hks TURBO for AUto
#21
03-14-2009, 11:53 AM
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the TURBO AT is faster...but not FAST like 1wayfit's HKS with MT.....
we've raced side by side and he can ditch me .....
..that proves AT is NO where near the MT with turbo....
good thing about AT is that when shifting...boost doesn't drop as much as shifting MT....no matter how fast u are shifting.....the drop on boost is always less on AT....i can keep it on boost from 1st gear all the way to 4th gear.....for some reason...5th gear..i can't boost as high? ??? may be the gearing on the tranny is much different.
and Yes i live 5min away from AJR....i still have to get my computer return to run properly
we've raced side by side and he can ditch me .....
..that proves AT is NO where near the MT with turbo....good thing about AT is that when shifting...boost doesn't drop as much as shifting MT....no matter how fast u are shifting.....the drop on boost is always less on AT....i can keep it on boost from 1st gear all the way to 4th gear.....for some reason...5th gear..i can't boost as high? ??? may be the gearing on the tranny is much different.
and Yes i live 5min away from AJR....i still have to get my computer return to run properly
But yes, AT cars can hold boost with no problems through gears. Thats why most/all turbo track cars are auto.
#22
03-16-2009, 08:07 AM
I thought about this also. When Josh told me his oil return was his drain plug I thought that was the stupidest thing they could have did.
From what Josh said, the kit creates some kind of crank case vacuum. I didnt get this? Turbo cars create crank pressure, not vacuum.
I just figured when the cars running the oil in the pan is slung around.
From what Josh said, the kit creates some kind of crank case vacuum. I didnt get this? Turbo cars create crank pressure, not vacuum.
I just figured when the cars running the oil in the pan is slung around.
but by this theory, to create the pressure in order to evacuate the turbo drain line, you would have to be in boost right before you turn your car off or else you will have excess build up in the drain line. but if your in boost before shut off, it will probably kill the turbo quick.
eh..im not a fan of it ,i wouldnt trust it
Last edited by NIGHTHAWKSI; 03-16-2009 at 08:09 AM.
#23
03-16-2009, 08:10 AM
theres a huge difference between auto and a dsg/dual clutch tranny.
#24
03-16-2009, 12:47 PM
ah...ok. in the directions is does have the cracnkcase vent(that normally leads into the intake) rereouted and attached to the turbo oil drain. i guess the crankcase vent is supposed to create the pressure to push the oil out
but by this theory, to create the pressure in order to evacuate the turbo drain line, you would have to be in boost right before you turn your car off or else you will have excess build up in the drain line. but if your in boost before shut off, it will probably kill the turbo quick.
eh..im not a fan of it ,i wouldnt trust it
but by this theory, to create the pressure in order to evacuate the turbo drain line, you would have to be in boost right before you turn your car off or else you will have excess build up in the drain line. but if your in boost before shut off, it will probably kill the turbo quick.
eh..im not a fan of it ,i wouldnt trust it
WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH!
You did WHAT?
THE OIL DRAIN RELIES ON GRAVITY.
DO NOT HOOK IT UP TO YOUR CRANKCASE VENT!
what would possibly make you think that was a good idea?
don't run it that way! Hook the oil drain up to the drain in the oil pan, and the feed to a pressurized, filtered source. That's it. Physics takes care of the rest!!
EDIT: Reread your post, and you must be misinterpreting the directions.
#25
03-16-2009, 12:56 PM
WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH!
You did WHAT?
THE OIL DRAIN RELIES ON GRAVITY.
DO NOT HOOK IT UP TO YOUR CRANKCASE VENT!
what would possibly make you think that was a good idea?
don't run it that way! Hook the oil drain up to the drain in the oil pan, and the feed to a pressurized, filtered source. That's it. Physics takes care of the rest!!
EDIT: Reread your post, and you must be misinterpreting the directions.
You did WHAT?
THE OIL DRAIN RELIES ON GRAVITY.
DO NOT HOOK IT UP TO YOUR CRANKCASE VENT!
what would possibly make you think that was a good idea?
don't run it that way! Hook the oil drain up to the drain in the oil pan, and the feed to a pressurized, filtered source. That's it. Physics takes care of the rest!!
EDIT: Reread your post, and you must be misinterpreting the directions.
the hks kit has a hardpipe oil drain. one end connects to the turbo, another to a banjo fitting that replaces the oil pan drain plug, and in that line it has a tee off of it that connects to the crankcase vent (rerouted from the intake). lol....very weird design and does not seem reliable to me. i definatly read the direcions correctly...and its a failed design to me. i assume hks was trying to use the pressure from the crankcase vent to push the oil out of the turbo drain??
#26
03-16-2009, 02:18 PM
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Did I state there wasnt a difference?
#27
03-16-2009, 02:42 PM
^ no..but you stated that most track cars have auto trans...id need examples of this. ive never seen anyone want a slushbox tranny over a manual when racing.
#29
06-02-2009, 03:14 AM
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the above link is HKS Bolt On Turbo Kit 4 auto 1.5 GD3...the maximum u can reach is 200hp...on assumption tat u fix a Type S intercooler, upgraded injectors n fuel pump, replace spark plugs, cat converter, HKS mid-pipe n muffler, retune of F-Con IS...all these while the engine internals remain stock
the above link is HKS Bolt On Turbo Kit 4 auto 1.5 GD3...the maximum u can reach is 200hp...on assumption tat u fix a Type S intercooler, upgraded injectors n fuel pump, replace spark plugs, cat converter, HKS mid-pipe n muffler, retune of F-Con IS...all these while the engine internals remain stock
Last edited by mugen boi; 06-02-2009 at 11:01 AM.
#33
06-04-2009, 10:28 PM
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Hi, good post. I have been woondering about this issue,so thanks for posting. I’ll definitely be coming back to your site.
#34
06-05-2009, 04:52 AM
sorry...do not really understand what you are trying to say...i'm residing in Singapore & driving a 07 MMT/CVT 7 Speed GD3...installed HKS Stage 3 Bolt On Turbo Kit meant for auto...the link below will show you 3 types of packages for Honda Fit...2 of them is a full package (Stage 3) for both auto & manual and the other is just a basic package (Stage 1)
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minimum @ around 0.3bar or kgm/cm2...it makes about 155ps...maximum @ around 0.55bar or kgm/cm2...makes about 180ps...the most is around 200ps
and of cause...not cutting or joining or messing around with the wirings...basically plug and play
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and of cause...not cutting or joining or messing around with the wirings...basically plug and play
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#38
06-05-2009, 07:40 PM
i think it should be able to work even though i never seen any difference in the kit between manual and auto but most probably they will tune it slightly different from manual as auto and CVT won't be able to handle so much horsepower as compare to manual
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