]. The Fiesta SE hatchback falls short at 27-mpg city.
8…The Fit EX hatchback comes equipped with the Honda LaneWatch™ display. Not so for Fiesta
Every Fiesta, and Honda Fit comparison sites give the Honda 2015 Fit the edge over Fiesta. OP did not want to buy the Fit, than bought a Fiesta instead, now coming back here again, and again to give his rant as to why he dislikes the Fit, often giving reason that make no sense. Honda is a better car over all, but Mike, after bad mouthing the new Fit, cannot seem to leave, and go to the fiesta forum because he mentioned earlier that its not as good as the FitFreak forum.
Mike comes back again a month later, and states he just took a test drive of the new Fit, which is goofy since he bought his Fiesta about a month ago, and has no intentions of buying the 2015, why the test drive then ? Why is he still coming back to this forum to bad mouth again the Fit ? Give it a break will you Mike. We know you have buyers remorse for a problematic Ford product, and just want to bad mouth Honda, again, and again and again.
Want to talk about your older Fit ? Please leave the 2015 board and go to the correct one regarding your GE model.
Thanks for the thoughtful review. I'm not a buyer for the '15 model either but that's simply because we don't need one at this point and (like the OP) we really like our '09.
Just one observation about the CVT: We just returned from Washington, DC in our '13 Accord with a CVT. The last time we made the trip was in our MT Fit. Going through the mountains in the Accord was less dramatic since you don't really notice the RPMs increasing to pull uphill. With the MT and cruise control, the accelerator would be on the floor and we'd have to downshift to keep any power to the wheels.
We noticed that with the CVT, on the long downhills, the car doesn't hold the speed we set but feels like it's coasting and gaining a little on the hill. That is something I have not encountered since our '71 Saab 99 with a free-wheeling manual transmission (don't buy one of these unless you own a flatbed tow truck).
I agree that these cars are becoming more and more like appliances. Everything works and when the weather is nice there really isn't much to think about. Even navi woman will wake me up when it's time to turn.
Cheers.
Just one observation about the CVT: We just returned from Washington, DC in our '13 Accord with a CVT. The last time we made the trip was in our MT Fit. Going through the mountains in the Accord was less dramatic since you don't really notice the RPMs increasing to pull uphill. With the MT and cruise control, the accelerator would be on the floor and we'd have to downshift to keep any power to the wheels.
We noticed that with the CVT, on the long downhills, the car doesn't hold the speed we set but feels like it's coasting and gaining a little on the hill. That is something I have not encountered since our '71 Saab 99 with a free-wheeling manual transmission (don't buy one of these unless you own a flatbed tow truck).
I agree that these cars are becoming more and more like appliances. Everything works and when the weather is nice there really isn't much to think about. Even navi woman will wake me up when it's time to turn.
Cheers.
"I couldn't care less what Consumer Reports says".
Thank god Honda cares, and now we have the 2015 Honda Fit.
"When I'm in the market for a vehicle for myself, safety is not a top priority, that's why I happily drove a 1991 Civic Si without any airbags for a year or so...and still regret selling that car EVERY DAY".
When your a few years older, married, and have children of driving age, I would speculate you will change your opinion on cars you purchase, as demonstrated by your next comment:
"I/We are going to buy a 2015 Fit EX WITH a CVT, for the person I care about most in the world. If I didn't think it was a very good car, I would not let her buy/drive it; the safety being a huge bonus because it is for her".
Finally, as for your comment:
"I'm going to say this, to clarify things for the couple of you who seem to think I'm trying to tear the car apart:"
The only negative statement directed at your posts, that I can find in this thread, is a reaction to your comments regarding Henry Ford, which in my opinion were uncalled for and have no place on this forum.
Thank god Honda cares, and now we have the 2015 Honda Fit.
"When I'm in the market for a vehicle for myself, safety is not a top priority, that's why I happily drove a 1991 Civic Si without any airbags for a year or so...and still regret selling that car EVERY DAY".
When your a few years older, married, and have children of driving age, I would speculate you will change your opinion on cars you purchase, as demonstrated by your next comment:
"I/We are going to buy a 2015 Fit EX WITH a CVT, for the person I care about most in the world. If I didn't think it was a very good car, I would not let her buy/drive it; the safety being a huge bonus because it is for her".
Finally, as for your comment:
"I'm going to say this, to clarify things for the couple of you who seem to think I'm trying to tear the car apart:"
The only negative statement directed at your posts, that I can find in this thread, is a reaction to your comments regarding Henry Ford, which in my opinion were uncalled for and have no place on this forum.
Can't seem to stop bashing the Fit Mike. Here we go again....
Honda Fit vs. Ford Fiesta: Compare Small Cars
1…Fit EX hatchback's cabin, which offers 93.8 cubic feet of space for passengers. The Fiesta SE hatchback is less accommodating—offering a maximum passenger volume of 85.1 cubic feet…
2…With the Fit EX hatchback's Smart Entry feature, you can unlock this compact car without fishing for your keys. Fiesta does not have this
3…The Fit EX hatchback features a standard 7-inch Display Audio touch-screen that recognizes multi-touch gestures like pinching and swiping. The Fiesta SE hatchback's 6.5-inch screen does not come standard.
4…The Fit EX hatchback makes no compromises—leading the subcompact segment with an unrivaled 52.7 cubic feet of maximum cargo space[1]. The Fiesta SE hatchback makes do with 25.4 cubic feet of cargo space.
5…Don’t turn the key—start the Fit EX hatchback with the push of a button. Fiesta does not have this
6…The Fit EX hatchback rides on lightweight, 16-inch alloy wheels. The Fiesta SE hatchback settles for 15-inch aluminum wheels.
7…The Fit EX hatchback's Earth Dreams Technology engine helped it earn an impressive 29-mpg city rating[1]. The Fiesta SE hatchback falls short at 27-mpg city.
8…The Fit EX hatchback comes equipped with the Honda LaneWatch™ display. Not so for Fiesta
Every Fiesta, and Honda Fit comparison sites give the Honda 2015 Fit the edge over Fiesta. OP did not want to buy the Fit, than bought a Fiesta instead, now coming back here again, and again to give his rant as to why he dislikes the Fit, often giving reason that make no sense. Honda is a better car over all, but Mike, after bad mouthing the new Fit, cannot seem to leave, and go to the fiesta forum because he mentioned earlier that its not as good as the FitFreak forum.
Mike comes back again a month later, and states he just took a test drive of the new Fit, which is goofy since he bought his Fiesta about a month ago, and has no intentions of buying the 2015, why the test drive then ? Why is he still coming back to this forum to bad mouth again the Fit ? Give it a break will you Mike. We know you have buyers remorse for a problematic Ford product, and just want to bad mouth Honda, again, and again and again.
Want to talk about your older Fit ? Please leave the 2015 board and go to the correct one regarding your GE model.
Honda Fit vs. Ford Fiesta: Compare Small Cars
1…Fit EX hatchback's cabin, which offers 93.8 cubic feet of space for passengers. The Fiesta SE hatchback is less accommodating—offering a maximum passenger volume of 85.1 cubic feet…
2…With the Fit EX hatchback's Smart Entry feature, you can unlock this compact car without fishing for your keys. Fiesta does not have this
3…The Fit EX hatchback features a standard 7-inch Display Audio touch-screen that recognizes multi-touch gestures like pinching and swiping. The Fiesta SE hatchback's 6.5-inch screen does not come standard.
4…The Fit EX hatchback makes no compromises—leading the subcompact segment with an unrivaled 52.7 cubic feet of maximum cargo space[1]. The Fiesta SE hatchback makes do with 25.4 cubic feet of cargo space.
5…Don’t turn the key—start the Fit EX hatchback with the push of a button. Fiesta does not have this
6…The Fit EX hatchback rides on lightweight, 16-inch alloy wheels. The Fiesta SE hatchback settles for 15-inch aluminum wheels.
7…The Fit EX hatchback's Earth Dreams Technology engine helped it earn an impressive 29-mpg city rating[1]. The Fiesta SE hatchback falls short at 27-mpg city.
8…The Fit EX hatchback comes equipped with the Honda LaneWatch™ display. Not so for Fiesta
Every Fiesta, and Honda Fit comparison sites give the Honda 2015 Fit the edge over Fiesta. OP did not want to buy the Fit, than bought a Fiesta instead, now coming back here again, and again to give his rant as to why he dislikes the Fit, often giving reason that make no sense. Honda is a better car over all, but Mike, after bad mouthing the new Fit, cannot seem to leave, and go to the fiesta forum because he mentioned earlier that its not as good as the FitFreak forum.
Mike comes back again a month later, and states he just took a test drive of the new Fit, which is goofy since he bought his Fiesta about a month ago, and has no intentions of buying the 2015, why the test drive then ? Why is he still coming back to this forum to bad mouth again the Fit ? Give it a break will you Mike. We know you have buyers remorse for a problematic Ford product, and just want to bad mouth Honda, again, and again and again.
Want to talk about your older Fit ? Please leave the 2015 board and go to the correct one regarding your GE model.
To begin with, I do have intentions of purchasing a 2015, that mandates a test drive.
Where am I bad mouthing the car? I will never BASH Honda, the first car I ever really enjoyed...was a Honda. BTW, I had a GD, I just drive a '12 5MT on a very regular basis.
Now point-by-point.
1.) This is not a direct comparison between Fit and Fiesta, just things I noticed about the car versus experiences I've had in other cars, whether they're my GD, a GE, the Fiesta, my old Integra, Civic Si, etc.
The Fit is WAY bigger than my Fiesta inside, I'll gladly acknowledge that anytime..
I only said that the headroom in the rear seat is lacking next to the GD/GE, in my view that was forced by the unnecessary (in my opinion) shifting back of the rear seats.
2.) Smart Entry is not a priority for me, its 'neat.' Not much more (for me).
3.) I don't even have a touch screen in my Fiesta, again FOR ME, this is not a priority.
4.) Again, I concede the Fit is much larger inside.
5.) Another feature...I just don't care about.
6.) I would prefer 15" wheels. I'll probably end up putting 15's with nice summer tires on the car anyway.
7.) MY Fiesta is rated for 31/43. I've 49.4 MPG since taking delivery.
Not a dig on the Fit, the 1L EcoBoost is incredible in this respect.
8.) LaneWatch display is super cool. I know how to turn over my shoulder/check my mirrors though...
The Honda is a better car for most people. The Fiesta fit MY needs, at a lower price, with better financing; while providing cool turbo noises that I thoroughly enjoy.
I do not regret my decision, just as I'm sure most '15 Fit will not regret their own (and I sincerely hope they don't).
Last edited by mike410b; Nov 20, 2019 at 04:26 PM.
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"Agreed. If I were buying a new car and I HAD to get a brand new Fit...I'd be on the hunt for a left over 2013 Sport 5MT".
That would be the model Consumer Reports said it could no longer recommend, due to it's miserable failure of the frontal offset crash test. In fact, they went out of the way to mention the fact it did worse than any other car in it's class. Here was the articles exact quote:
"Consumer Reports especially singles out the Fit here, saying it and the Fiat 500 performed the worst in the test".
This was what motivated me to sell our 2008 Fit and replace it with the new Honda 2015. Honda expects the new 2015 to ace the crash tests, and I bet they crashed quite a few themselves to make sure.
That would be the model Consumer Reports said it could no longer recommend, due to it's miserable failure of the frontal offset crash test. In fact, they went out of the way to mention the fact it did worse than any other car in it's class. Here was the articles exact quote:
"Consumer Reports especially singles out the Fit here, saying it and the Fiat 500 performed the worst in the test".
This was what motivated me to sell our 2008 Fit and replace it with the new Honda 2015. Honda expects the new 2015 to ace the crash tests, and I bet they crashed quite a few themselves to make sure.
They can test all the want for crushing, side impact, roll over etc etc but the fact of the matter is a car crash, even at moderate speeds, can kill you. It's best to be very vigilant and to drive safely and beware of dangerous drivers. Even though Honda has refined the security in their cars since 2007, I still feel very safe in my GD but that is a result of driving style as well as included safety features. Of course if probably be safer in a land rover but I'm in a Fit so I must drive accordingly.
Mike
Thanks for the detailed review. I am still happy with my 2010 GE & have no plans to purchase the new model. I prefer the styling of the GE over the GK just as most GD owners preferred that style over the GE when it first came out.
However, I am glad Honda added many of the features us older Fit owners wanted to the new model. I'd love a moon-roof. I wonder if the carpet is improved as well. My carpet wore a hole in it by the gas pedal within the first 9 months so the dealer installed all new carpeting for me. I had to very deliberately hold my foot in a different position so as to not wear another hole--which is ridiculous-- my previous car was a 1995 Subaru and that carpet was in better shape than my Fit's
I wonder how the new Fit compares to a Prius C.
Thanks for the detailed review. I am still happy with my 2010 GE & have no plans to purchase the new model. I prefer the styling of the GE over the GK just as most GD owners preferred that style over the GE when it first came out.
However, I am glad Honda added many of the features us older Fit owners wanted to the new model. I'd love a moon-roof. I wonder if the carpet is improved as well. My carpet wore a hole in it by the gas pedal within the first 9 months so the dealer installed all new carpeting for me. I had to very deliberately hold my foot in a different position so as to not wear another hole--which is ridiculous-- my previous car was a 1995 Subaru and that carpet was in better shape than my Fit's
I wonder how the new Fit compares to a Prius C.
Mike
Thanks for the detailed review. I am still happy with my 2010 GE & have no plans to purchase the new model. I prefer the styling of the GE over the GK just as most GD owners preferred that style over the GE when it first came out.
However, I am glad Honda added many of the features us older Fit owners wanted to the new model. I'd love a moon-roof. I wonder if the carpet is improved as well. My carpet wore a hole in it by the gas pedal within the first 9 months so the dealer installed all new carpeting for me. I had to very deliberately hold my foot in a different position so as to not wear another hole--which is ridiculous-- my previous car was a 1995 Subaru and that carpet was in better shape than my Fit's
I wonder how the new Fit compares to a Prius C.
Thanks for the detailed review. I am still happy with my 2010 GE & have no plans to purchase the new model. I prefer the styling of the GE over the GK just as most GD owners preferred that style over the GE when it first came out.
However, I am glad Honda added many of the features us older Fit owners wanted to the new model. I'd love a moon-roof. I wonder if the carpet is improved as well. My carpet wore a hole in it by the gas pedal within the first 9 months so the dealer installed all new carpeting for me. I had to very deliberately hold my foot in a different position so as to not wear another hole--which is ridiculous-- my previous car was a 1995 Subaru and that carpet was in better shape than my Fit's
I wonder how the new Fit compares to a Prius C.
GK > Prius C by a long shot.
The Prius C is a car I've test driven twice, each time with it being a front runner...then the realization sets in that it is really not very good.
Ride is stiffer than the Fit (but not in an athletic, confidence inspiring way), car is even louder (while being incredibly slow) and the interior wreaks of cheapness. Would not consider one for a second.
I've driven 2 EX CVTs so far for work and put some of my comments/suggestions in bold.
So ROTTBOY, this one is for you. I went out and drove the car.
I'll begin with little annoyances that have nothing to do with the driving experience:
-Rear seats have less headroom than GD/GE, significantly less. I (6' tall) can't sit in the rear seats with them reclined without bashing my head on the headliner.
I understand we all have different body builds but for some reason I can sit in the back of a GK much more comfortably that I can in my GD with the driver's seat set to my positioning. Then again, I am a bit of a lanky guy... Maybe you have a longer torso than others which may have you do that.
-Hootie
-Lack of physical volume controls are rather annoying, did not expect to be so intrusive
Annoying yes but once you get used to the steering controls, you'll forget about it. You can press and hold the + or - on the touch screen to get to volume to quickly raise or lower... maybe even slide your finger up and down the pad to do the same. -Hootie
-Armrest is way too low for driver (as others have noticed), however its nicely placed for the front passenger.
Try lowering the driver's seat more. It was in a good position for me at least. -Hootie
-Magic seats do not fold 100% flat as in the GD/GE.
I noticed this as well with the second GK5 I've driven. Minor bummer but good be annoying to look at if you use refresh mode all the time. -Hootie
Things I did like (again, not directly related to vehicle dynamics):
-MPG readout on central display is cool.
-Gauges are gorgeous, seems to be Honda's greatest strength in their current line-up
-HVAC dials looked/felt great, very upscale.
-Driver centric vehicle layout was nice, with the screen angled toward the driver, cupholder next to steering wheel, etc.
-Rear seats themselves were comfortable, huge amounts of leg room (at expense of headroom of course)
-Rear headrests are greatly improved over the GE.
-Touch screen looks great, did not play with its functionality.
-HDMI input is cool to have.
-Appreciate the hidden plug-ins within the armrest.
Agreed, I was also highly impressed with the improved material feel and look with this new 3rd gen Fit. -Hootie
Driving dislikes:
-CVT is LOUD under heavy acceleration
Direct injection + CVT trans = 'Nuff said -Hootie
-Steering is a bit light for my tastes (though still heavier than my Fiesta's)
I noticed this as well... It seemed as if the steering is lighter than the GD but heavier than the GE. As well as didn't provide nearly as much driver feed back in terms of where the front wheels are point AND what are they doing. I wouldn't see this to be confidence inspiring if someone were to autocross or take the GK5 on occasional spirited drives or canyon runs. Maybe 205/50R16s, a stickier tire, suspension work, or a combination of these would aid that lacking feel. -Hootie
-Paddles will not give me total control of what gear I'm in. If I want to lug along in "7th" I should be able to do so, IMO.
I HATED this. I do not like how the CVTs WILL upshift for you if you are near redline. The shift lockout for higher gears I can somewhat understand for engine lugging but there needs to be a little more leeway with downshift lockouts and the forced upshifts. -Hootie
-Never felt "special" or "soul-ful," where the GD felt like it was more than just an economy car, the GK just feels like a nice small car. Nothing more, nothing less.
Yes, the GK seems to be a little lacking in the "fun to drive" department compared to the GD... But let's face it the GD is lighter, had less driver assists than both the GE and GK, came equipped with wider (but still crappy) tires as standard equipment on Sports (or other 15in wheel trims).
Overall, the GD is more a "fun to drive and practical, Honda hatch that is fuel efficient" like Honda used to make in the late 90's/early 00's opposed to being the new "economy-minded and practical, Honda hatch that is 'supposed' to be fun to drive" like the GK if you catch my drift. Mind you, GK owners/readers I am not bashing the car... I am simply saying that the Honda changed their goals/build criteria with the GK to better suite what they seen in its market segment. -Hootie
Driving likes:
-Engine is peppy
DOHC and Direct Injection for the win.
-Hootie
-LaneWatch is awesome, GF loved it.
Bleh, dead weight/unneeded driver's aid. -Hootie
-Steering still feels to be at the top of its class.
Low speed feedback under 10 to 15 MPH isn't all that great, with a little more speed the feedback is improved but still causes me to wonder on earth are those front wheels pointing. -Hootie
Summary:
The GK does not feel like a Fit. Its much more a mix of a Versa Note, a Fiesta and a Fit. Its quieter/more comfortable, like a Fiesta; huge in back like a Note; fairly decent along the lines of a Fit of yesteryear.
See above comment about marketing criteria. -Hootie
I'll begin with little annoyances that have nothing to do with the driving experience:
-Rear seats have less headroom than GD/GE, significantly less. I (6' tall) can't sit in the rear seats with them reclined without bashing my head on the headliner.
I understand we all have different body builds but for some reason I can sit in the back of a GK much more comfortably that I can in my GD with the driver's seat set to my positioning. Then again, I am a bit of a lanky guy... Maybe you have a longer torso than others which may have you do that.
-Hootie-Lack of physical volume controls are rather annoying, did not expect to be so intrusive
Annoying yes but once you get used to the steering controls, you'll forget about it. You can press and hold the + or - on the touch screen to get to volume to quickly raise or lower... maybe even slide your finger up and down the pad to do the same. -Hootie
-Armrest is way too low for driver (as others have noticed), however its nicely placed for the front passenger.
Try lowering the driver's seat more. It was in a good position for me at least. -Hootie
-Magic seats do not fold 100% flat as in the GD/GE.
I noticed this as well with the second GK5 I've driven. Minor bummer but good be annoying to look at if you use refresh mode all the time. -Hootie
Things I did like (again, not directly related to vehicle dynamics):
-MPG readout on central display is cool.
-Gauges are gorgeous, seems to be Honda's greatest strength in their current line-up
-HVAC dials looked/felt great, very upscale.
-Driver centric vehicle layout was nice, with the screen angled toward the driver, cupholder next to steering wheel, etc.
-Rear seats themselves were comfortable, huge amounts of leg room (at expense of headroom of course)
-Rear headrests are greatly improved over the GE.
-Touch screen looks great, did not play with its functionality.
-HDMI input is cool to have.
-Appreciate the hidden plug-ins within the armrest.
Agreed, I was also highly impressed with the improved material feel and look with this new 3rd gen Fit. -Hootie
Driving dislikes:
-CVT is LOUD under heavy acceleration
Direct injection + CVT trans = 'Nuff said -Hootie
-Steering is a bit light for my tastes (though still heavier than my Fiesta's)
I noticed this as well... It seemed as if the steering is lighter than the GD but heavier than the GE. As well as didn't provide nearly as much driver feed back in terms of where the front wheels are point AND what are they doing. I wouldn't see this to be confidence inspiring if someone were to autocross or take the GK5 on occasional spirited drives or canyon runs. Maybe 205/50R16s, a stickier tire, suspension work, or a combination of these would aid that lacking feel. -Hootie
-Paddles will not give me total control of what gear I'm in. If I want to lug along in "7th" I should be able to do so, IMO.
I HATED this. I do not like how the CVTs WILL upshift for you if you are near redline. The shift lockout for higher gears I can somewhat understand for engine lugging but there needs to be a little more leeway with downshift lockouts and the forced upshifts. -Hootie
-Never felt "special" or "soul-ful," where the GD felt like it was more than just an economy car, the GK just feels like a nice small car. Nothing more, nothing less.
Yes, the GK seems to be a little lacking in the "fun to drive" department compared to the GD... But let's face it the GD is lighter, had less driver assists than both the GE and GK, came equipped with wider (but still crappy) tires as standard equipment on Sports (or other 15in wheel trims).
Overall, the GD is more a "fun to drive and practical, Honda hatch that is fuel efficient" like Honda used to make in the late 90's/early 00's opposed to being the new "economy-minded and practical, Honda hatch that is 'supposed' to be fun to drive" like the GK if you catch my drift. Mind you, GK owners/readers I am not bashing the car... I am simply saying that the Honda changed their goals/build criteria with the GK to better suite what they seen in its market segment. -Hootie
Driving likes:
-Engine is peppy
DOHC and Direct Injection for the win.
-Hootie-LaneWatch is awesome, GF loved it.
Bleh, dead weight/unneeded driver's aid. -Hootie
-Steering still feels to be at the top of its class.
Low speed feedback under 10 to 15 MPH isn't all that great, with a little more speed the feedback is improved but still causes me to wonder on earth are those front wheels pointing. -Hootie
Summary:
The GK does not feel like a Fit. Its much more a mix of a Versa Note, a Fiesta and a Fit. Its quieter/more comfortable, like a Fiesta; huge in back like a Note; fairly decent along the lines of a Fit of yesteryear.
See above comment about marketing criteria. -Hootie
I'm 6' tall and have a ~31" inseam...for those wondering how I didn't quite fit.
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He's referring to the 6 speed select shift ford transmission, which is god awful.
If you were comparing an automatic fiesta to an automatic fit, the fiesta would lose on the basis of transmission performance. I personally also dislike the ford interior on the fiesta. Too many buttons and the display is too high up.
I also find the fit loud at higher rpm. I spent the morning putting $100 of MLV on the firewall and now all is well again.
If you were comparing an automatic fiesta to an automatic fit, the fiesta would lose on the basis of transmission performance. I personally also dislike the ford interior on the fiesta. Too many buttons and the display is too high up.
I also find the fit loud at higher rpm. I spent the morning putting $100 of MLV on the firewall and now all is well again.
Thanks!
Last edited by Argentum; Jul 27, 2014 at 05:06 PM.
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I however am a 5' tall, tiny girl and the car feels like a minivan to me
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Does this picture bring back memories? It is a '70 or '71. We saw this car in Davenport, IA, two years ago. Of course it was parked at an auto shop. This one was in really good shape (not running doesn't count against the car with a Saab, of course, since they never run for long). You can see my friend's interest in the car. She still says that the seats were the most comfortable we ever had in a car; she had to spend so much time sitting in them waiting for a tow.
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Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 66
From: North Carolina
Ha ha, yes! I had a white one, a blue one, and a yellow wagon (95). The white was the one that "ran" and the blue and yellow were for parts. I did not have them long and literally could not give them away when I gave up.
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Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 323
From: Denver, CO
I own both a 2015 EX-L with Navi Fit and a 2013 Prius C Three. I discussed some of this here: https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/3rd-...ex-l-navi.html
You give up some features in the Prius C but of course you gain the hybrid aspect. Very much worth it for me, averaging 60 mpg! If the interior looked like it does on the Fit the car would cost as much as the standard Prius. It is all about trade-offs, and if you drive enough miles to make the gas savings worth it, the Prius C can be a wonderful vehicle for you.
You give up some features in the Prius C but of course you gain the hybrid aspect. Very much worth it for me, averaging 60 mpg! If the interior looked like it does on the Fit the car would cost as much as the standard Prius. It is all about trade-offs, and if you drive enough miles to make the gas savings worth it, the Prius C can be a wonderful vehicle for you.
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Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 237
From: Dallas, TX
"Agreed. If I were buying a new car and I HAD to get a brand new Fit...I'd be on the hunt for a left over 2013 Sport 5MT".
That would be the model Consumer Reports said it could no longer recommend, due to it's miserable failure of the frontal offset crash test. In fact, they went out of the way to mention the fact it did worse than any other car in it's class. Here was the articles exact quote:
"Consumer Reports especially singles out the Fit here, saying it and the Fiat 500 performed the worst in the test".
This was what motivated me to sell our 2008 Fit and replace it with the new Honda 2015. Honda expects the new 2015 to ace the crash tests, and I bet they crashed quite a few themselves to make sure.
That would be the model Consumer Reports said it could no longer recommend, due to it's miserable failure of the frontal offset crash test. In fact, they went out of the way to mention the fact it did worse than any other car in it's class. Here was the articles exact quote:
"Consumer Reports especially singles out the Fit here, saying it and the Fiat 500 performed the worst in the test".
This was what motivated me to sell our 2008 Fit and replace it with the new Honda 2015. Honda expects the new 2015 to ace the crash tests, and I bet they crashed quite a few themselves to make sure.
Thanks
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Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 139
From: Western North Carolina, Shelby
Carpet didn't seem much improved to be honest, hopefully time will prove me wrong.
GK > Prius C by a long shot.
The Prius C is a car I've test driven twice, each time with it being a front runner...then the realization sets in that it is really not very good.
Ride is stiffer than the Fit (but not in an athletic, confidence inspiring way), car is even louder (while being incredibly slow) and the interior wreaks of cheapness. Would not consider one for a second.
GK > Prius C by a long shot.
The Prius C is a car I've test driven twice, each time with it being a front runner...then the realization sets in that it is really not very good.
Ride is stiffer than the Fit (but not in an athletic, confidence inspiring way), car is even louder (while being incredibly slow) and the interior wreaks of cheapness. Would not consider one for a second.
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