The fuel injector problem was widespread and chronic on 2015 and early 2016 Fits until the new design was introduced. There is no longer a widespread problem with fuel injectors, however it is still an electrical/mechanical part operating under heavy stress and can fail for random reasons in any car. You can get a flat tire, a bad spark plug, a shot fuel pump, or your radio can stop working as well. All of these things have happened to Fit owners here and to owners of other brands of cars as well. It sucks when something breaks but unfortunately it's part of the risk of car ownership.

 

Widespread and chronic? Please provide links and data. This is only on this forum. 2015, no problems.

 

The fuel injectors are an expensive part to begin with and Honda would not have spent the money re-designing them on short notice (not much more than perhaps a year into this cycle). Car makers are tight with money and if the fuel injectors had been considered a minor problem they would have simply replaced the failures by taking the same original part off the parts shelves. This was not a safety problem so no pressure there. The redesign, however, is an admission that they saw a serious reliability problem coming at them and they were preparing for it - and trying to minimize it by getting the new injectors on the production line in 2016.

So you've had no injector problem with your 2015. Good for you, but look up and see that sword hanging over you. But hey, maybe it'll never fall.

 

 

Does or can the new design replace the design that was on the orginal 2015 cars?
If so, what would be required to do it?
Thanks

 

Well, looks as if the redesign of the fuel injectors used on the later generation Fit didn’t really work. Purchased a 2018 Fit Sport 6 speed manual in January of 2019. At 9,000 miles (August 21, 2019) the car developed a miss at idle and all the error lights (check engine, VGA, TPMS and Steering) came on. Took it to the local dealer and after diagnosing the issue I was told the fuel injectors and fuel rail needed replacement. I don’t baby this thing, consistently wind the little beast up as it is like driving a small go kart. Dealer has done all oil changes (1 so far) at 5,000 mile intervals. I do use the lower 87 octane fuel - should I be using the higher octane fuel and would it have really alleviated this problem? Would hate for this to be a reoccurring problem. Of those who have had the injectors and fuel rail replaced, have you experienced any more problems such as this?

 

If the injectors started developing problems at 9K, higher octane fuel wouldn't have helped. Good thing they failed within warranty. If they failed out of warranty, Honda couldn't be counted on to goodwill anything toward repair, and you might be out a couple grand just to get the vehicle on the road again. Search this subforum for details.

 

I think people need to keep reporting these to NHTSA:

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/

Just going through a paint extension warranty on an Odyssey I bought used. Enough complaints came in that Honda extended the warranty on it. If you had paid to get the repair done on your own, they have a form to request a refund of what you paid to fix it on your own dime. They went back several years as my 2013 is covered and I just bought it in March 2019 lol

I don't think any Tier 1 gas or gas treatment is going to fix a faulty injector. If it's faulty, it's just a matter of time before it breaks. If it's good from the factory, you can probably go hundreds of thousands of miles with the same oem injectors on a daily driver.

 

Sorry for your troubles!

Higher octane wouldn't help, but the quality of the fuel matters. Honda, Ford, etc all recommend to only use top tier fuel stations. I know it's a bit of a gimmick, but the OEM's only goal is to avoid warranty claims. So, I stick with top tier period. I also only buy fuel from stations that have their own refinery. Otherwise you are buying whatever is the low bidder option. Racetrac, Bucky's, Murphy USA, Sheetz, Wawa, etc do not have their own refineries so fuel quality will vary greatly from station to station and tank to tank.

That's not to say that injectors should still fail within 9,000 miles. That's really short. Any chance you left a tank in it for over a month at some point? The ethanol in modern fuel becomes stale much faster than pure gasoline. Causes lots of problems for boat and power sport owners.

 

No chance that stale fuel is the issue. We had just returned from a west coast trip the day prior, and besides, the Fit is a daily driver - the very next day is when the error codes showed up. We did use “name brand” gasoline but not the higher octane. Still confuses me that if the check engine light comes on then all the other lights mentioned in the original post would also come on, at least that is what the local Honda dealer is telling me. To me that would indicate faulty logic and pathways in the ECU - would be confusing as to what the real problem is.

 

Dealer can tell very quickly by pulling codes. I'm sure it's injectors as everyone has had the exact same experience and error lights.

It would seem that, in Honda's, the various lights are not just connected to singular items. It seems that Honda has the ECU programmed to turn them all on when there's an event serious enough that they want to get the owners attention and get the vehicle brought in for service.

Smart given how many people I see that drive around for years with a check engine light and never bother to even have codes pulled. Honda probably recognized this and figured they'd throw a whole lot of lights on at once to try and get the owner to do the right thing. There's a LOT of bad car owners out there.

 

I'm lucky to report, that I am one of the few 2015 owners (mexico built) to not experience injectors going bad *knocks on wood*

condolences, to the rest

 

How many miles?

Me too, so far. 38k miles.

 

72,000 miles on my ‘15 so far with no problems.

 

65k. mostly highway miles ... a good mix of flooring the heck out of the thing, and sometimes "hyper mile" type driving. always fill with top tier gas (its hard for me to NOT find top tier in san diego). for a while, ran 91 oct, but for most of its life ran 87 oct. I am ktuned, running the base map.




oil = mobil 1 0w-20 (high mileage formula, not sure if that matters)
filter = purolator pl14610

oci's done at 7500, 10k, and 12500 (uoa's have always been posted in my thread)




fwiw ... I am one of those crazy's who run a catch can

 

Same, I'm at 81K. I do 8500 OCI when MM hits 15% 'cause I hate it popping up every time I start the car. I use typically Quaker State 0W-20 at Walmart since it's the cheapest synthetic. Also typically fill up at Murphy's since it's the closest gas station to the house.

 

If the injectors went at 9000 miles on a car 9 months old that tells me there's a good probability that the injectors were defective from the day they were installed at the factory, not bad enough to trigger any warning lights until the problem got worse with a little driving. Maybe it's just me but there seems to be injector problems being mentioned in connection with 2018 models lately but virtually no mention of problems in 2017 models which would have somewhat higher mileage.

 

My 2015 6 MT is at 46K and counting, so far, so good. One of my customers' CVT has 136K and hasn't noticed anything. Luck of the Irish? Random chance? Who knows. I admit to watching this thread with anticipatory dread..

 

Agreed, injectors that fail in 9 months and at 9,000 miles lead one to suspect that there is an issue with injectors on 2018 models of the Fit. In speaking to the service rep at the local Honda dealer I was beginning to wonder . . . “Have you come in before? Seems that I have heard this story before.” Does Honda know that there is an issue? Undoubtedly! Are they hiding the issue from the public? Definitely! The real question that is in my mind is will there be more of the same problem down the down the road? Honda quality is not what we expected, our previous Hondas were a 86 Civic and an 94 Accord. Don’t remember much about the Civic but the 94 Accord was a daily driver until the Fit was purchased in January this year. The Accord had over 240K on the clock and the only work that was ever done to that car was to replace a starter and then the regular maintenance - oil and filter changes and timing belt changes - no issues. I expected the same from the Fit, now I am concerned.

 

I'm closing in on 90k miles with no injector problems on a 2015.