Looks like C&D is EH about the 3rd gen long term test so far.
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If you can accurately shift at redline with the tach winding up fast in first gear at WOT you're The Stig on Adderall. Mere mortals will err by 500RPM or so, preferably on the low side!
99% of drivers don't get near redline in normal driving.
99% of drivers don't get near redline in normal driving.
Lemme help you with the arithmetic. At the 6,800 rpm redline, it's 3,844 rpm, or about 1,000 rpm below the GE 4,800 rpm torque peak. Not a lot better than the GK which has a lower torque peak. Even if you bang it off the rev limiter at 7,000, you're at 3,957 in second at best--1,000 rpm below your 5,000 dream. [edit] If you're really seeing 5,000, your clutch is slipping pretty badly when you hit second.
Yes I know, the math shows it but I will try anyway. There may be some clutch slippage like you said, but I don't think so because it will still chirp the tires.
You can just glance at the tach when you know you're close. It's just a Fit, it doesn't accelerate that fast. Or just tag the limiter.
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It was a lot more embarrassing with a carbed setup where the ignition started skipping every other firing on each cylinder at the limit. Lots of popping in the exhaust!
The only thing I really agree with about the review is to get the EX over the LX--no question.
As George L once astutely pointed out, if these auto journalists have to downshift from top gear while climbing a grade or passing, they say the car is gutless. So instead of putting a sixth gear above the GE's fifth, where it was actually needed, Honda put it between the GE's 4th and 5th, which was already about perfectly spaced, and where it just gets in the way. And it still screams along at almost 4,000 rpm at 75 mph compared to the CVT's relaxed 2,500 rpm.
The Fit's manual ratios are probably the most poorly chosen ones I've ever seen. First gear is almost a granny gear and there's a huge drop between it and second gear. You can run 1st to almost 7,000 rpm and when you hit second, you're still about 1,000 rpm below the torque peak. It's way too widely spaced down low and way to closely spaced up top.
So Honda produces a six-speed for the car reviewers and a damned sporty CVT for the rest of us.
As George L once astutely pointed out, if these auto journalists have to downshift from top gear while climbing a grade or passing, they say the car is gutless. So instead of putting a sixth gear above the GE's fifth, where it was actually needed, Honda put it between the GE's 4th and 5th, which was already about perfectly spaced, and where it just gets in the way. And it still screams along at almost 4,000 rpm at 75 mph compared to the CVT's relaxed 2,500 rpm.
The Fit's manual ratios are probably the most poorly chosen ones I've ever seen. First gear is almost a granny gear and there's a huge drop between it and second gear. You can run 1st to almost 7,000 rpm and when you hit second, you're still about 1,000 rpm below the torque peak. It's way too widely spaced down low and way to closely spaced up top.
So Honda produces a six-speed for the car reviewers and a damned sporty CVT for the rest of us.
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