Full bumper replacement. Would you prefer the sport fog lights integrated into the bumper? Or no fog light at all? I am leaning towards no fogl light, because I do not want the designer trying to create something around a foglight.

Also, we are going to delete the tow hook access. I don't know if I have EVER seen anyone use this. Probably used more in Europe?

Thanks for the input.

 

I would say design the foglights into the bumper. They will only add to the design, not take away.

 

Not always the case. You limit that part of the bumper, because you HAVE to use the lights. It definately limits us from doing alot of things. I was thinking that people that want the fog lights, can just get the lip kit.

There are people that do not have the sport version. We would be forcing them to buy foglights from the dealer.... There is positives and negatives when integrating fog lights.

From my experience anyway.

 

I would say keep the fog lights in the lower lip, I personally wouldn't want them integrated into the bumper, but I wouldn't want to eliminate them either.

 

which market segment do you think the bulk of the purchases would come from though? Sport owners or base owners?

 

I'm not sure. That's why i am here!

I have just had bad experiences in the past when including fog light integration.

I much rather have a very nice looking bumper and a carbon fiber splitter. I am afraid fog lights might make non sport owners shy away from the kit as well.

Nothing is set in stone, that's why I posted this. To hear your opinions.

If you read this, give input! It matters, and i am listening. Thanks!

 

well there's 2 possible ways of looking at it:

1) Sport owners will make up the main market segment since they it seems they have more money to put towards and into their cars.

2) Base owners will make up the main market segment since they have simple cars and would like something to dress it up with.

But in any case it would be best to not integrate the fogs because you could potentially cut out 1/2 the market right? Besides I'm sure a smart Sport owner might find a way to integrate them with some shaving and cutting...or just sell them to the base owners!

:P

 

What we might do is have a hard line on the underside of the bumper, foe those to cut and install their existing fog light if they choose to do that. However, that still means we would have to design AROUND the light once again.

Not sure if I want to do this. I don't want the style of the bumper to suffer because of the damn light. hehe.

 

That's a tough decision, and probably the reason I am not trying to make a living doing your job.

If you really want a super-clean look, forget the lights, but then you might be alienating a portion of your potential market. You are going to need some openings in the lower portion for airflow, right? Why not design some ducting for brake-cooling in the lower corners that could also be a place for installing the lights, should one be so inclined?

 

no fogs please...but have the design be able to withstand the adding of fog lights. The designer should be able to take it into account during the design phase so that it is not awkward looking if they are added by the user.

 

The first time someone has to have their Fit winched onto a flatbed, due to an accident or a mechanical breakdown (nevah!), they'll be hating you for blocking off that tie down point. You may want to reconsider your position on that item.

 

I prefer the look of fog lights.

 

I would like to retain the use of my existing foglights. Even if you guys decide not to use the factory foglights, you should still include some sort of foglights in the bumper, bigger, smaller, round, whatever, as long as there are foggies.

 

. I am concidering getting kyaks which may need to be tied at the front end of the car.... Its the place to pull for a tow if needed. We should just get use to it is my opinion. Of course if you make it custom you do what you want... That is what custom is all about...

 

Personnaly I wouldn't even consider it if it didn't have either one, the fog lights or ability to intigrate them, since it gets real foggy here at times. And the hook access since I have been known to go places that a FIT would end up getting stuck. Plus if I have to be towed I want it on a rolloff as opposed to 2 wheels lifted off the ground and the other bumper getting damaged during the tow.