Lets keep it Alive!!!!
dela, i would do the GC sleeve 8kg/6kg (6.5kg/6kg for more comfort) and ask Fred to weld up an RSB with 22mm diameters in width. IIRC, that's the same diameter as the Progress RSB for the GD. any thicker and it might actually hinder performance since the GE is 210% more rigid than the GD.
that should keep you satisfied till aftermarket shocks are available for the USDM spec GE. if you're going to Fred's place, LMK. i want to see if he can make me a c-pillar bar
that should keep you satisfied till aftermarket shocks are available for the USDM spec GE. if you're going to Fred's place, LMK. i want to see if he can make me a c-pillar bar
Last edited by GD3_Wagoon; Apr 9, 2009 at 07:28 PM. Reason: i gotta get used to calling you dela.. there are 13984761965 davids on VENT now, sheesh
Increasing stiffness in the rear is good, but the super stiff rear will likely just be uncomfortable, especially with OEM shocks. You can't FAKE a rear sway, its night and day. If I were you I would get the existing GC coilover sleeves, and an aftermarket rear sway that is thick. You would handle like a dream, and still have a smoothe ride, without "this BUS is gonna FLIP" feeling. Be around 500-600ish.
dela, i would do the GC sleeve 8kg/6kg (6.5kg/6kg for more comfort) and ask Fred to weld up an RSB with 22mm diameters in width. IIRC, that's the same diameter as the Progress RSB for the GD. any thicker and it might actually hinder performance since the GE is 210% more rigid than the GD.
that should keep you satisfied till aftermarket shocks are available for the USDM spec GE. if you're going to Fred's place, LMK. i want to see if he can make me a c-pillar bar
that should keep you satisfied till aftermarket shocks are available for the USDM spec GE. if you're going to Fred's place, LMK. i want to see if he can make me a c-pillar bar

"The use of anti-roll bars allows designers to reduce roll without making the suspension's springs stiffer in the vertical plane, which allows improved body control with less compromise of ride quality."
if i did care about ride quality, i should think about decreasing my purposed spring rates, taking the fact that the GE chassis is a bit more rigid, as charlie pointed out... but as i am going to increase spring rates altogether the ride quality is going to be compromised anyway... and with no rear sway i might as well stiffen the rear a bit to reduce roll/increase oversteer...
as of right now, my car understeers heavily... im looking for a slight oversteer... and as charlie recently experienced by adding a rear sway with stiff springs, even with f/r ratio of 1.33 (more bias to the front), it oversteers WAY too much...
i know it seems like i have my mind set already.. but this back and forth does help
helps me take everything into account
Last edited by dela; Apr 9, 2009 at 08:34 PM.



i'll see if it's available!
BTW, i'm picking up a Circuit Hero shift lever extender tomorrow after work
.. trading it for my Spoon Duracon shift knob + $20.00we can find out if the guy who built the Award Show banner stand can make something similar if you're interested. if the banner stand only cost $75.00, i'd imagine a machined, 3" shift lever extender would cost no more than $15.00
Where da party at on a friday nite in SB?
dela, i would do the GC sleeve 8kg/6kg (6.5kg/6kg for more comfort) and ask Fred to weld up an RSB with 22mm diameters in width. IIRC, that's the same diameter as the Progress RSB for the GD. any thicker and it might actually hinder performance since the GE is 210% more rigid than the GD.
that should keep you satisfied till aftermarket shocks are available for the USDM spec GE. if you're going to Fred's place, LMK. i want to see if he can make me a c-pillar bar
that should keep you satisfied till aftermarket shocks are available for the USDM spec GE. if you're going to Fred's place, LMK. i want to see if he can make me a c-pillar bar

skid pad tests show: 0.78g for the GE and 0.79g for the GD but you can't base handling on rigidity and skid pad testing alone. one driver, one track, minimum changes in weather, and multiple laps in both cars would be the closest way of determining the better handling Fit
IMO, it doesn't matter. i'm not a pro driver and hardly even an amateur driver. i'll never be able to pull the full potential in the GD's handling unless i had a career change from graphic designer to pro driver
IMO, it doesn't matter. i'm not a pro driver and hardly even an amateur driver. i'll never be able to pull the full potential in the GD's handling unless i had a career change from graphic designer to pro driver

skid pad tests show: 0.78g for the GE and 0.79g for the GD but you can't base handling on rigidity and skid pad testing alone. one driver, one track, minimum changes in weather, and multiple laps in both cars would be the closest way of determining the better handling Fit
IMO, it doesn't matter. i'm not a pro driver and hardly even an amateur driver. i'll never be able to pull the full potential in the GD's handling unless i had a career change from graphic designer to pro driver

IMO, it doesn't matter. i'm not a pro driver and hardly even an amateur driver. i'll never be able to pull the full potential in the GD's handling unless i had a career change from graphic designer to pro driver


(in riverside, a kart track is being used for time attack for cars... some mr2oc guys are doin that a lot)
ya only 20 min. from my place. topanga canyon ftw!
where was this at?? me likey the pics and scenery

























