Hello all, this is my first post on this site.

Just wondering if anyone has heard of hydrogen boost technology or has considered trying it on the Fit.

I've got a friend who installed an electroloyzer (basically a jar full of water & baking soda that produces HHO gas when current is applied..gas is run thru vacuum line into intake) on his Samurai and has seen a large increase in gas mileage and also a small gain in horsepower.

I've put together my own electrolyzer and will try it out on a buddy's 96' Cavalier this week. Of course I'm dreaming about trying this on the Fit, but she's my daily driver and I can't afford to make any fatal mistakes. (Great that my friend volunteered his ride as the guinea pig) Research tells me that I may have to tweak the o2 sensor output to trick the ECU out of overcompensating for a lean air/fuel mix.

Well I hope I've got somebody's interest. I will post any advances I make.
Cheers and happy sipping.

 

my friend wants to do this with his TL. I thought it was too good to be true, but he says its been tried and true. I haven't done any research of it on my own, but i'd love to see someone do it. +1 rep for you for a good idea :P

 

I'd try experimenting on an older car, not a brand new Fit

 

elektromantra-
See what the children on these forums thought of a ready to go kit that includes computer tuning to do this very thing.

https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/eco-...hrough+Mileage

 

Tanstaafl

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Thank you Mr. Vonegut!

 

Hey all, I'm back with an update. Great to hear your responses.

Manxman, I followed the link and found what I'd expected. The technology does sound too good to be true. And more than a few sites are popping up that give the viewer the queasy notion that a scam is in the works. "Run your car with water?" C'mon..

If anyone has their doubts about this tech, there is enough information out there (try YouTube), that anyone with an interest could find plans for a kit that's been tested and which can be assembled by parts one could find in their hardware store.

And with that said...today a ran a lead from the Fit's battery to my electrolyzer, and saw it function for the first time. It was pretty amazing. I didn't measure the current it drew, but I had a 10 amp fuse inline that stayed intact. The moment a complete circuit was made from the battery to the electrolyzer, tiny bubbles of HHO gas appeared.

Next I'll need to find a proper place to route the gas into the Fit. I think I can T into the line coming from the PCV valve, and this will draw the gas into the intake stream. Another option is to install a fitting on the airbox near the throttle body and run a line to it.

Just not sure what the computer would do if I introduced this gas into the combustion chambers. I guess I'll just have to look into it some more....

 

I suggest that you request a quote from the scam ad. In the quote they give you the installation instructions and drawings of all components. I'd send you mine, but I threw them away when it turned out that there were no qualified technicians to reprogram the ECU, which was required in order to obtain a refund if you didn't get the promised results. The tank and other components would work, and as I posted in the thread, this is the exact same technology as yours. The scam comes from the scam sales tactics. The quote and installation instructions are, or were, free. It might help your own design.

 

Are you sure you're going to get more horsepower off it? I think it can be done to a certain extent. Also note that Hydrogen/Oxygen combustion results in a weak explosion. I wouldn't expect to get too much off it.

 

I was interested in something like this, but without an ECU tweak, I wont be doing this to my fit, but I will be trying it on the EF civic I have in the garage, just to see what it will do.

 

I figured that the hydrogen/oxygen AND the gasoline would give a bigger combustion, due to the fact that 'air' doesnt have the broken down components to use the oxygen.

(before I get flamed) I have barely basics in chemistry, but I think i have the right idea.

 

i'd be scared to try that on my car.
unless it was tried and true of course...

 

lmao.. no.. never heard of it

 

Alright I'm no scientist either, but here's how I understand it: The HHO gas mixes with the injected fuel and causes a more rapid, complete burn. Instead of a flame front moving through the cylinder, there is a simultaneous combustion due to a chain reaction caused by the hydrogen/oxygen molecules in the fuel mixture (that's a summary of what I've read the past few nights).

I saw the before and after dyno results from my friend's Samurai, and he did gain an average 4 HP with HHO installed.

One awesome other thing to note is that there is a supreme decrease of nasty NOx and Co in the exhaust. (Our Grandkid's Grandkid's, maybe they won't develop asthma before they learn how to spell it)

As for the Fit, I have plans to do the conversion, but am still wrestling over where the hell I'm going to put it. Maybe somewhere inside the bumper...in front of the radiator...

 

4 hp isn't too too bad
better than nothing!!

i hope you get it done on the fit

 

Hmm... air we breath contains about 70% nitrogen...if we increase the amount of oxygen and add hydrogen...there's less than 70% nitrogen! And the result...

Less NOx and CO exhust! whohoo!! Will it be classified as LEV3?

So you're considering trying this too eh? If I was doing it, I would remove the windshield wiper fluid canister, and replace it with a 9V battery attached to the electrolysis system. And then let the pure hydrogen and oxygen bubble into the air intake box through a syphoning straw/tube.

Another thing I forgot to take in account is that lighter gases do move faster...so why is this so significant??? Answer: It helps the air/fuel mixture mix much faster. So I guess you can say might be a contribution to HP gains also.

I'm starting to see how this can work...still iffy about increased water vapors in the engine and EGR though.