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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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i say the cons are

Premium gas
Cost of doing it
and yes weight but with the power and a stiff spring rate you should be fine
 
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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another thing, mileage won't be as good. but, if you're dumping 5k into a motor swap into a nearly new car, i guess mileage isn't a concern, lol.
 
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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SInce you have to go K-kro anyways it's more like 190-200Whp. the K20's respond very well to just a tune.....a K24from an accord/CRV will put you around the 165Whp mark with gobs of torque and power everywere on regular gas.
 
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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another thing, mileage won't be as good. but, if you're dumping 5k into a motor swap into a nearly new car, i guess mileage isn't a concern, lol.
how do you figure miles wont be as good? my friend had a right hand drive hatch with a turbo k20a
he got 38mpg all the time. Also had another friend with a k20a3 built head and k24 bottom end. he avg. around 32. cool thing about his setup is he had it on a 125 shot.

i know you can piece together a kswap for under 5k.
 

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:44 PM
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how do you figure miles wont be as good? my friend had a right hand drive hatch with a turbo k20a
he got 38mpg all the time.
I find that VERY hard to believe, considering a stock k20a won't get near that.
 
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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I find that VERY hard to believe, considering a stock k20a won't get near that.

it all depends on the driver and if they have a heavy foot or not.


i will show you this link once honda tech goes up from this place where you can find pretty cheap motors and tranny's


http://blogs.hondatuningmagazine.com...ght/index.html
 

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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some good parts for sale on

k20a.org
 
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by redrumm
i say the cons are

Premium gas
Cost of doing it
and yes weight but with the power and a stiff spring rate you should be fine
What spring rate is good for K20A?
I will put a coil over after the swap..since the tein spring is not gonna make it.

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some good parts for sale on

k20a.org
Thanks!
 
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by chimmike
I find that VERY hard to believe, considering a stock k20a won't get near that.
Depends on driver + tune. There's a k-swapped insight out there getting 40+ mpg.

edit: link: http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9205
 
Old Oct 24, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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there again, I still find that hard to believe, unless they're running higher than 15:1 afr's and 10mph, virtually no load, everywhere they go. The motor just isn't physically that efficient, I just don't think it's physically possible. Those cylinders require more fuel than that at idle!
 
Old Oct 25, 2008 | 08:50 AM
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What spring rate is good for K20A?
I will put a coil over after the swap..since the tein spring is not gonna make it.

Thanks!

im sure skunk2 is fine. you would need something with damping.
 
Old Nov 11, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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I hate reading these kind of threads because there is so much misinformation. The cost isn't bad if you know where to look. The swap is definitely one of the more difficult swaps considering what needs to be done to fit to get it done. If you have the money, GO FOR IT. The l15 will never come close to what a K can do.

Throw the weight distribution off? Hardly. If you're running the suspension to handle the power the car is going to make, you aren't going to really notice a difference in handling.

I'm not far from having everything I need to get my swap started. Just waiting on some headwork, mounts, ecu, and cams. Other than that I'm pretty much good to go. 260 whp is probably what I'll be making on the street. I can easily make more that that, but 260 all motor is already going to have traction issues. We will see what happens. It's still going to be awhile. I'm in no rush to rip out the new motor since it only has 20k on it now. Soon enough
 
Old Nov 16, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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how much does the k24 weight vs the k20?
 
Old Nov 16, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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It isn't a big difference at all in weight. The main difference is the block height, which makes it a slightly bigger pain fitment-wise then the k20.
 
Old Nov 17, 2008 | 12:18 AM
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so im thinking ill do a k24 swap then.
 
Old Nov 20, 2008 | 01:50 AM
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just a suggestion, lose the a/c unit when doing the swap. there is maybe 50lbs cut. lightwieght battery, a little more wieght shaving. any other creative ways to shave lbs.? also, if your doing a k-swap, figure in an upgraded breaking system (stainless lines/high end calipers/pads/rotor/fluid). do not cheap out on breaking! im also guessing the wieght bias can be overcome. If it could not, you wouldnt see k-swaps in circuit race cars. race teams dont do things because its cool, they do things to make a car achieve the lowest lap times possible.
 
Old Nov 20, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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For those running K-series swaps in their fits, what suspension set ups did you end up using? I contacted A&J racing about the J's racing k-fit and they said they were using DC5-R suspension components.
 
Old Nov 21, 2008 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Tetsugen
For those running K-series swaps in their fits, what suspension set ups did you end up using? I contacted A&J racing about the J's racing k-fit and they said they were using DC5-R suspension components.
This doesn't suprise me. I can see the front not being too much of a problem. The rear is where the problem lies. We are thinking about fabbing something up for mine though, so if we figure something out, I will definitely post pics.
 
Old Nov 24, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fibinochi
just a suggestion, lose the a/c unit when doing the swap. there is maybe 50lbs cut. lightwieght battery, a little more wieght shaving. any other creative ways to shave lbs.? also, if your doing a k-swap, figure in an upgraded breaking system (stainless lines/high end calipers/pads/rotor/fluid). do not cheap out on breaking! im also guessing the wieght bias can be overcome. If it could not, you wouldnt see k-swaps in circuit race cars. race teams dont do things because its cool, they do things to make a car achieve the lowest lap times possible.
Unless someone's done it before, but I think you already do lose your A/C lines when you do the K swap.
 
Old Nov 26, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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Unless someone's done it before, but I think you already do lose your A/C lines when you do the K swap.
Yeah, you have to be right...that makes sense with the limited space.
 



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