GD3 build 2.4
#22
10-13-2012, 09:47 PM
New Updates
Sorry for the long time it took to update but Ive been a little busy with this thing here.
#23
10-13-2012, 10:30 PM
In other news
On the left you have your base 04 rsx 5 speed non LSD
On the right you have the new M factory LSD
Transmission case looking pretty clean for a 04
this is the magnet plug, friend said it was really clean for an 8 yr old tranny
Needed new shims but other than that friend said syncros and gears good
finally ready to be put back together
NEXT STEP IS TYPE-S OIL PUMP MODIFICATION AND INSTALL
AND TYPE-S OIL COOLER WITH TYPE-S WATER HOUSING W/PUMP
On the right you have the new M factory LSD
Transmission case looking pretty clean for a 04
this is the magnet plug, friend said it was really clean for an 8 yr old tranny
Needed new shims but other than that friend said syncros and gears good
finally ready to be put back together
NEXT STEP IS TYPE-S OIL PUMP MODIFICATION AND INSTALL
AND TYPE-S OIL COOLER WITH TYPE-S WATER HOUSING W/PUMP
#28
10-14-2012, 08:17 PM
Not yet, i still have to finish the type s oil pump and water housing units before i start putting it together. even after the motor is done i will still be waiting for the harness from hasport for not sure how much longer. Its not the typical dual harness that everyone else is running. The Type R in the grey fit is hella boss. it got me thinking to also build the white fit NA. But having the Type R motor is enough for me thats why i chose 5 speed because im going to boost the k24. its a daily driver and i have always wanted a car with boost.
#29
10-14-2012, 08:24 PM
It really does depended on how you go about it. what i think really matters is what motor you decide to go with. Even going with the k24a4 short block im still spending money left and right. I have not added it all up but i i know im near the 5k mark just on the motor alone. what also helped me a lot is friends that did some work and me doing the rest. so far i have only depended on hasport as an outside source for labor and thats the harness to run everything properly. ill post up final cost when i am done with everything.
#30
10-17-2012, 07:30 PM
Started Oil Pump and Oil Cooler up grades.
I have a K24a4 block, follow the link below for specific install guide, torque, timing, honda bond application for best results. I copied and pasted the link to make sure it works.
Hybrid Racing – K20/K24 Hybrid Engine Build
1. remove valve cover, and oil pan, crank pulley (need air gun dont recommend using ratchet you will go through a couple with this method), last remove timing chain cover. should be self explanatory no need for great detail.
2. next remove k24 oil pump
fit k20a2 oil pump and mark where it needs to be grinded down. Its going to take a couple test fittings in order to make sure you have grinded down the pump properly for it to sit flush
needs more grinding
This was my final product.
Remove the oil squirter and plug it up with a screw that fits just a little bit bigger than the plug hole with some honda bond.
plug that up with one of these full of honda bond
then install the k20a2 baffle
intall the k20a2 pump and it should sit flush like this
Removing the tensioner might cause the timing to be off so the following ensued....
1. Set crank to TDC the two triangles should line up
2. Next match up the marking on the timing chain on the crank. Honda really made this easy for us. it depends on the chain but my chain has black links to mark what your looking for and where it should go. It might be a bit hard to notice but there is a dot next to the link marked on the sprocket.
3. Now set the cams. with the two hash marks facing each other at 3 o'clock on the exhaust side and 9 o'clock on the intake side. the two punch marks should be at the top and the last two black links should be matched up with those punch marks as in my following picture
A closer look
In order to set the chain it becomes apparent that another helping hand is necessary because the cam gears are not exactly in sync as they are under different tensions. the use of a ratchet and correct socket will help in setting the cams in place. while the other person holds the cams in place you should have place the chain in the correct position and then install the tensioner making sure that the cams dont shift before proper tension is applied.
As soon as the k20a2 water housing unit and the correct hoses for the k20a2 oil cooler arrive ill have another update. hope this helps others.
Hybrid Racing – K20/K24 Hybrid Engine Build
1. remove valve cover, and oil pan, crank pulley (need air gun dont recommend using ratchet you will go through a couple with this method), last remove timing chain cover. should be self explanatory no need for great detail.
2. next remove k24 oil pump
fit k20a2 oil pump and mark where it needs to be grinded down. Its going to take a couple test fittings in order to make sure you have grinded down the pump properly for it to sit flush
needs more grinding
This was my final product.
Remove the oil squirter and plug it up with a screw that fits just a little bit bigger than the plug hole with some honda bond.
plug that up with one of these full of honda bond
then install the k20a2 baffle
intall the k20a2 pump and it should sit flush like this
Removing the tensioner might cause the timing to be off so the following ensued....
1. Set crank to TDC the two triangles should line up
2. Next match up the marking on the timing chain on the crank. Honda really made this easy for us. it depends on the chain but my chain has black links to mark what your looking for and where it should go. It might be a bit hard to notice but there is a dot next to the link marked on the sprocket.
3. Now set the cams. with the two hash marks facing each other at 3 o'clock on the exhaust side and 9 o'clock on the intake side. the two punch marks should be at the top and the last two black links should be matched up with those punch marks as in my following picture
A closer look
In order to set the chain it becomes apparent that another helping hand is necessary because the cam gears are not exactly in sync as they are under different tensions. the use of a ratchet and correct socket will help in setting the cams in place. while the other person holds the cams in place you should have place the chain in the correct position and then install the tensioner making sure that the cams dont shift before proper tension is applied.
As soon as the k20a2 water housing unit and the correct hoses for the k20a2 oil cooler arrive ill have another update. hope this helps others.
Last edited by superfatfit; 10-17-2012 at 10:20 PM. Reason: update
#31
10-17-2012, 08:14 PM
Hi man, looks excellent. You clearly know what you are doing.
Can you explain why the oil pump modification is desirable or necessary? I just do not understand what you are doing there and I am curious.
Clearly you are doing this for the challenge and to have something unique; I think if it were me I would be likely to spend the same amount of money and just buy an 04 RSX-S :P ... but of course then we'd be deprived of your engine porn pictures.
Can you explain why the oil pump modification is desirable or necessary? I just do not understand what you are doing there and I am curious.
Clearly you are doing this for the challenge and to have something unique; I think if it were me I would be likely to spend the same amount of money and just buy an 04 RSX-S :P ... but of course then we'd be deprived of your engine porn pictures.
#32
10-17-2012, 09:37 PM
Hi man, looks excellent. You clearly know what you are doing.
Can you explain why the oil pump modification is desirable or necessary? I just do not understand what you are doing there and I am curious.
Clearly you are doing this for the challenge and to have something unique; I think if it were me I would be likely to spend the same amount of money and just buy an 04 RSX-S :P ... but of course then we'd be deprived of your engine porn pictures.
Can you explain why the oil pump modification is desirable or necessary? I just do not understand what you are doing there and I am curious.
Clearly you are doing this for the challenge and to have something unique; I think if it were me I would be likely to spend the same amount of money and just buy an 04 RSX-S :P ... but of course then we'd be deprived of your engine porn pictures.
Well.... I actually dont know what I am doing per say, I just happen to not mind opening a book to read about specs and look through countless forums like k20a or the build thread on fitfreak where others have done it already. From every different DIY thread or build I have gone through I learn something new that i should or should not do. When I have gained enough info i attempt to do it myself and a trusty honda mechanic friend of mine thats actually very reputable in the honda/race world chimes in and helps a great deal.
Why the upgrades, well its a bit lengthy to write about but here is a link if you dont mind reading for about 15 minutes plus they have great pictures to go with the upgrade. by the way I just used this as a guide for knowledge i didnt do the actual modifications they make.
Oil System Upgrades Final Connection Photo 13
In short the a2 pump will cavitate at higher rpms than i need since i want to boost my motor thats the reason why i choose the upgrade. I want to keep the motor well lubed.
Lastly... in my head there is no replacement for displacement, that being said if i wanted a high revving daily driver I would have never bought the k20a powered grey fit i own now and built a type s motor instead.
thanks for checking out my thread if you have any other question I can help with don't hesitate to ask.
#33
10-30-2012, 05:40 AM
New Updates
As of 10/29/212
As previously stated here is the conclusion of the A2 oil cooler and water pump install.
Parts needed:
A2 oil cooler, A2 oil feed lines (2), clamps (4), A2 water pump, S2000 inlet (pictured with the hoses)
you need these parts because the k24a4 block does not come prepared for such upgrades. for instance, the water pump on the A4 does not have the inlet for the oil line which is the longest oil line in the picture running along the chain cover. another issue is the s2000 part that is used, on the A2 motor this is already machined into the block and is stock from the factory. it doesnt look anything like the s2000 part and is facing towards the vehicle cabin and goes in the place of the nut that is removed in one of the pictures below. It is actually very easy to tell exactly what needs to be done from the pictures. here you go.
A2 water pump (this will get wire brushed and honda bonded as well as a nice primer and coat of cast aluminum engine enamel paint for those hot temperatures)
A2 oil cooler
A2 oil cooler adapter on the left, notice the length difference.
A2 hoses and s2000 inlet
A2 oil cooler installed
Remove plug (10mm allen i think cant remember)
install the s2000 inlet apply some honda bond on it. then add your oil lines and it should look like this. also installed in this picture is the A2 crank pulley.
A2 pulley vs. A4 pully notice the size difference
any questions feel free to ask and i will try my best to answer them.
As previously stated here is the conclusion of the A2 oil cooler and water pump install.
Parts needed:
A2 oil cooler, A2 oil feed lines (2), clamps (4), A2 water pump, S2000 inlet (pictured with the hoses)
you need these parts because the k24a4 block does not come prepared for such upgrades. for instance, the water pump on the A4 does not have the inlet for the oil line which is the longest oil line in the picture running along the chain cover. another issue is the s2000 part that is used, on the A2 motor this is already machined into the block and is stock from the factory. it doesnt look anything like the s2000 part and is facing towards the vehicle cabin and goes in the place of the nut that is removed in one of the pictures below. It is actually very easy to tell exactly what needs to be done from the pictures. here you go.
A2 water pump (this will get wire brushed and honda bonded as well as a nice primer and coat of cast aluminum engine enamel paint for those hot temperatures)
A2 oil cooler
A2 oil cooler adapter on the left, notice the length difference.
A2 hoses and s2000 inlet
A2 oil cooler installed
Remove plug (10mm allen i think cant remember)
install the s2000 inlet apply some honda bond on it. then add your oil lines and it should look like this. also installed in this picture is the A2 crank pulley.
A2 pulley vs. A4 pully notice the size difference
any questions feel free to ask and i will try my best to answer them.
#34
11-02-2012, 03:01 AM
while i wait for more parts
Before.....
In progress......
All done and pretty
Parts used:
1. Dupli color cast aluminum engine paint and primer
2. HVT black wrinkle finish high temp paint
3. Air wire brush and sand paper bits for those hard to get to spots
4. painters masking tape
5. simple green to clean the tranny
6. acetone to remove any grease or oil left behind after simple green and wire brushing
In progress......
All done and pretty
Parts used:
1. Dupli color cast aluminum engine paint and primer
2. HVT black wrinkle finish high temp paint
3. Air wire brush and sand paper bits for those hard to get to spots
4. painters masking tape
5. simple green to clean the tranny
6. acetone to remove any grease or oil left behind after simple green and wire brushing
