New Clutch Installed. Loud POP! Clutch broken again :(
#1
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New Clutch Installed. Loud POP! Clutch broken again :(
basically i got the clutch back in and it started up fine.. clutch felt nice and engaged well. I started to back out of the driveway and POP! now it feels like it felt when it went out. pedal pressure is fine. master and slave cylinders appear to be fine. plenty of fluid. cv joints are all good. someone at the meet last night said sometimes a spring or bearing will break and thats the pop. any thoughts?
#2
Sux buddy! Just finished doing the job too! Could it have to do with the clutch pedal travel adjustment? It could be that the throwout bearing broke but why? I presume you changed the throwout bearing since I presume you bought a kit.
I suspect something is up with the clutch fork or throwout bearing.
I suspect something is up with the clutch fork or throwout bearing.
#3
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Sux buddy! Just finished doing the job too! Could it have to do with the clutch pedal travel adjustment? It could be that the throwout bearing broke but why? I presume you changed the throwout bearing since I presume you bought a kit.
I suspect something is up with the clutch fork or throwout bearing.
I suspect something is up with the clutch fork or throwout bearing.
#4
This is a guess and only a guess. I have replaced many clutches but never one on a FIT.
Since it popped and failed I am assuming that your failure is something mechanical. I can not imagine that pop was either the pressure plate fingers or the throwout bearing. I'm guessing it is the forked arm that pushes on the throwout bearing.
The slave cylinder pushes on the arm and the arm pivots on a point in the bell housing. I am guessing that the arm slipped off of that rotation point. There is also a little retainer spring on the arm at that point. That spring is suppose to keep the arm in place. I'm guessing that that spring is missing or the arm was not installed correctly.
You probably can get to the arm and put it and the spring back where it belongs without removing the transmission and clutch again.
Again, I have never replaced a FIT clutch before so I am going by my experience on other vehicles with this guess and repair.
Since it popped and failed I am assuming that your failure is something mechanical. I can not imagine that pop was either the pressure plate fingers or the throwout bearing. I'm guessing it is the forked arm that pushes on the throwout bearing.
The slave cylinder pushes on the arm and the arm pivots on a point in the bell housing. I am guessing that the arm slipped off of that rotation point. There is also a little retainer spring on the arm at that point. That spring is suppose to keep the arm in place. I'm guessing that that spring is missing or the arm was not installed correctly.
You probably can get to the arm and put it and the spring back where it belongs without removing the transmission and clutch again.
Again, I have never replaced a FIT clutch before so I am going by my experience on other vehicles with this guess and repair.
#5
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This is a guess and only a guess. I have replaced many clutches but never one on a FIT.
Since it popped and failed I am assuming that your failure is something mechanical. I can not imagine that pop was either the pressure plate fingers or the throwout bearing. I'm guessing it is the forked arm that pushes on the throwout bearing.
The slave cylinder pushes on the arm and the arm pivots on a point in the bell housing. I am guessing that the arm slipped off of that rotation point. There is also a little retainer spring on the arm at that point. That spring is suppose to keep the arm in place. I'm guessing that that spring is missing or the arm was not installed correctly.
You probably can get to the arm and put it and the spring back where it belongs without removing the transmission and clutch again.
Again, I have never replaced a FIT clutch before so I am going by my experience on other vehicles with this guess and repair.
Since it popped and failed I am assuming that your failure is something mechanical. I can not imagine that pop was either the pressure plate fingers or the throwout bearing. I'm guessing it is the forked arm that pushes on the throwout bearing.
The slave cylinder pushes on the arm and the arm pivots on a point in the bell housing. I am guessing that the arm slipped off of that rotation point. There is also a little retainer spring on the arm at that point. That spring is suppose to keep the arm in place. I'm guessing that that spring is missing or the arm was not installed correctly.
You probably can get to the arm and put it and the spring back where it belongs without removing the transmission and clutch again.
Again, I have never replaced a FIT clutch before so I am going by my experience on other vehicles with this guess and repair.
#6
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I GOT IT! maybe...
UPDATE!
okay so in the AM I'm gonna give this a go but i went outside to look under the car and the axle popped out of the transmission which makes me think it was never properly seated and if that is the case mystery solved!
okay so in the AM I'm gonna give this a go but i went outside to look under the car and the axle popped out of the transmission which makes me think it was never properly seated and if that is the case mystery solved!
#7
So in order to do that I would remove the slave and the boot that wedged between the arm and slave and then take the black boot off the exposed part of the fork? How how can i get to that spring without removing the trans? Also it is possible I guess that it fell off the pivot point. But on initial review (right when it happened) the clutch still engaged he master that engages the fork. I'll go take a look in like an hour and report back!
#8
Is anything damaged?
How much of a job will it be to replace it?
#9
Well I guess that is some good and bad news! Hopefully the axle wasn't damaged. I don't think there is anyway you could have reseated the clutch fork without opening the clutch housing (I.e. Removing the transmission). N9CV had a good guess; I thought the same thing except I didn't think that the little dinky retainer clip for the fork would make a loud pop if it became unseated, so I didn't mention it.
Let us know if you got the axle back in. I guess you lost some transmission fluid in the process so don't forget to top it off!
Let us know if you got the axle back in. I guess you lost some transmission fluid in the process so don't forget to top it off!
#10
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Well I guess that is some good and bad news! Hopefully the axle wasn't damaged. I don't think there is anyway you could have reseated the clutch fork without opening the clutch housing (I.e. Removing the transmission). N9CV had a good guess; I thought the same thing except I didn't think that the little dinky retainer clip for the fork would make a loud pop if it became unseated, so I didn't mention it.
Let us know if you got the axle back in. I guess you lost some transmission fluid in the process so don't forget to top it off!
Let us know if you got the axle back in. I guess you lost some transmission fluid in the process so don't forget to top it off!
#11
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ps no trans fluid seems to have been lost. there was no puddle in the am and when i removed the actually trans axle nothing came out. seems fine. Ill check tomorrow when i rotate the tires and that bolt is much more accessible.
ps this is for mt lion and his response was for you sir
ps this is for mt lion and his response was for you sir
#12
Thanks for the update. I dont think its possible to "knock" off the balance of tire unless your removed the tires from the rims and put them back on! I think your allignment is most certainly what is causing your wobble.
Glad to hear that you got the axle back in. Interesting that you heard a click. Is there some kind of retaining clip in there?
Glad to hear that you got the axle back in. Interesting that you heard a click. Is there some kind of retaining clip in there?
#13
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Thanks for the update. I dont think its possible to "knock" off the balance of tire unless your removed the tires from the rims and put them back on! I think your allignment is most certainly what is causing your wobble.
Glad to hear that you got the axle back in. Interesting that you heard a click. Is there some kind of retaining clip in there?
Glad to hear that you got the axle back in. Interesting that you heard a click. Is there some kind of retaining clip in there?
#16
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DAMMMMMMIT! as i was reading that i was totally gonna thats what she said you but you did it first! we popped the ball joint and control arm off tonight and gave it fast slide in. Seems to be ridding smooth no more bumping and jerking.
#17
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its just not installed correctly and the C clips were a bit out of shape so we adjusted them and properly installed them.
#18
Seriously though, I'm amazed that you still have perfect alignment after removing and messing with the axles like that. Even removing and replacing the spindle nut! I'm impressed.
#19
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keep in mind i also removed the entire knuckle and pressed in a new bearing haha
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