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Old 04-13-2010, 11:15 PM
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Transmission swap question

I just outfitted my A/T Fit with a turbo kit. The A/T absolutely cannot handle even the slightest increase in power and is very hard to tune, due to the constant torque converter adjustments.

I really want to swap my A/T out for a 5-speed and change the clutch. You guys know exactly what I'll need for the procedure? I can get a used tranny for ~700$, but I dont know what else I'll need. any suggestions would help!

So far....
stock: 81 hp - 78 ft-lb
after dyno (tranny slipping): 114 hp - 114 ft-lb@3.5psi

I think manual will yield allot more power....PLEASE HELP!!!
 
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Old 04-13-2010, 11:47 PM
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you need the the tranny, pedal assy and the slave cylinder and hard lines for the fluid
 
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Old 04-14-2010, 12:42 AM
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That's all??
I'm glad I posted this when I did...Honda told me I needed a new ECU for the M/T and all the accessories plus the tranny. Is the slave cylinder sold apart from the M/T, or is it the master cylinder?
 
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Old 04-14-2010, 12:45 AM
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you might need a ecu not sure slave cylinder comes with the tranny.
 
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Old 04-14-2010, 12:47 AM
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You'll need all that and listed about PLUS the M/T ECU..... if you search somewhere in my "F.S. L15 motor" thread I remember someone posting a response that they had one for sale. check it out.
 
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Old 04-14-2010, 09:32 PM
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Anyone know if I need to change my wire harness (behind dashboard)?
 
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Old 04-15-2010, 12:50 AM
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quick question.. i know people on here running 6+ psi with a t1r turbo kit, that claims to make 135 whp with an AT at 4.5 psi..

how come your tranny is slipping?

ive heard of people having problems with the cvt all the time.. but no one has had any problems so far (at least to my knowledge) with the U.S. AT. (sport paddle shift)
 
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Old 04-15-2010, 03:01 AM
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No clue......

Don't know what turbo they're using on the T1R kit......mine is a little different, but I still have no clue as to why my trans is taking a dump
 
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Old 04-15-2010, 01:01 PM
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I think it might be my driveshaft...
I hear and feel a "cruching" noise when power is applied liberally in all gears, especially when I turn Left! I noticed the A/T is still right on all the gears and smooth when shifting...any suggestions as to what it might be
 
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Old 04-15-2010, 02:09 PM
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probably is your driveshaft, mine is making that noise too, get it fixed soon tho or else its gonna mess up your tranny

Originally Posted by k-alt
I think it might be my driveshaft...
I hear and feel a "cruching" noise when power is applied liberally in all gears, especially when I turn Left! I noticed the A/T is still right on all the gears and smooth when shifting...any suggestions as to what it might be
 
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Old 04-15-2010, 02:16 PM
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Shit!

Which one....left, right, I know there are a few on the A/T
Should I just go for the Left assembly since the sound and feeling is originating from that side of the car?
 
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Old 04-15-2010, 02:42 PM
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when you say drive shaft are you referring to axles?

If so, I'd say do both. Pull them form a junk yard though. Dealership is $700+ for each side.

I got mine (M/T) for $150 each
 
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Old 04-15-2010, 02:51 PM
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I don't know the answer but one thought did cross my mind. Would it be cheaper to take the turbo off, sell the car (or trade) and get a Fit with manual?
 
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Old 04-15-2010, 03:13 PM
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^^ x2. trade you fit in for an mt. save you in the long run.
 
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Old 04-15-2010, 06:58 PM
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junkyards dont have it in the bay area, no aftermarket parts for my ge, so only choice is hook up from a dealer. As for me, it was on my right passenger side.
 
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Old 01-28-2011, 06:03 AM
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i want to swap my manual transmission for an automatic, if someone has a honda fit 2009 and wants to trade contact me, i'm in orange county california
 
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Old 02-10-2011, 11:52 PM
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As far as all the auto to manual swaps i have done, you need:

Transmission
Shift Linkage
Shift Cables
Shifter Box
Transmission side engine mount
Axles
Manual ECU
clutch
flywheel
manual brake pedal assembly
clutch pedal assembly (usually need to make a custom bracket in cowl)
clutch master cylinder (need to make a template and be perfect for firewall drilling)
clutch slave cylinder
clutch hydraulic lines

Don't forget the small things that always hang you up, like pedal assembly pins and retainers, and shift linkage washers and pins for the trans and the shifter box, retainer clips for the linkage on the shifter box, etc. The parts do not come with these things when ordering from honda.

And you need to figure out how to start the car without the automatic. Usually this involves wiring to make the bcm think the car is always in park, as well as find out a way to bypass security with the new ECU. Maybe honda can program your current set of keys in the new ECU?

Just some food for thought, it is a time and part intensive swap. We usually charge about 10 hours for the most common auto to manual swaps, and parts can become pricey.
 

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Originally Posted by k-alt
I think manual will yield allot more power....PLEASE HELP!!!
it will also yield alot more money !!

Originally Posted by k20a298ek
you need the the tranny, pedal assy and the slave cylinder and hard lines for the fluid
that's only 10% of the parts u need .......

Originally Posted by k-alt
That's all??
I'm glad I posted this when I did...Honda told me I needed a new ECU for the M/T and all the accessories plus the tranny. Is the slave cylinder sold apart from the M/T, or is it the master cylinder?
no thats not all, PM me ur email address i'll send u a complete Excel file with part number and prices on ALL the parts u need for AT/MT swap.
if i remember correctly..it was about $4000usd to do the swap without labour and Stealer ship pricing.

Originally Posted by k-alt
Anyone know if I need to change my wire harness (behind dashboard)?
Yes

Originally Posted by keepitpg
quick question.. i know people on here running 6+ psi with a t1r turbo kit, that claims to make 135 whp with an AT at 4.5 psi..

how come your tranny is slipping?

ive heard of people having problems with the cvt all the time.. but no one has had any problems so far (at least to my knowledge) with the U.S. AT. (sport paddle shift)
no one has problems with CVT here in USA because USDM FIT don't have CVT technology

and T1R "Claim" u can make 135whp....n CLAIM is the key word, for all we know they only showd a dyno graph...during the test, they could be using NOS but we dunno.....but ALL i know is that my t1r turbo kit didn't make 135whp on the dyno

Originally Posted by whaap
I don't know the answer but one thought did cross my mind. Would it be cheaper to take the turbo off, sell the car (or trade) and get a Fit with manual?
YES trade the car for a MT.
 
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