Anyone else get a loose engine splash shield under their car?
#202
Maybe we should all write our phone numbers on our splash shields so they can find their way home if (when) they fall off.
#204
I've been watching mine carefully for the 16 months I've had my car and have had no problems. I did my first oil and filter in the driveway about 6 months ago and had no problem re-attaching the shield. It's been fine.
Today I took my car to the dealership for the first time for oil and filter. When I arrived home, 3 or 4 minute drive, I looked under the car. The splash shield is hanging. The rear right fastener is not even there. AM I ANNOYED!!!!
Today I took my car to the dealership for the first time for oil and filter. When I arrived home, 3 or 4 minute drive, I looked under the car. The splash shield is hanging. The rear right fastener is not even there. AM I ANNOYED!!!!
#205
Notice Honda provided the "Depend" pad to absorb the oil in the event of a leak. So, instead of getting washed out, it stays with the undercover forever. Great idea, Honda. It is not something you can go to the parts and say, I need some of them Honda Depend Pads
Last edited by wasserball; 07-07-2017 at 07:44 PM.
#206
I've been watching mine carefully for the 16 months I've had my car and have had no problems. I did my first oil and filter in the driveway about 6 months ago and had no problem re-attaching the shield. It's been fine.
Today I took my car to the dealership for the first time for oil and filter. When I arrived home, 3 or 4 minute drive, I looked under the car. The splash shield is hanging. The rear right fastener is not even there. AM I ANNOYED!!!!
Today I took my car to the dealership for the first time for oil and filter. When I arrived home, 3 or 4 minute drive, I looked under the car. The splash shield is hanging. The rear right fastener is not even there. AM I ANNOYED!!!!
#207
It's a shame that dealers can't be good. All they have to do is be honest.
#208
2016 LX, <10K: Scraped a parking bumper ever-so-slightly (seemed like). Two days later, heard flapping on the highway and then discovered the plate was sagging on one side.
Thank goodness it's not a major issue, and for all the info. here.
Thank goodness it's not a major issue, and for all the info. here.
#209
Those plastic "screws" aren't really screws. They are expansion fasteners where you push the "screw" straight into the expanding part to spread the end out. The "threads" are just there to make it easier to remove. If you do the normal thing and push inward while unscrewing it will just stay in place, feeling like the thread is stripped. If you push inward with a very light touch it will come right out. Not a fastener for a ham-handed mechanic.
To reinstall, you don't have to screw it in. Just push the "screw" straight in and you are done. You can't get it tight since it isn't made to tighten.
Yes, Honda could have done it better, but it is really just made to facilitate assembly. the push fasteners do the initial positioning for the insertion of the metal screws.
To reinstall, you don't have to screw it in. Just push the "screw" straight in and you are done. You can't get it tight since it isn't made to tighten.
Yes, Honda could have done it better, but it is really just made to facilitate assembly. the push fasteners do the initial positioning for the insertion of the metal screws.
#210
Those plastic "screws" aren't really screws. They are expansion fasteners where you push the "screw" straight into the expanding part to spread the end out. The "threads" are just there to make it easier to remove. If you do the normal thing and push inward while unscrewing it will just stay in place, feeling like the thread is stripped. If you push inward with a very light touch it will come right out. Not a fastener for a ham-handed mechanic.
To reinstall, you don't have to screw it in. Just push the "screw" straight in and you are done. You can't get it tight since it isn't made to tighten.
Yes, Honda could have done it better, but it is really just made to facilitate assembly. the push fasteners do the initial positioning for the insertion of the metal screws.
To reinstall, you don't have to screw it in. Just push the "screw" straight in and you are done. You can't get it tight since it isn't made to tighten.
Yes, Honda could have done it better, but it is really just made to facilitate assembly. the push fasteners do the initial positioning for the insertion of the metal screws.
#212
Someone in this thread suggested that the ability of the engine cover to easily fall off is an intentional design element. Perhaps the idea is, that if you hit it, instead of bending and breaking and perhaps moving upwards and damaging the engine in the process, it just falls downward and off. Perhaps the little clips that the screws go into, will just slide away from their location. The plastic clips will easily shear or pull apart. Only problem is, as GeorgeL's comment has hinted, people, including "Honda technicians" have been using the plastic clips incorrectly – and damaging them by putting too much down-force on them when they try to remove them with a screwdriver.
By the way, it is a simple matter to replace the screwoid clips, part number number 91514-TG1-T01 with the more straightforward and less screwy bumper clips, part number – for which it is obvious that they are need to be pried apart rather than unscrewed, and pushed in rather than screwed in. They are both for fastening two sheets of material each having a 10 mm hole.
By the way, it is a simple matter to replace the screwoid clips, part number number 91514-TG1-T01 with the more straightforward and less screwy bumper clips, part number – for which it is obvious that they are need to be pried apart rather than unscrewed, and pushed in rather than screwed in. They are both for fastening two sheets of material each having a 10 mm hole.
Last edited by nomenclator; 09-22-2017 at 10:36 AM.
#213
Had my third oil change at the dealer yesterday. Today, just driving down the freeway, and a horrible flapping noise came from the front, felt through the steering column. Pulled over on the freeway....you guessed it. Splash shield had come off completely in back, still secured in front, looked torn. Somehow I managed to stuff it back in enough to get home. Sent the dealer an email explaining the situation, wondering if they had not secured the clips after draining the oil, and to please advise. Once they get back to me, I'll post here.
#214
Had my third oil change at the dealer yesterday. Today, just driving down the freeway, and a horrible flapping noise came from the front, felt through the steering column. Pulled over on the freeway....you guessed it. Splash shield had come off completely in back, still secured in front, looked torn. Somehow I managed to stuff it back in enough to get home. Sent the dealer an email explaining the situation, wondering if they had not secured the clips after draining the oil, and to please advise. Once they get back to me, I'll post here.
#215
There are too many documented cases where after a dealer oil change the splash shield has come off, causing issues with who is at fault. Dealers may or may not admit and fix their error. I don't want to take a chance. Honda should clarify this uncertainty.
#216
Yeah, I know that getting oil changes at the dealership is perhaps not the best idea, but they have the cheapest rates around for synthetic. $21.95 for Mobil 1 with a coupon, came to just under $26 with tax/disposal fee etc. The cheapest synthetic change I can get anywhere else locally is at least $20 more. I know the dealer uses the oil change as a loss leader just to get you in, and that's OK, but when the splash shield comes apart as you're driving, no fun.
#218
Yeah, I know that getting oil changes at the dealership is perhaps not the best idea, but they have the cheapest rates around for synthetic. $21.95 for Mobil 1 with a coupon, came to just under $26 with tax/disposal fee etc. The cheapest synthetic change I can get anywhere else locally is at least $20 more. I know the dealer uses the oil change as a loss leader just to get you in, and that's OK, but when the splash shield comes apart as you're driving, no fun.
#220
Apparently not with this dealer! Here's Honda's official position:
Oil & Filter FAQ for Honda Vehicles | Honda Maintenance
This is the first oil change coupon from this dealer that I've seen with Mobil 1. Previous coupons were for synthetic oil (unspecified brand), and they'd advertise a low price, but with a gotcha - that price was for a non-Honda filter. They'd ask at the service desk, do you want a Honda filter for an additional fee?
Oil & Filter FAQ for Honda Vehicles | Honda Maintenance
This is the first oil change coupon from this dealer that I've seen with Mobil 1. Previous coupons were for synthetic oil (unspecified brand), and they'd advertise a low price, but with a gotcha - that price was for a non-Honda filter. They'd ask at the service desk, do you want a Honda filter for an additional fee?